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‘Fast jets’
Curious as to how this term came into use,I believe it’s only used in the UK to describe fighter / strike aircraft Most jets are reasonably fast so how did aircraft in this class end up with this description? |
Nice try, now go and have a lie down.
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I had a Belvedere unhelpfully refer to himself as a “twin turboprop” on the RT. ;) I guess he was also a slow-jet! |
Or ME when many FJ had two engines and RW also, but ME was neither FJ or RW.
In initial pilot training however the Jet Stream was ME in contrast to the Hawk which was FJ. On graduating your pilot was either FJ, ME, or RW trained. In other words the origin was the training system and not the operational type. |
Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
(Post 10342708)
Or ME when many FJ had two engines and RW also, but ME was neither FJ or RW.
In initial pilot training however the Jet Stream was ME in contrast to the Hawk which was FJ. On graduating your pilot was either FJ, ME, or RW trained. In other words the origin was the training system and not the operational type. Understand, Thanks for the informative reply, now it makes sense |
The Mk I Victor was certainly a "fast jet" once it got going, with many examples of it exceeding Mach one. However during its takeoff run and climb it was most definitely a "slow jet"!
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Originally Posted by stilton
(Post 10342625)
Most jets are reasonably fast so how did aircraft in this class end up with this description? |
Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav
(Post 10342768)
The Mk I Victor was certainly a "fast jet" once it got going, with many examples of it exceeding Mach one. However during its takeoff run and climb it was most definitely a "slow jet"!
I’m just finishing ‘Victor Boys’ I’m even more impressed with that amazing aircraft now, as you say it was very fast Cruising at .85 initially at FL470 in the MK 2 Quite something and easily the best looking bomber until the B1 came along |
Quite something and easily the best looking bomber until the B1 came along My vote would have to be for the Boeing B-47 when it comes to "beauty". https://www.cloud9photography.us/Mil...ry/i-RVWBMXR/A |
Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 10342870)
Er Jet Provost?
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If I recall BFT (or do I mean EFT?) was on the JP and were then streamed/chopped after aptitude was determined, going by the famous TV series of the early 80's of course (so I admit I could be wrong), Was the reason made to move away from the JP purely based upon age/maintainability of the a/c etc?
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Originally Posted by flash8
(Post 10343050)
If I recall BFT (or do I mean EFT?) was on the JP and were then streamed/chopped after aptitude was determined, going by the famous TV series of the early 80's of course (so I admit I could be wrong), Was the reason made to move away from the JP purely based upon age/maintainability of the a/c etc?
Garbled It should have been your last point - age and maintainability. |
I always thought that 'fast jet' was used for comms security. I remember when I was flying cross-country in UAS Chipmunks, we were told we must use the term 'single piston' when talking to ATC.
I bet that fooled the Russian 'trawlers'! :E |
Stilton-
Quite something and easily the best looking bomber until the B1 came along Oh well , must be time for another G & T . |
I42_ you were not alone. We were a 4-jet rather than a Vulcan. At the time the RAF had only 4 types of 4-Jet.
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Basic trainer that enabled FJ/ME streaming. |
so incidentally does poo ;):O:}
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Originally Posted by SASless
(Post 10342920)
My vote would have to be for the Boeing B-47 when it comes to "beauty".
https://www.cloud9photography.us/Mil...ry/i-RVWBMXR/A The B47 was a great looking aircraft, it’s cockpit canopy must surely be the largest ever made ! |
One of the very fast jets was the VC10!
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Originally Posted by sharpend
(Post 10343587)
One of the very fast jets was the VC10!
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