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A Jaguar was a fast jet................. 
Stilton......the early model B-52 Stratofortress (not necessarily fast or pretty but still hoofing it all these decades later) also started life with a canopy design that made it look very similar to the B-47.
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I stand corrected.
My display jet was totally clean apart from the outboard pylons, which marginally improved directional stability, which the jet started to run out of at high alpha.
My display jet was totally clean apart from the outboard pylons, which marginally improved directional stability, which the jet started to run out of at high alpha.
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Considering the Jag was originally a trainer design I always thought its ability to go supersonic wasn't bad.
There were rumours about a VC10 achieved it, even a spitfire came close.
There were rumours about a VC10 achieved it, even a spitfire came close.
The VC10 has gone supersonic, though in error. Crossing the Pond at speed with the Flt Eng off the flt deck, then passing thro a front resulted sometimes in a big change in temperature which resulted in s big speed jump. Though the mach warning horn would have sounded, unless of course a naughty man had pulled the cb.
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I did a supersonic dive in the back of a Jag off Gib once
The spitfire was a Mk 19 in a dive off Hong Kong with a Flt Lt Powell at the controls.
The spitfire was a Mk 19 in a dive off Hong Kong with a Flt Lt Powell at the controls.
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I did a supersonic dive in the back of a Jag off Gib once
The spitfire was a Mk 19 in a dive off Hong Kong with a Flt Lt Powles at the controls.
it was PS854 and recorded 0.96 Mach or 715mph in a dive from over 51,500 ft and no that isn't a typo!
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The spitfire was a Mk 19 in a dive off Hong Kong with a Flt Lt Powles at the controls.
it was PS854 and recorded 0.96 Mach or 715mph in a dive from over 51,500 ft and no that isn't a typo!
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Considering the Jag was originally a trainer design I always thought its ability to go supersonic wasn't bad.
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Oh really? That could only happen if someone was trying to maintain a constant TAS and failed to notice a change in OAT of around -57 deg C! Frankly I smell BS, I'm afraid! Try doing the IMN / IAS / OAT calcs, mate! What I suspect happened was that no-one was monitoring the IAS and the change in OAT across a front increased engine thrust, which caused the aircraft to accelerate, tripping the high speed warning horns...and probably the odd surge or few!
During Full Air Tests, I was authorised to take the VC10K2/3/4 up to (IIRC) M0.925. The airflow noise and buffeting, as well as the nose down pitch change at high IMN and the general handling, indicated to me that anything faster would have been very risky. The VC10 C Mk1 was cleaner, but even so I very much doubt that any RAF pilot ever went supersonic in a VC10!
The VC10 has gone supersonic, though in error. Crossing the Pond at speed with the Flt Eng off the flt deck, then passing thro a front resulted sometimes in a big change in temperature which resulted in s big speed jump. Though the mach warning horn would have sounded, unless of course a naughty man had pulled the cb.
During Full Air Tests, I was authorised to take the VC10K2/3/4 up to (IIRC) M0.925. The airflow noise and buffeting, as well as the nose down pitch change at high IMN and the general handling, indicated to me that anything faster would have been very risky. The VC10 C Mk1 was cleaner, but even so I very much doubt that any RAF pilot ever went supersonic in a VC10!
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S / Ldr St**n 14 Sqn took me up to do aeros, nice experience as was flying in a Fuga.. incidentally we put some Jags up for the border opening if i remember correctly, but we were not there so to speak at the time, it was flag waving come hands off sort of detachment.... caused a few in RAFG and the UK to nearly have heart failure when they saw the impromptu flight on the news, good detachment, bar nearly stuffing the seven three into the rock trying to land in out of limits crosswinds, apparently the crash was sounded as they thought we were history. Night on the Algarve and back the next day, followed by several days of walking around smelling like I had been on the piss all day and getting pulled up more than once because of it due to the muppets smashing the litre of spirits in my bag that was on top of all my uniforms.
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Olster, you have lost me, I was replying to PN's comment about flying in the Jag and pointing out that we all came very close to not surviving at all, closest to death I have ever come too, we nearly lost most of the Sqn.