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UK unveils new next generation fighter jet, the 'Tempest'

Old 13th Sep 2019, 12:33
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Sounds familiar, think is the standard spiel before any new program gets traction. The F-35 had a similar pitch, claiming a transformation in the production process. Sadly reality fell short of the vision.
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Old 13th Sep 2019, 13:00
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Some seem to forget that wars are won or lost on the ground.

All super powers have Air Power to dominate the sky in the first days of a conflict. And yes, we "can" build better aircraft.

But when all is said and done, the borders are marked on the ground.

See IS? They had NO air power, and still they managed to keep us busy for over a decade. And we are still not done with that gang.
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Old 13th Sep 2019, 20:11
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Originally Posted by Vilters View Post
Some seem to forget that wars are won or lost on the ground.

All super powers have Air Power to dominate the sky in the first days of a conflict. And yes, we "can" build better aircraft.

But when all is said and done, the borders are marked on the ground.

See IS? They had NO air power, and still they managed to keep us busy for over a decade. And we are still not done with that gang.
Oh, really? How would you explain this in 1945? No ground forces involved in this...


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Old 14th Sep 2019, 09:58
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It's a bit of a one shot tactic tho'??? You can't nuke everyone - well you can but...............................

Wars are not necessarily won or lost on the ground BUT you have to roll out the PBI to actually take over - otherwise you finish up with Saddam back at home in mid 1991 and ready for Round 2
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Old 14th Sep 2019, 10:35
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Originally Posted by Lima Juliet View Post


Oh, really? How would you explain this in 1945? No ground forces involved in this...


Not been used in aggression since. I wonder why?
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Old 14th Sep 2019, 12:45
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absolutely destroys real estate values......................
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Old 23rd Sep 2019, 02:04
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Originally Posted by Lima Juliet View Post


Oh, really? How would you explain this in 1945? No ground forces involved in this...

All the ground forces that died to capture tinnian and the other islands the b-29 flew from. Also many historians believe russians invaision of the northern islands did more to prompt the surrender than the nukes did
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Old 23rd Sep 2019, 07:07
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All the ground forces that died to capture tinnian and the other islands the b-29 flew from. Also many historians believe russians invaision of the northern islands did more to prompt the surrender than the nukes did
If you think like that, next you’ll be claiming that the Battle of Hastings secured the airfields for the Battle of Britain! Also, as I understand it the Soviets only took the Kuril Islands which have been long disputed between nations. What the Soviet Union did do though, was carve Korea in half with the US at the back end of the war (leading to the Korean War 5 years later and an uneasy ceasefire ever since!).
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