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From: 3rd Rock, #29B
The US has a history since the "excursion" in Korea, (vets call it a "war"...) of recovering downed flight crew. With the greatest respect to the Pedro, Dustoffs and Sandy operators, the risk-reward on conducting such operations makes sense from a morale point of view when successful, but to force capability it seems to be less clear. I wish the teams well in their duties, but the risks placed upon their shoulders is substantial. SAR outside of a contested area is not disputed.
In recent times, the Taliban were frequently behaving in a manner consistent with the rhetoric of the W.H. chief tweeter, turning the calendar back to the Stone Age. ISIS/ISUL similar, however, Iran has its moments where it behaves in a civilised manner, certainly more coherently than the C-I-C of the WH does.
Best wishes to the CSAR crews.
In recent times, the Taliban were frequently behaving in a manner consistent with the rhetoric of the W.H. chief tweeter, turning the calendar back to the Stone Age. ISIS/ISUL similar, however, Iran has its moments where it behaves in a civilised manner, certainly more coherently than the C-I-C of the WH does.
Best wishes to the CSAR crews.
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From: 3rd Rock, #29B
Rhetoric
Confusion
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How Iran Should End the War
How Iran Should End the War
A Deal Tehran Could Take
M. Javad ZarifApril 3, 2026
M. JAVAD ZARIF is Associate Professor of Global Studies at the University of Tehran and Founder and President of Possibilities Architects. He previously served as Iran’s Vice President, Foreign Minister, and Permanent Representative in the United Nations in the past 30 years. The views expressed here are his own. Iran did not start its war with the United States and Israel. But more than a month in, the Islamic Republic is clearly winning it. American and Israeli forces have spent weeks incessantly bombing Iranian territory, killing thousands of people and damaging hundreds of buildings, all in hopes of toppling the country’s government. Yet Iran has held the line and successfully defended its interests. It has maintained continuity of leadership even as its top officials have been assassinated, and it has repeatedly hit back at its aggressors even as they strike at its military, civilian, and industrial facilities. The Americans and the Israelis who started the conflict with delusions of forcing capitulation thus find themselves in a quagmire without an exit strategy. The Iranians, by contrast, have pulled off a historic feat of resistance. To some Iranians, this success is reason to continue fighting until the aggressors are adequately punished rather than to search for a negotiated ending. Every night since February 28, large crowds of proud Iranians have gathered across the country to show their defiance by shouting, “No capitulation, no compromise, fight with America.” After all, the United States has proved that it cannot be trusted in talks and that it will not respect Iran’s sovereignty. By this logic, there is no reason to engage with the country now and offer it an off-ramp. Instead, Tehran should press its advantage, continuing to strike U.S. bases and blocking commerce in the Strait of Hormuz until Washington fundamentally alters its regional presence and posture. Yet although continuing to fight the United States and Israel might be psychologically satisfying, it will lead only to the further destruction of civilian lives and infrastructure. These actors, desperate after failing to achieve any of their objectives, are increasingly resorting to targeting vital pharmaceutical, energy, and industrial sites and randomly hitting innocent civilians. The violence is also slowly drawing in more countries, threatening to turn a regional conflagration into a global one. And regrettably, international organizations have been bullied by the United States into staying silent in the face of Washington’s many atrocities, including its massacre of nearly 170 schoolchildren on the first day of the war.
A Deal Tehran Could Take
M. Javad ZarifApril 3, 2026
M. JAVAD ZARIF is Associate Professor of Global Studies at the University of Tehran and Founder and President of Possibilities Architects. He previously served as Iran’s Vice President, Foreign Minister, and Permanent Representative in the United Nations in the past 30 years. The views expressed here are his own. Iran did not start its war with the United States and Israel. But more than a month in, the Islamic Republic is clearly winning it. American and Israeli forces have spent weeks incessantly bombing Iranian territory, killing thousands of people and damaging hundreds of buildings, all in hopes of toppling the country’s government. Yet Iran has held the line and successfully defended its interests. It has maintained continuity of leadership even as its top officials have been assassinated, and it has repeatedly hit back at its aggressors even as they strike at its military, civilian, and industrial facilities. The Americans and the Israelis who started the conflict with delusions of forcing capitulation thus find themselves in a quagmire without an exit strategy. The Iranians, by contrast, have pulled off a historic feat of resistance. To some Iranians, this success is reason to continue fighting until the aggressors are adequately punished rather than to search for a negotiated ending. Every night since February 28, large crowds of proud Iranians have gathered across the country to show their defiance by shouting, “No capitulation, no compromise, fight with America.” After all, the United States has proved that it cannot be trusted in talks and that it will not respect Iran’s sovereignty. By this logic, there is no reason to engage with the country now and offer it an off-ramp. Instead, Tehran should press its advantage, continuing to strike U.S. bases and blocking commerce in the Strait of Hormuz until Washington fundamentally alters its regional presence and posture. Yet although continuing to fight the United States and Israel might be psychologically satisfying, it will lead only to the further destruction of civilian lives and infrastructure. These actors, desperate after failing to achieve any of their objectives, are increasingly resorting to targeting vital pharmaceutical, energy, and industrial sites and randomly hitting innocent civilians. The violence is also slowly drawing in more countries, threatening to turn a regional conflagration into a global one. And regrettably, international organizations have been bullied by the United States into staying silent in the face of Washington’s many atrocities, including its massacre of nearly 170 schoolchildren on the first day of the war.
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RBF, the Teheran university professor is delusional. If he thinks that Iran is winning because it's firing rockets at most of its neighbours he is wrong. Eventually they will wonder why they are being attacked and realise that with a couple of exceptions, the Sunni, Shia war has fired up again.
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Iran lowers the age of active troops to 12, I can imagine the psychological effect on US troops on the ground having to kill children.
https://www.algemeiner.com/2026/03/3...raeli-strikes/
As US and Israeli strikes pound Iranian military sites, Iran is lowering the enlistment age for security roles to 12 and threating civilians with death for photographing war damage, fueling international outrage.
Last week, Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) announced a campaign recruiting children as young as 12 to serve as “Homeland Defending Combatants for Iran,” assisting with patrols, checkpoints, and logistics.
With the minimum age for war roles officially lowered to 12, human rights groups are now condemning the move, demanding that Iranian authorities immediately halt the campaign while imposing a complete ban on enlisting children under 18 in all military and paramilitary forces.
“There is no excuse for a military recruitment drive that targets children to sign up, much less 12-year-olds,” Bill Van Esveld, associate director for children’s rights at Human Rights Watch, said in a statement. “What this boils down to is that Iranian authorities are apparently willing to risk children’s lives for some extra manpower.”
“The officials involved in this reprehensible policy are putting children at risk of serious and irreversible harm and themselves at risk of criminal liability,” Van Esveld continued. “Senior leaders who fail to put a stop to this can make no claim to care for Iran’s children.”
For years, Iran has drafted children under 18 into the Basij militia, with Human Rights Watch documenting boys as young as 14 years old killed in combat, revealing a brutal pattern of exploiting children on the battlefield.
In the past, widely circulated social media images and videos have repeatedly shown children and teenagers in military-style uniforms cracking down on protests, including during the 2022 Woman, Life, Freedom uprising, which erupted nationwide after Mahsa Amini, a young Kurdish woman, died in a Tehran police station following her arrest for allegedly violating hijab rules.
Under international law, Iran’s latest initiative flagrantly violates the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which explicitly prohibits the use of children in military activities, marking a dramatic breach of its global obligations.
Last week, Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) announced a campaign recruiting children as young as 12 to serve as “Homeland Defending Combatants for Iran,” assisting with patrols, checkpoints, and logistics.
With the minimum age for war roles officially lowered to 12, human rights groups are now condemning the move, demanding that Iranian authorities immediately halt the campaign while imposing a complete ban on enlisting children under 18 in all military and paramilitary forces.
“There is no excuse for a military recruitment drive that targets children to sign up, much less 12-year-olds,” Bill Van Esveld, associate director for children’s rights at Human Rights Watch, said in a statement. “What this boils down to is that Iranian authorities are apparently willing to risk children’s lives for some extra manpower.”
“The officials involved in this reprehensible policy are putting children at risk of serious and irreversible harm and themselves at risk of criminal liability,” Van Esveld continued. “Senior leaders who fail to put a stop to this can make no claim to care for Iran’s children.”
For years, Iran has drafted children under 18 into the Basij militia, with Human Rights Watch documenting boys as young as 14 years old killed in combat, revealing a brutal pattern of exploiting children on the battlefield.
In the past, widely circulated social media images and videos have repeatedly shown children and teenagers in military-style uniforms cracking down on protests, including during the 2022 Woman, Life, Freedom uprising, which erupted nationwide after Mahsa Amini, a young Kurdish woman, died in a Tehran police station following her arrest for allegedly violating hijab rules.
Under international law, Iran’s latest initiative flagrantly violates the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which explicitly prohibits the use of children in military activities, marking a dramatic breach of its global obligations.
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From: Co. Down
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Salute!
ACES seat shown has drogue chute for really high speed ejection, and the main chute is and hard to tell, but survival kit seems not there either. So the user looks to have survived the bail and is evading.
See: https://www.ejectionsite.com/aces5.html
BTW, only flew two hot combat SARS as a Sandy, but sat alert for many.
Guns sends..
ACES seat shown has drogue chute for really high speed ejection, and the main chute is and hard to tell, but survival kit seems not there either. So the user looks to have survived the bail and is evading.
See: https://www.ejectionsite.com/aces5.html
BTW, only flew two hot combat SARS as a Sandy, but sat alert for many.
Guns sends..
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From: Washington.
Salute!
ACES seat shown has drogue chute for really high speed ejection, and the main chute is and hard to tell, but survival kit seems not there either. So the user looks to have survived the bail and is evading.
BTW, only flew two hot combat SARS as a Sandy, but sat alert for many.
Guns sends..
ACES seat shown has drogue chute for really high speed ejection, and the main chute is and hard to tell, but survival kit seems not there either. So the user looks to have survived the bail and is evading.
BTW, only flew two hot combat SARS as a Sandy, but sat alert for many.
Guns sends..
https://www.rtx.com/collinsaerospace...-ejection-seat
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From: Newcastle Upon Tyne
If it was a MB seat I'd agree that the PSP still looks to be in place but I don't know if the Aces seat have a seat pack.
Of course, there's always the possibility its just failed to get pulled out of the seat pan for some reason.
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From: surfing, watching for sharks
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From: Over the rainbow
How did the Iranians shoot down the F15? I thought their military had been obliterated?
Thoughts for the crew. Sadly I fear one of many that may go down over Iran.
Thoughts for the crew. Sadly I fear one of many that may go down over Iran.
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From: Cluedo
I do feel for the service personnel involved. I enjoyed serving alongside many US service personnel, who I have great respect for (and still do), including serving in Afghanistan (Trump seems to have forgotten NATO article 5….)
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From: Over the rainbow
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Back in Mission Accomplished Iraq
Iraqi leaders face balancing act as Iran conflict exposes deep rifts
Hours after the killing of Iran’s supreme leader Ali Khamenei at the start of the war, factions from the Islamic Resistance in Iraq, an umbrella body of Iran-backed armed groups, vowed to drag the US into a long war of attrition that would “leave no American presence in the region generally, especially in Iraq”. The group has claimed responsibility for scores of drone and missile attacks on targets in Iraq and neighbouring countries, such the US base in Erbil and the city’s international airport, Camp Victoria near Baghdad international airport, and compounds of US oil companies in Basra and northern Iraq, forcing the country to suspend production in big oilfields.
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