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Rt @LaTribune, more than 80 MICA missiles, each costing between €600,000 and €700,000, had been fired in total from the 12 French air force Rafale jet fighters operating in the #UAE before the weekend of March 28, since the beginning of the Iranian conflict.
French state sources do give a Mica price of €600-700k, but others give a cost of €1.5 million to €2 million ($1.6M–$2.2M) per unit.
India paid €1.9 m per Mica.
The new Mica NG programe cost $1.8 billion for 200+367 missiles - a unit price of €3.174 million!
India paid €1.9 m per Mica.
The new Mica NG programe cost $1.8 billion for 200+367 missiles - a unit price of €3.174 million!
The Chief of Staff of the French Army @CEMAT_FR announces the deployment of 4 Tiger helicopters in the Gulf to provide our military with an additional option for intercepting Iranian drones that threaten our nationals and our allies.
At a more affordable cost.
At a more affordable cost.
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From: Texas
Cha Ching. Look at that last sentence.
Settling scores. That is what he's about this time around. While an apt response from Iran's leadership (IRGC or otherwise) would be "...dealing with the current President's Reign of Chaos..." as the war of words continues, that a possible cease fire is in the offing is hopeful news.
One wonders how the Saudis feel about this. Have they changed their readiness posture, increased or decreased, recently?
Does any PPRuNer in the region have an insight on that?
That was only a matter of time, wasn't it? The pipeline being attacked?
This will be in retribution to our many soldiers, and others, that Iran has butchered or killed over the Old Regime's 47 year "Reign of Terror."
One wonders how the Saudis feel about this. Have they changed their readiness posture, increased or decreased, recently?
Does any PPRuNer in the region have an insight on that?
That was only a matter of time, wasn't it? The pipeline being attacked?
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From: Ferrara
"If China has designs on Taiwan, it's now or never."
hmm - Presdient Xi will no doubt look at the news
Russia invades Ukraine - not a good result
US dives into Middle east - not a great result so far
Should I invade taiwan? Well I've still purging the PLA top to bottom - what could go wrong?
Or maybe I'll just wait - US foreign policy and overseas ventures will likely be in total ruins in a year or so....................
hmm - Presdient Xi will no doubt look at the news
Russia invades Ukraine - not a good result
US dives into Middle east - not a great result so far
Should I invade taiwan? Well I've still purging the PLA top to bottom - what could go wrong?
Or maybe I'll just wait - US foreign policy and overseas ventures will likely be in total ruins in a year or so....................
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Sun Tzu said (roughly):
If you defeat his plan you defeat your enemy.
If the enemy isn't sure what your plan is, that makes his efforts more difficult.
If you cover your plan with a smokescreen of noise, or dust, it also makes his efforts more difficult.
Then again, if you don't know your own plan, you may defeat yourself.
And lastly: Ike has an infamous aphorism -
"Plans are worthless, but planning is everything".
(Pretty much every staff officer has had this as part of their syllabus).
If you defeat his plan you defeat your enemy.
If the enemy isn't sure what your plan is, that makes his efforts more difficult.
If you cover your plan with a smokescreen of noise, or dust, it also makes his efforts more difficult.
Then again, if you don't know your own plan, you may defeat yourself.
And lastly: Ike has an infamous aphorism -
"Plans are worthless, but planning is everything".
(Pretty much every staff officer has had this as part of their syllabus).
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Sounds insane, but who knows these days.
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Russian pro-war propagandist German Sadulaev proposed abandoning Ukraine’s Donbas and shifting to a defensive posture to avoid further losses.
Instead, he called for redirecting efforts toward striking the United States, suggesting that freed-up resources should be transferred to Iran. He argued that even a small portion of missiles currently used in Ukraine could be reallocated to target U.S. military bases in the Middle East.
Instead, he called for redirecting efforts toward striking the United States, suggesting that freed-up resources should be transferred to Iran. He argued that even a small portion of missiles currently used in Ukraine could be reallocated to target U.S. military bases in the Middle East.
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Sun Tzu said (roughly):
If you defeat his plan you defeat your enemy.
If the enemy isn't sure what your plan is, that makes his efforts more difficult.
If you cover your plan with a smokescreen of noise, or dust, it also makes his efforts more difficult.
Then again, if you don't know your own plan, you may defeat yourself.
And lastly: Ike has an infamous aphorism -
"Plans are worthless, but planning is everything".
(Pretty much every staff officer has had this as part of their syllabus).
If you defeat his plan you defeat your enemy.
If the enemy isn't sure what your plan is, that makes his efforts more difficult.
If you cover your plan with a smokescreen of noise, or dust, it also makes his efforts more difficult.
Then again, if you don't know your own plan, you may defeat yourself.
And lastly: Ike has an infamous aphorism -
"Plans are worthless, but planning is everything".
(Pretty much every staff officer has had this as part of their syllabus).
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Per my earlier post, and in light of Trump's latest social media brainf*rt, perhaps I should now say that both parties may consider various armageddon options in the event that things don't go their way.
Maybe that's part of Trump's grand plan: "You think you're the craziest?? I can out-crazy anyone!!"
Maybe that's part of Trump's grand plan: "You think you're the craziest?? I can out-crazy anyone!!"
WRT "crazy" man strategy applied by Nixon and Kissinger, that didn't go so well there, although it was certainly great for sound bites and LB-II gave lots of screen time. (LB-II did achieve the goal of attrition of the SAM-2 stockpiles in Hanoi, at a considerable cost of USAF/USN crews and civilians). Mr T has a head start in the field of crazy which most other countries fortuitously do not enjoy.
A revisionist might do well to go back and read the words of FDR in December 1941 (the 8th, in front of Congress... the body that used to be part of the US Govt, remember?), the comment "A date which will live in infamy" and reflect on the actions of the B&T show in recent times WRT international law and order. Going out and acting as a mob boss and whacking the head of state of any regime is rather odious, particularly before a "War" is declared. Wasn't part of that the bit that offended FDR?
We have gone a long way since 7th December 1941, not sure the direction is what was expected.
When Turkey is the responsible party, some self reflection might be in order.
In the meantime, taking Kharg Island might make Mr T feel good, it won't be appreciated by the future gold star families that arise from what used to be described as larceny. Doing that to Venezuela hasn't quite turned out as expected, as far as plans go, giving a justification for an expanded and protracted asymmetric war will end about as well as it did in Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam. A stated strategy to plunder the resources of a sovereign state won't look good on a resume in the future, nor will it plead well in the court when there is an accounting which on occasions does catch up to perpetrators of crimes. Not often, but occasionally.
If war was so damned simple to win at, there would be no need for bone spurs.
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From: 3rd Rock, #29B
About the same amount as buying a squadron of A-29 Super Tucanos to take out the Shaheeds, and thereafter about $1500/hr, $100/drone in munitions, day or night (.50 BMG), $22000/drone night with APKWS. In daytime, y'all can save on the .50 BMG ($10/round) with the 7.62 ($0.6/round) hose from an M134D that is already available underwing, but that comes with increased risks of frag damage to the aircraft doing the intercept, a bit of distance is a good thing.
Heck, you could sell tickets to go plinking, lots a folks would take on that circus act!
Heck, you could sell tickets to go plinking, lots a folks would take on that circus act!
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Drones can be targeted within a square meter, they can even have AI guidance. Satellite imagery is available in near real time.
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From: Over the rainbow
Drone defences are the key. Jamming, hiding, intercepting, killing the operators and so on. In fact you could argue what is the point in spending billions on the large dollar weapons. Drones and lots of them.
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From: Mauritius,soon or latter
If we qoute Sun Tzu, than :
No attack upwards ( up to the hil)
Is more appropriatte if anyone considers ground attack on Iranian costs all around SoH..( steep mountains almost to coastline).
Lesson that among many others was not known to Pochorek- KuK genaral in the opening battle against Serbia in avg 1914- and they finished it accordingly. 👹🤪
No attack upwards ( up to the hil)
Is more appropriatte if anyone considers ground attack on Iranian costs all around SoH..( steep mountains almost to coastline).
Lesson that among many others was not known to Pochorek- KuK genaral in the opening battle against Serbia in avg 1914- and they finished it accordingly. 👹🤪
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I doubt the USAF is overly worried about losing a few 65-year-old KC-135s.
The E-3 AWACS is a different story... As k3k3 notes, they don't have many to start with, and IIRC, that $100 million price tag was when they were new (in 1980's money) - replacements will be much, much more.
The E-3 AWACS is a different story... As k3k3 notes, they don't have many to start with, and IIRC, that $100 million price tag was when they were new (in 1980's money) - replacements will be much, much more.
Sounds like a slam-dunk for the Supreme Commander.
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From: Beyond the Blue Horizon
May I hope any aircrew who are shot down over Iran receive the care my late Father received, as I am really sad that your government feels that you need to be asked to do what he had to do, in a more questionable cause than his.
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Regards
Mr Mac
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Looks like, with the Iranian air force reduced to dust, the air-to-air threat is gone and the F-22s are headed home.
Meanwhile the A-10s heading out to the war zone have arrived in the UK. Long slow legs at their speed.
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17:47L - TABOR 31-36 Flt 6x F-22A’s departed RAF Lakenheath for Langley Air Force Base, supported by CLEAN 11-12 Flt.
17:47L - TABOR 31-36 Flt 6x F-22A’s departed RAF Lakenheath for Langley Air Force Base, supported by CLEAN 11-12 Flt.
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USAF A-10s are arriving in the UK tonight as the U.S. surges more Warthogs to the Middle East.
