UK unveils new next generation fighter jet, the 'Tempest'
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I wonder if they’ll reveal the secrets to Radar 2 - where it is, how much has it cost, when it will be fitted fleet wide, how does it compare to APG-79 and 81...for example?
Seems to me that one can justify a degree of cynicism wrt Tempest sensors given ‘the Typhoon story so far’.
Seems to me that one can justify a degree of cynicism wrt Tempest sensors given ‘the Typhoon story so far’.
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https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...e-this-summer/
British ‘Team Tempest’ is itching to enter new fighter design phase this summer
LONDON – Britain’s effort to develop a sixth-generation combat jet is on track, with the concept and assessment phase of the program expected to be signed off by industry and government imminently, according to officials involved in the discussions.
An announcement by the Ministry of Defence on a contract starting the next phase of work on the British-led Tempest future combat air program is expected in the next few weeks, said a BAE Systems spokesman.
“We are making good progress on the route to the concept and assessment phase, with the shared aim of launching the next phase of an international program to jointly develop and deliver world-leading future combat air capability. We expect to agree the concept and assessment phase contract in the summer,” the spokesman said.
The spokesman wouldn’t be drawn on an exact date but with Parliament due to go into summer recess in July that could potentially trigger a contract announcement ahead of that.
A deal for the concept and assessment phase marks the first proper step to the launch of a full-fledged 6th-generation combat jet program by the British and their international partners.…..
British ‘Team Tempest’ is itching to enter new fighter design phase this summer
LONDON – Britain’s effort to develop a sixth-generation combat jet is on track, with the concept and assessment phase of the program expected to be signed off by industry and government imminently, according to officials involved in the discussions.
An announcement by the Ministry of Defence on a contract starting the next phase of work on the British-led Tempest future combat air program is expected in the next few weeks, said a BAE Systems spokesman.
“We are making good progress on the route to the concept and assessment phase, with the shared aim of launching the next phase of an international program to jointly develop and deliver world-leading future combat air capability. We expect to agree the concept and assessment phase contract in the summer,” the spokesman said.
The spokesman wouldn’t be drawn on an exact date but with Parliament due to go into summer recess in July that could potentially trigger a contract announcement ahead of that.
A deal for the concept and assessment phase marks the first proper step to the launch of a full-fledged 6th-generation combat jet program by the British and their international partners.…..
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Britain inks $200 million contract with Team Tempest for future fighter jet
WASHINGTON — The British Defence Ministry has signed a Ł250 million (U.S. $199 million) deal with Team Tempest, a group of companies working on the country’s future combat jet, to provide digital and physical infrastructure to develop the aircraft.
The ministry said the latest contract is part of the government’s investment of more than Ł2 billion on the project, which will be spread out over the next four years.
With the contract signed between the government and BAE Systems — one of the four founding members of Team Tempest that also includes Leonardo UK, Rolls-Royce and MBDA UK — the Future Combat Air System program has entered its concept and assessment phase.*
Defence Secretary Ben Wallace made the announcement Thursday at BAE Systems’ Warton facility, calling the deal a “multimillion-pound investment that draws on the knowledge and skills of our U.K. industry experts.”
“Boosting our already world-leading air industry, the contract will sustain thousands of jobs across the U.K. and will ensure that the U.K. remains at the top table when it comes to combat air,” he said.
The government’s lead for future combat air capabilities, Richard Berthon, called the FCAS effort “hugely important in ensuring the U.K. and its partners have the skills and technology we need to give us the battle-winning edge for the future.”
“Developing the system allows us to drive a revolution in digital development and harness the power of open-systems architecture,” Berthon added.
Italy and Sweden are also involved with the sixth-generation fighter jet program, having signed a memorandum of understanding with the U.K. in 2020, with plans to share the workload on developing the aircraft. Leonardo CEO Alessandro Profumo said Thursday that the Tempest project will serve as “a game changer” for British and Italian technological innovation.
And earlier this month, Wallace met with his Japanese counterpart, Nobuo Kishi, in Tokyo where they agreed to accelerate bilateral discussions on developing subsystems for the program, including for power and propulsion.
* CADMID Cycle. This phase should include Main Gate.
https://www.overtdefense.com/2020/05...n-the-process/
Britain inks $200 million contract with Team Tempest for future fighter jet
WASHINGTON — The British Defence Ministry has signed a Ł250 million (U.S. $199 million) deal with Team Tempest, a group of companies working on the country’s future combat jet, to provide digital and physical infrastructure to develop the aircraft.
The ministry said the latest contract is part of the government’s investment of more than Ł2 billion on the project, which will be spread out over the next four years.
With the contract signed between the government and BAE Systems — one of the four founding members of Team Tempest that also includes Leonardo UK, Rolls-Royce and MBDA UK — the Future Combat Air System program has entered its concept and assessment phase.*
Defence Secretary Ben Wallace made the announcement Thursday at BAE Systems’ Warton facility, calling the deal a “multimillion-pound investment that draws on the knowledge and skills of our U.K. industry experts.”
“Boosting our already world-leading air industry, the contract will sustain thousands of jobs across the U.K. and will ensure that the U.K. remains at the top table when it comes to combat air,” he said.
The government’s lead for future combat air capabilities, Richard Berthon, called the FCAS effort “hugely important in ensuring the U.K. and its partners have the skills and technology we need to give us the battle-winning edge for the future.”
“Developing the system allows us to drive a revolution in digital development and harness the power of open-systems architecture,” Berthon added.
Italy and Sweden are also involved with the sixth-generation fighter jet program, having signed a memorandum of understanding with the U.K. in 2020, with plans to share the workload on developing the aircraft. Leonardo CEO Alessandro Profumo said Thursday that the Tempest project will serve as “a game changer” for British and Italian technological innovation.
And earlier this month, Wallace met with his Japanese counterpart, Nobuo Kishi, in Tokyo where they agreed to accelerate bilateral discussions on developing subsystems for the program, including for power and propulsion.
* CADMID Cycle. This phase should include Main Gate.
https://www.overtdefense.com/2020/05...n-the-process/
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Italy commits cash from their defence budget to the programme.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...h-for-tempest/
Italy hikes 2021 defense spending, finds cash for Tempest
ROME – Italy has hiked defense spending with a new budget that includes the first 20 million euro Italian funding for the Tempest fighter.….
The part of the budget devoted to procurement stood at four billion euros, ($4.7bn) up a massive 44 percent on the previous year.…
The ministry said it was ring-fencing seven key strategic procurement programs including the Tempest fighter program, in which Italy is teamed with the UK and Sweden.
Hitherto, the defense ministry has failed to launch funding for the program, despite warning that Italian industry would risk missing out on choice early workshare.
This year, the money has begun to flow, with 20 million ($24m) euros due in 2021 and the same amount in 2022 and 2023 according to the budget.
Over the following three years, 90 million euros ($106m) would be freed up in total, while 1.85 billion euros ($2.2bn) would be budgeted between 2027 and 2035, for a total investment of 2 billion euros ($2.4) between now and 2035……
https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...h-for-tempest/
Italy hikes 2021 defense spending, finds cash for Tempest
ROME – Italy has hiked defense spending with a new budget that includes the first 20 million euro Italian funding for the Tempest fighter.….
The part of the budget devoted to procurement stood at four billion euros, ($4.7bn) up a massive 44 percent on the previous year.…
The ministry said it was ring-fencing seven key strategic procurement programs including the Tempest fighter program, in which Italy is teamed with the UK and Sweden.
Hitherto, the defense ministry has failed to launch funding for the program, despite warning that Italian industry would risk missing out on choice early workshare.
This year, the money has begun to flow, with 20 million ($24m) euros due in 2021 and the same amount in 2022 and 2023 according to the budget.
Over the following three years, 90 million euros ($106m) would be freed up in total, while 1.85 billion euros ($2.2bn) would be budgeted between 2027 and 2035, for a total investment of 2 billion euros ($2.4) between now and 2035……
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Leonardo fine-tunes its 757 jetliner converted into a Tempest test rig
ROME – Leonardo has announced more details of the 757 test bed aircraft it will use in the Tempest program, including a 28 ton payload for equipment and six locations for sensors.
Dubbed Excalibur, the aircraft has been remodeled with a pointed nose to mimic the likely Tempest design by Leonardo’s partner, UK firm 2Excel…….

Leonardo fine-tunes its 757 jetliner converted into a Tempest test rig
ROME – Leonardo has announced more details of the 757 test bed aircraft it will use in the Tempest program, including a 28 ton payload for equipment and six locations for sensors.
Dubbed Excalibur, the aircraft has been remodeled with a pointed nose to mimic the likely Tempest design by Leonardo’s partner, UK firm 2Excel…….


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Makes you wonder why there is not a case therefore for just converting the airliner with some longer range missiles and using a (largely female of course) rear crew of analysts.
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Interesting point is that, unlike it’s US and Chinese counterparts, it doesn’t have a roof mounted wing shaped “canard” to reflect that of the Tempest.
Which would seem to suggest that 360 degree wing mounted distributed radar/EW sensors/modules requiring testing and integration with the radar aren’t a factor.
Unless, of course, there will be another test bed or it is just omitted from the artists impression….


Which would seem to suggest that 360 degree wing mounted distributed radar/EW sensors/modules requiring testing and integration with the radar aren’t a factor.
Unless, of course, there will be another test bed or it is just omitted from the artists impression….


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Leonardo fine-tunes its 757 jetliner converted into a Tempest test rig
ROME – Leonardo has announced more details of the 757 test bed aircraft it will use in the Tempest program, including a 28 ton payload for equipment and six locations for sensors.
Dubbed Excalibur, the aircraft has been remodeled with a pointed nose to mimic the likely Tempest design by Leonardo’s partner, UK firm 2Excel…….

Leonardo fine-tunes its 757 jetliner converted into a Tempest test rig
ROME – Leonardo has announced more details of the 757 test bed aircraft it will use in the Tempest program, including a 28 ton payload for equipment and six locations for sensors.
Dubbed Excalibur, the aircraft has been remodeled with a pointed nose to mimic the likely Tempest design by Leonardo’s partner, UK firm 2Excel…….




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Interesting point is that, unlike it’s US and Chinese counterparts, it doesn’t have a roof mounted wing shaped “canard” to reflect that of the Tempest.
Which would seem to suggest that 360 degree wing mounted distributed radar/EW sensors/modules requiring testing and integration with the radar aren’t a factor.
Unless, of course, there will be another test bed or it is just omitted from the artists impression….


Which would seem to suggest that 360 degree wing mounted distributed radar/EW sensors/modules requiring testing and integration with the radar aren’t a factor.
Unless, of course, there will be another test bed or it is just omitted from the artists impression….




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Looking like the UK and Japan may merge programmes, makes me laugh when they call it an exclusive as Chopper2004 posted a link to it in May!
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Further thoughts by readers under this article.
https://japantoday.com/category/poli...rammes-sources
https://japantoday.com/category/poli...rammes-sources
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Further explanation here https://informamarkets.turtl.co/stor...ue-1/page/17/1
basically industry has have joint projects in order to afford them.
basically industry has have joint projects in order to afford them.

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Further thoughts by readers under this article.
https://japantoday.com/category/poli...rammes-sources
https://japantoday.com/category/poli...rammes-sources
And BAE claim Tempest first flight in the next 5 years.
Looks like things are moving at pace along with Japanese involvement.
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Interesting latest iteration if the design - looks far more like the proposed fighter-bomber version of the YF-23 than anything else - and obvious a long range interceptor in the mould of the F-3 than a short range dog fighter.

That, of course, is what the Japanese want for the longer ranges in the Pacific.
It was also interesting hearing the BAE FCAS MD be quizzed at Farnborough by Sky News concerning rumours of Australia joining the programme - and evading the question rather than denying it.
Proposed FB-23 fighter-bomber..


That, of course, is what the Japanese want for the longer ranges in the Pacific.
It was also interesting hearing the BAE FCAS MD be quizzed at Farnborough by Sky News concerning rumours of Australia joining the programme - and evading the question rather than denying it.
Proposed FB-23 fighter-bomber..



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I wonder if they'll re-do the mock-up which has been doing the rounds at RIAT etc, in light of this design iteration? The mock-up looks kind of weird with its beak-like nose. It will still beat the F35 in the aesthetics department.
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The UK is to build a technology demonstrator of it Tempest …
Revised configuration model - page 2
https://informamarkets.turtl.co/stor...sue-2/page/7/1
Revised configuration model - page 2
https://informamarkets.turtl.co/stor...sue-2/page/7/1

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Adios to the Pregnant Pelican - UK to fly new Tempest demonstrator within five years.




