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Anyone want a Victor bomber, FREE to a good home

Old 8th Feb 2020, 09:46
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There might be another (Flyable... ) one available soon.
Numerous rumour posts swirling around Facebook that Bruntingthorpe is being given over completely to car storage and all airframes to be 'removed'...
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Old 8th Feb 2020, 09:49
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Marham [yeah it was alright it's lovely Norfolk] anecdotal tale

Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav View Post
I think individually most of the airmen and women (and matelots) on parade seem to pass muster pretty well. It is just that no attempt to dress by height has been made, and I cant work out why some of the girls are wearing white belts. Can't imagine HM was impressed. Pleased to see the RAF station sign (a blue bull) visible just above the royal car in the photo.

That is just opposite SHQ (or at least where SHQ used to be). Last time I was there was when I handed in my final clearance card on my last day of service in December 1976. More than half a lifetime ago
Last time [?] her Maj came to RAF Marham all we CMU contractor "tramps" were told in no uncertain terms we were not to be visible. This was a bit of a shame as the last time I said hello to her ## I had an armful of SLR as she presented yet another Sqdn standard to the RAFs premier AD outfit...

Anyway. We were "all" out the back of 4 shed tabing [filthy habit but it was crowd syndrome] and past rolls the motorcade on it's regal way when one of the permies [who trust me looked like an aged catweazle] did the unthinkable and WAVED. Word from the front was she gave a small wave back, but nothing like the word we got later along the lines of "if you lot ever do something like that again"...of course no one gave the smart arse reply...


## figuratively speaking of course.
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Old 8th Feb 2020, 13:39
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Shabby. Now that's a good word!
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Old 8th Feb 2020, 17:39
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my last day of service in December 1976. More than half a lifetime ago
Snap!! 31.12.76.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 09:13
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Originally Posted by Nige321 View Post
There might be another (Flyable... ) one available soon.
Numerous rumour posts swirling around Facebook that Bruntingthorpe is being given over completely to car storage and all airframes to be 'removed'...
The old Q sheds from Leuchars were given to Bruntingthorpe. They had to go rapidly before they became listed buildings which would have prevented work for the new Typhoon seat bay. Would they become similarly listed after relocation to Bruntingthorpe, or is the assessment location-dependent?
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 09:17
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Originally Posted by spitfirek5054 View Post
Thought uniform meant uniform,well it did from 1972-1984 when I was an airman.
We take pride in the actions of the RAF during the second world war, yet the photographs of the era show a force dishevelled by any recent standard. I'd rather the efforts of the force we have goes into delivering the capabilities we are here for, rather than delivering some superficial perfection which detracts form the fighting force.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 18:39
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Originally Posted by spekesoftly View Post
Whatever happened to "Tallest on the right, shortest on the left" ?
I thought that Apartheight has been abolished.....
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 20:22
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I thought that Apartheight has been abolished.....
Clever..very clever.
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Old 11th Sep 2020, 07:43
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Last chance to see for the lucky few before the inevitable. Reminds me of crawling round the Woodford B2 XH670 as a boy.

Before the disposal process begins we would like to give the opportunity for a small number of people to come and see her for the last time on Saturday 10th October. Due to the COVID-19 restrictions the number that we are able to allow onto the station will be limited and there will be time slots allocated for viewings followed by a short visit to our Aviation Heritage Centre.
https://www.raf.mod.uk/our-organisat...gate-guardian/

I have a recollection that in the '80s around the time Valley had its corporate wrist slapped for having the temerity to have a Gnat and Hunter on the gate, USAF airbases were ordered to have collections of historic aircraft. Which I suppose sums up a different attitude to preserving artifacts relateed to recent history. Here the short termism of the bean counters rules.

Can't see the UK ever having anything like this:

Community Static Display Program

The museum's Collection Management Division oversees the Air Force Community Static Display Program for static display aerospace vehicles on loan to municipal corporations, counties, political subdivision of a State, servicemen's monument associations, a post of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States or of the American Legion or a unit of any other recognized war veterans’ association, a local or national unit of any war veterans’ association of a foreign nation which is recognized by the national government of that nation (or by the government of one of the principal political subdivisions of that nation), post of the Sons of Veterans Reserves. This program is governed by Title 10 USC, Section 2572. For more information on the application process, see the attached information sheet and then contact [email protected].

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Old 11th Sep 2020, 09:57
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Originally Posted by Mil-26Man View Post
Silly question I'm sure, but beyond the occasional lick of paint what maintenance does a gate guardian actually need?
I was an officer at an ATC squadron that had a Vampire and there was a whole Air Publication devoted to the care and maintenance of gate guardians.
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Old 11th Sep 2020, 11:48
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It looks like the Victor will be scrapped

https://www.raf.mod.uk/our-organisat...gate-guardian/
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Old 11th Sep 2020, 19:08
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Originally Posted by drustsonoferp View Post
The old Q sheds from Leuchars were given to Bruntingthorpe. They had to go rapidly before they became listed buildings which would have prevented work for the new Typhoon seat bay. Would they become similarly listed after relocation to Bruntingthorpe, or is the assessment location-dependent?
The LPG Q Sheds came from Wattisham...
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Old 12th Sep 2020, 19:59
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I do like the idea that the gate guardian was the aircraft with the best remaining fatigue life. Hilarious. Good organisation there, someone!
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Old 12th Sep 2020, 20:55
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Originally Posted by wub View Post
I was an officer at an ATC squadron that had a Vampire and there was a whole Air Publication devoted to the care and maintenance of gate guardians.
Was the ATC squadron somewhere on the south coast, possibly Hastings? I remember driving past a Vampire on the way from Dover to Portsmouth in the mid seventies.
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Old 13th Sep 2020, 09:22
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The Cornish Aviation Society looked after St. Mawgan’s Shackleton WL795 and kept it in good order for fifteen or more years until the powers that be decided it had to be sold. Such a shame a modest enthusiastic team could not have done similar with the Victor. Ah well, someone somewhere will say this is the price of progress.
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Old 13th Sep 2020, 14:42
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Originally Posted by Non Emmett View Post
The Cornish Aviation Society looked after St. Mawgans Shackleton WL795 and kept it in good order for fifteen or more years until the powers that be decided it had to be sold. Such a shame a modest enthusiastic team could not have done similar with the Victor. Ah well, someone somewhere will say this is the price of progress.
The last remaining Beverley presently at Fort Paull east of Hull is likely to be scrapped (as was the example at the RAF Museum) unless a buyer can be found.
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Old 13th Sep 2020, 15:30
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Originally Posted by chevvron View Post
The last remaining Beverley presently at Fort Paull east of Hull is likely to be scrapped (as was the example at the RAF Museum) unless a buyer can be found.
Its already been taken apart and moved twice now since....and the rumour is, its probably not going to survive a 3rd go at taking it apart and putting it back together....or rather the putting it back together bit might be a 3rd time too many.
Everyone also forgets about the Bev that was at Southend as well, the ex-A&AEE XB261, had been there since flown in there in 1971, and was scrapped there the same year that the one at Hendon was scrapped.
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Old 14th Sep 2020, 05:49
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I did my last five years at Marham so I'll be sad to see her go but I guess it's inevitable really as I expect she's in a right state internally. It makes you wonder what some of the other large aircraft preserved outside are like, Waddington Vulcan?

Further afield I would hope the VC10 and C130 C3 at Cosford will survive a while longer being fairly recently retired but I expect they will eventually go a similar way? Likewise the Vulcans at various civvy sites up and down the country.
Although I have a soft spot for the Bev it was a fairly small fleet, operated a long time ago and is not well known by the public, it's also flipping big, all of which don't work for it sadly. No disrespect intended- I'd love to see it survive but I can't see it somehow.

At least a couple of Victor's have long term futures, the Duxford K1 (?) looked to be undergoing some pretty serious maintenance work when I visited last year

Hopefully parts of the Marham Victor will survive.
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Old 16th Sep 2020, 18:35
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and yet the RAF Museum gives space to a B-17 and a P-51 in USAAF colours, and sundry Luftwaffe types, while Duxford's collection includes more American aircraft. Surely the Beverley deserves a place under cover?
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Old 16th Sep 2020, 19:09
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Originally Posted by Jackonicko View Post
and yet the RAF Museum gives space to a B-17 and a P-51 in USAAF colours, and sundry Luftwaffe types, while Duxford's collection includes more American aircraft. Surely the Beverley deserves a place under cover?
The problem is finding a museum 'indoors' capable of housing a Bev...?

But, yes, its always annoyed me that RAFM couldn't be arsed or were too lazy to repaint the P-51D into a RAF Mustang IV scheme, and likewise the B-17G into a Bomber or Coastal Command Fortress III.
(unless it was part of the condition of getting them?)
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