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Old 17th Jun 2020, 16:36
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 16:44
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Originally Posted by dead_pan View Post
How much of the Voyager is British made as opposed to, err, European made? Its all well and good getting the Reds to do our bidding around the globe in the Hawk, but what happens if someone asks? Could be interesting if Airbus consider their position in the UK post-Covid and sans a trade deal...

I reckon they should re-paint the BBMF Lanc, show the world who's boss and all that.
About half. Wings made in North Wales/Chester, RR Engines made in Derby. Probably a few other bits and pieces too.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 16:45
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Hmm, 101 posts on this rather mundane subject. Must be a very quite no-news day.

I'd caution against putting BJ on the fin though. When in the day job a few years ago I was tasked in looking for a support ship with certain special features. The only ones I knew of were from a US company called BJ Services (absolutely true!) However, when I Googled on just the initials (1) I found out that, contrary to old Abe's assertion, all men are not created equal, and (2) our head of cyber security was a really decent chap at my interview without coffee.

Finally, if you want to save the alleged 900k for the paint job, why not ask all those nice protester people in London or wherever. They sem to be dab hands with spray cans.


Apologies: I am joking and rather bored after all this time in my little cell/world.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 16:45
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Why not get all the British airlines bid for the
privilege of transporting our VIPS (&Royals), or
let them take train, taxi if more appropriate.
When I lived in Holland the was a government
aircraft which was rented out to private companies
when not needed.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 17:22
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Voyager looks good photo shopped in Air Support Command livery.

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Old 17th Jun 2020, 17:25
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Originally Posted by Video Mixdown View Post
What's the problem - do you think red or blue paint is more expensive than grey? It's got to have paint on it, and military aircraft often get custom paint schemes. Do you complain about those too?
The government long ago decided we shouldn't have a VIP flight. Voyager was bought to be part for the AT/Refuelling task. Then one of these very precious commodities was slightly repurposed into the VIP role by removing half the seats and refitting the AC with custom made executive seating.... But that was OK said the powers that be, because the AC would still be useable as a tanker (and indeed it has been on Ops) but now it is going to be repainted red, white and blue. What use will that be on Ops? Instead, it is now an easy to spot flying target, and has deprived the tanker fleet of an AC at a time when there is more pressure on our assets.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 17:27
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Bandwagon Alert
The Thomas Cook aircraft would need to be resprayed in any case if a conflict occurred.
Thomas Cook A330 is now defunct.
The Voyager is a crap aircraft compared to the KC10 - no Upper Deck Cargo Door so you can use it for errrrr....Cargo in times of need - like now instead of Stoddy having to do it!
Air Tanker are a private operation contracted by the MoD. They can have their aircraft sprayed Sky Blue with Pink Spots for all I care.
Certain tinge of remoaner on this web-site....


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Old 17th Jun 2020, 17:35
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Does it really cost nearly 1m to repaint the top half of an A300 Ir is there more being done.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 17:36
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and has deprived the tanker fleet of an AC at a time when there is more pressure on our assets.
And has deprived the Defence budget of c. 1m to satisfy the PM's vanity [or dislike of grey, to be pedantic].

MPN11, pied-off Tory.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 17:43
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Not sure it's anything to do with remoaners really. Is spending nearly a million quid on some paint to tart up a bunch of military planes the best thing Johnson can come up with to distract the masses from his catastrophic premiership? This seems to appeal solely to those who would go out and "defend" statues of less desirable historical figures.

Remember the outrage from the populace over Blair Force One etc?
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 17:48
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Yup - thought so. And which branch of Aviation are you in?
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 17:55
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The aircraft has been on checks at Cambridge.
it was probably due a repaint on completion anyway. I doubt painting it other than grey overall will cost an additional 0.9 million. I suspect someone with an agenda is agitating the fertiliser !!!
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 17:57
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Originally Posted by Diesel_10 View Post
Bandwagon Alert
The Thomas Cook aircraft would need to be resprayed in any case if a conflict occurred.
Thomas Cook A330 is now defunct.
The Voyager is a crap aircraft compared to the KC10 - no Upper Deck Cargo Door so you can use it for errrrr....Cargo in times of need - like now instead of Stoddy having to do it!
Air Tanker are a private operation contracted by the MoD. They can have their aircraft sprayed Sky Blue with Pink Spots for all I care.
Certain tinge of remoaner on this web-site....


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Why do you keep mentioning Brexit, and why do you keep talking utter nonsense?

And yes, Im in a branch of Aviation.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 18:05
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Even the French a/c has got their `Flag` on the fuselage wrong ....
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 18:10
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Or something like this..








Something like this

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Old 17th Jun 2020, 18:37
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Boris Farce One

Hmm.... Never having been a fan of the dull grey colour but acceding to the policy of tone-down colouring for ‘camouflage’ reasons, I groan seeing the Voyager /Boris paint-job story.
As if he hasn’t spent enough of my tax money in the last couple of months and I would have thought that this would never have got past the Government bean-counters. “Just add it on to the Covid-19 s billions we now owe.” I suppose.
They should have thought of this when they obtained the aircraft but I suppose Marshall’s will do well out of it and keep a few more employed for a short while... I wonder what garish mixture of red, white and blue BJ will come up with. Hope it doesn’t look as scruffy as his haircut.
I suppose he could ask Nigel Farage for a suitable slogan to paint down the side.

“ BJ’s Brexit ExpressMade by Airbus (in the EU)”


Cynic that I am, ......but I bet it will look very nice.

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Old 17th Jun 2020, 18:46
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I've never understood the British reluctance to having a proper VIP aircraft for the Head of Govt/Head of State.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 19:03
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The aircraft has been on checks at Cambridge.
it was probably due a repaint on completion anyway. I doubt painting it other than grey overall will cost an additional 0.9 million. I suspect someone with an agenda is agitating the fertiliser !!!
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 19:12
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Have some respect for our country, get the thing painted. We have just bankrupt ourselves with furlough. A few quid no big deal
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 19:15
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Well my problem is that it’s either going to look

a) like any other red white and blue a/c e.g. the French, the Canadians

b) s***.

I did like the 2012 Hawk. But that would look ludicrous on an A330.
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