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Old 28th Dec 2018, 22:18
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
S / Ldr St**n 14 Sqn took me up to do aeros, nice experience as was flying in a Fuga.. incidentally we put some Jags up for the border opening if i remember correctly, but we were not there so to speak at the time, it was flag waving come hands off sort of detachment.... caused a few in RAFG and the UK to nearly have heart failure when they saw the impromptu flight on the news, good detachment, bar nearly stuffing the seven three into the rock trying to land in out of limits crosswinds, apparently the crash was sounded as they thought we were history. Night on the Algarve and back the next day, followed by several days of walking around smelling like I had been on the piss all day and getting pulled up more than once because of it due to the muppets smashing the litre of spirits in my bag that was on top of all my uniforms.
Forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by Fuga?

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Old 28th Dec 2018, 22:57
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I guess he means the Fouga Magister as it was still in service with some air forces at the time in question. In fact the Belgians only retired them in 2007!

Intrigued that they went to the Algarve and back though - it's quite a long way from Gib. Or perhaps he meant Algeciras?
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Intrigued that they went to the Algarve and back though - it's quite a long way from Gib. Or perhaps he meant Algeciras?
While the border with Spain was closed the preferred alternate for Gib was Faro.
It was thought that the welcome from the immediate neighbors would be less that cordial, as indeed it was found to be on the odd occasion!
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 02:23
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Yes, Faro, so we had to stay in Vilamoura on the Algarve, Fuga was a private jet G-FUGA



It was thought that the welcome from the immediate neighbors would be less that cordial, as indeed it was found to be on the odd occasion!
yep had a Jag divert in from Deci on way to Gib, lots of politics involved and only cleared once fixed back to Deci, took off out to sea. quick left hander and landed in Gib
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 08:26
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Maybe the Jag, possibly a Domine. Diverted into one of the Balearics. Naturally someone told Madrid but the Airport Manager or similar realised the implications and potentially Charlie Foxtrot and organised a quick turnround. The bird had flown by the time Madrid ordered it be impounded.
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 12:26
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Originally Posted by BEagle
sharpend wroteThe VC10 C Mk1 was cleaner, but even so I very much doubt that any RAF pilot ever went supersonic in a VC10!
In 6 years on it I Never heard anyone mention a VC 10, standard or super, going supersonic or even reaching M 1 indicated Anyway, on the 10 the Mach meter overread, . 84 indicated ( BOAC/BA cruise speed) was actually . 825 true, not much faster than the .8 true on a 767 and slower than the jumbo at .85.

A Victor 1 yes, been there, done that, but even then an indicated M 1 was probably not Mach 1 TRUE.

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