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UK orders Boeing E7...

Old 22nd May 2020, 21:28
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Originally Posted by Jackonicko View Post
What is the MADG?
Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group.

Aren't you supposed to be an Aerospace and Defence journo?

I do find the change odd after the initial announcement of the E-7 purchase said that the 5 aircraft would be converted from baseline commercial 737 to E-7 by Marshall Aerospace. Surely they would only announce that if there was a contractual commitment?
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Old 22nd May 2020, 21:38
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Flight - Wedgetail conversion work was commercially unviable says Marshall
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Old 22nd May 2020, 22:17
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Yeah, but it's not an acronym I use, nor one that the company uses,

And at 2020 on a Friday night, I have limited comprehension, memory and sobriety
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Old 22nd May 2020, 22:21
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As evidenced by mixing up the year and time of your post. Another single malt Sir?
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Old 23rd May 2020, 07:43
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Thanks for the link. They‘ve not done themselves any favours at all, have they. Boeing remember these things. The P8 extended fuel tanks are made by Marshall; will that continue? Within the industry, MADG is getting a reputation for being risk averse. They have had plans for Special Mission aircraft integration but won’t Prime anything as they’re a family company. I understand that but if they want to break out into that area, and the E7 leant itself to that, then they need to take risks or to reconfigure the business to make it less risky. Otherwise they’ll remain as metal bashers.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 08:52
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Pretty sure that Boeing will do nothing about the P-8 fuel tank production, why would they pay someone else to design, engineer, fabricate, test, certify and set up a production line when they have already done this with Marshall Aerospace? Boeing are not exactly sat on a huge cash pile right now!
And as for "...getting a reputation for being risk averse..." you can only know that if you are in the mind of each and every company that has negotiated deals with Marshall recently, and that is quite a large number of companies if you look at their recent contract wins and awards. Isn't being risk averse what you want from a company? It only exists to turn a profit after all, that's the whole point of a company. If they couldn't reach a price with Boeing that meant they turned a profit, what is point of the contract? As to their future, look at what they do, they are hardly 'metal bashers" now.

Other companies like MADG are also available!

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Old 23rd May 2020, 14:42
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Isn't being risk averse what you want from a company?
No, not if that company has aspirations, badgers you to work with them and then says ‘oh, we won’t Prime, can you do it, or find someone?’.

As you say, others are available and, more usefully, keen to do the work.
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Old 24th May 2020, 01:01
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Probably a good move on the part of Marshalls. I wonder if they see being a prime for Boeing as being sub-optimal right now.
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