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Tricky one.
The obligation to render aid to survivors has to be balanced with the risk to ones own crew.
What exactly is the risk to an SSN's crew off Sri Lanka, from Iranian forces back in the motherland ?
(the weapons fit on this particular ship was very much of the light frigate, SAG-only type, so it wasn't exactly a ASW asset in the first place, but after it has sunk that makes it even less of an excuse)
The obligation to render aid to survivors has to be balanced with the risk to ones own crew.
What exactly is the risk to an SSN's crew off Sri Lanka, from Iranian forces back in the motherland ?
(the weapons fit on this particular ship was very much of the light frigate, SAG-only type, so it wasn't exactly a ASW asset in the first place, but after it has sunk that makes it even less of an excuse)
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So after three or four weeks where Iran's leadership is decapitated. It's military decimated and therefore it's ability to defend itself limited. You have an Iran open to invasion by any authoritarian faction that decides to have a go.
Is that the point where Trump goes home, collects his peace prize and we all suffer another 10 years of terrorism and mass immigration?
Is that the point where Trump goes home, collects his peace prize and we all suffer another 10 years of terrorism and mass immigration?
When it comes to mass immigration. That's a fact of life because the world in general is completely unstable, thanks to various repressive, violent and incapable regimes.
That won't change.
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"Tricky one. The obligation to render aid to survivors has to be balanced with the risk to ones own crew.
What exactly is the risk to an SSN's crew off Sri Lanka, from Iranian forces back in the motherland ?"
Well you can can hardy take them all on board - numbers for a start - and they're not going to be happy - in fact they will be mad as hell. You could signal the sinking immediately to all vessels and hang around until someone turned up but you might be worried about just who that someone might be.
I'm afraid we finish up with the same issues as the "Lusitania" sinking in WW1. Submarines are different
What exactly is the risk to an SSN's crew off Sri Lanka, from Iranian forces back in the motherland ?"
Well you can can hardy take them all on board - numbers for a start - and they're not going to be happy - in fact they will be mad as hell. You could signal the sinking immediately to all vessels and hang around until someone turned up but you might be worried about just who that someone might be.
I'm afraid we finish up with the same issues as the "Lusitania" sinking in WW1. Submarines are different
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As for the terrorism originated from the current Iranian regime that may stop.
When it comes to mass immigration. That's a fact of life because the world in general is completely unstable, thanks to various repressive, violent and incapable regimes.
That won't change.
When it comes to mass immigration. That's a fact of life because the world in general is completely unstable, thanks to various repressive, violent and incapable regimes.
That won't change.
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"Tricky one. The obligation to render aid to survivors has to be balanced with the risk to ones own crew.
What exactly is the risk to an SSN's crew off Sri Lanka, from Iranian forces back in the motherland ?"
Well you can can hardy take them all on board - numbers for a start - and they're not going to be happy - in fact they will be mad as hell. You could signal the sinking immediately to all vessels and hang around until someone turned up but you might be worried about just who that someone might be.
I'm afraid we finish up with the same issues as the "Lusitania" sinking in WW1. Submarines are different
What exactly is the risk to an SSN's crew off Sri Lanka, from Iranian forces back in the motherland ?"
Well you can can hardy take them all on board - numbers for a start - and they're not going to be happy - in fact they will be mad as hell. You could signal the sinking immediately to all vessels and hang around until someone turned up but you might be worried about just who that someone might be.
I'm afraid we finish up with the same issues as the "Lusitania" sinking in WW1. Submarines are different
It is a modern open ocean SSN, not an old style SSK. Just put a swimmer in the water and pull em up the casing, zip tie them and shove them below. They can be packed in on an SSN, there is room, of that I can be sure. Might be a tad cramped and smelly and awkward. Offload them tout suite in the nearest port, or transfer at sea There are no offensive ASW assets within a thousand miles. And 99% of folk pulled out of the sh1t are very happy in my experience.
Excuses can always be found. It is the intent that matters. It is what makes 'us' different than the other lot.
(Just like with drug runners)
(The reason Iranians are not running out into the streets has a lot to do with how Trump et al have mishandled Venezuela. Good will takes centuries to gain and seconds to lose )
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Might be worth referencing The Laconia Incident here (Wikipedia is your friend).
Not too well publicised, as it paints several participating combatants in a poor light. In short, 1942, German U-Boat U-156 sank the British liner RMS Laconia, unaware that a substantial number of Italian POWs were on board. As the ship sank the U-Boat commander, Korvettenkapitan Hartenstein, ordered his vessel to surface, assisted the survivors and transmitted an uncoded mayday. Some time later as his and compatriot submarines were actually towing the lifeboats towards land, the flotilla was attaacked by an American B-24 and B-25s, and the U-Boats were forced to escape.
The upshot of this incident was Grand Admiral Doenitz issuing orders forbidding his vessels from such assistance henceforth; the so called Laconia Order. At Nuremburg, Doenitz was indicted on this count as a War Crime, but received no sentence as, it was argued, British and American vessels had implemented identical policies since the beginning of their participation in the War.
(Incidentally, and for the alleviation of confusion, my solicitors (Damidges, Grabbit and Runne) have advised me to make the following declaration;
1. I am unrelated by birth or marriage to any 3rd Reich Grand Admirals.
2. I am unrelated to the namesakes of any dock-bound Type 45 Destroyers beginning with D.
3. I have no business connection to any high street circular-sweet-patisserie franchise).
Not too well publicised, as it paints several participating combatants in a poor light. In short, 1942, German U-Boat U-156 sank the British liner RMS Laconia, unaware that a substantial number of Italian POWs were on board. As the ship sank the U-Boat commander, Korvettenkapitan Hartenstein, ordered his vessel to surface, assisted the survivors and transmitted an uncoded mayday. Some time later as his and compatriot submarines were actually towing the lifeboats towards land, the flotilla was attaacked by an American B-24 and B-25s, and the U-Boats were forced to escape.
The upshot of this incident was Grand Admiral Doenitz issuing orders forbidding his vessels from such assistance henceforth; the so called Laconia Order. At Nuremburg, Doenitz was indicted on this count as a War Crime, but received no sentence as, it was argued, British and American vessels had implemented identical policies since the beginning of their participation in the War.
(Incidentally, and for the alleviation of confusion, my solicitors (Damidges, Grabbit and Runne) have advised me to make the following declaration;
1. I am unrelated by birth or marriage to any 3rd Reich Grand Admirals.
2. I am unrelated to the namesakes of any dock-bound Type 45 Destroyers beginning with D.
3. I have no business connection to any high street circular-sweet-patisserie franchise).
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From NBC News https://archive.ph/kFQXJ
President Donald Trump has privately expressed serious interest in deploying U.S. troops on the ground inside of Iran, according to two U.S. officials, a former U.S. official and another person with knowledge of the conversations.
Trump has discussed the idea of deploying ground troops with aides and Republican officials outside the White House while outlining his vision for a post-war Iran in which Iran’s uranium is secure and the U.S. and a new Iranian regime cooperate on oil production similar to how the U.S. and Venezuela are, the sources said.
The president’s comments expressing serious interest in deploying ground troops have not focused on a large-scale ground invasion of Iran, but rather on the idea of a small contingent of U.S. troops that would be used for specific strategic purposes, the U.S. officials, the former U.S. official and the person with knowledge of the discussions said. They said Trump has not made any decisions or given any orders related to ground troops.
Trump has discussed the idea of deploying ground troops with aides and Republican officials outside the White House while outlining his vision for a post-war Iran in which Iran’s uranium is secure and the U.S. and a new Iranian regime cooperate on oil production similar to how the U.S. and Venezuela are, the sources said.
The president’s comments expressing serious interest in deploying ground troops have not focused on a large-scale ground invasion of Iran, but rather on the idea of a small contingent of U.S. troops that would be used for specific strategic purposes, the U.S. officials, the former U.S. official and the person with knowledge of the discussions said. They said Trump has not made any decisions or given any orders related to ground troops.
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From NBC News https://archive.ph/kFQXJ
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His story changes every hour and in the wrong direction
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This non-war, non-SMO, non-police-action makes we wonder if we have forgotten the old saying:
"friends don't let friends drive drunk... "
As much as we may find Irans leaders to be autocratically bound in a theocracy that places a greater interest in the preservation of a moustache than the life of their females, it seems that if this action is the answer, it might be time to revisit what on earth the question was.
Watching the train traverse the canyon without a bridge is amusing when Wile E. Coyote is concerned, less so when you may wish to consider how many new plots of land are going to be needed as a response to whatever it is that the shining light on the hill is up to today. Seems to suggest that the files are Pulitzer grade material.
With great power comes great responsibility, or so it used to say on a fortune cookie, or a Spiderman comic strip...
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Russia is now providing targeting information to Iran and the US are easing Russian sanctions at the same time. You couldn’t make it up.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russia-providing-intelligence-iran-location-us-forces-wsources-say-rcna262115
The US also hadn’t the sense to fill the strategic oil reserves up before hitting Iran and cutting off 20% of the worlds supply. hence the fuel prices in the US are rising.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russia-providing-intelligence-iran-location-us-forces-wsources-say-rcna262115
The US also hadn’t the sense to fill the strategic oil reserves up before hitting Iran and cutting off 20% of the worlds supply. hence the fuel prices in the US are rising.
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Videos
Video showing strikes earlier tonight against Mehrabad International Airport in the Iranian capital of Tehran, with strikes by Israel and/or the United States targeting civil infrastructure and aircraft at the airport, including at least one Boeing 747.
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That’ll buff out….. not.
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Photos have now confirmed the destruction of a AN/TPY-2 Forward Based X-band Transportable Radar operated by the U.S. Army, following an Iranian drone attack earlier this week targeting Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan.
The AN/TPY-2 is the primary ground-based air surveillance radar for the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) System, with this specific radar likely supporting THAAD Batteries in Israel and Jordan.
The AN/TPY-2 is the primary ground-based air surveillance radar for the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) System, with this specific radar likely supporting THAAD Batteries in Israel and Jordan.
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Hopefully the UK arrests yesterday show MI5/MI6 are aware of any plans for the UK….
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BREAKING: Azerbaijan’s State Security Service (SSS) says it has thwarted terrorist plots by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) targeting key sites in the country. According to officials, plans aimed to create panic and damage Azerbaijan’s international reputation, including attacks on the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline, the Israeli embassy, a prominent Jewish community leader, and an Ashkenazi synagogue.
Investigations revealed that Iranian nationals Rustamzada Behnam Sahibali and Zandkian Yaser Rahim organized the transport of explosives into Azerbaijan, collaborating with Azerbaijani citizen Guliyev Tarkhan Tarlan oglu. Authorities discovered 7 kilograms of C-4 explosives near Shikhov, two additional remote-controlled C-4 devices hidden in various locations, and a 1.28 kg device with a 250–300 meter blast radius in Garadag district.
The SSS also uncovered a plan to assassinate a public figure, with local collaborators instructed to surveil the target and procure weapons and a vehicle. Preventive measures led to arrests and convictions: four Azerbaijanis received 6 years 6 months in prison, while others were charged with attempted assassination and illegal possession of explosives.
Officials identified IRGC intelligence officer Col. Ali Asghar Bordbar Sherami as a key organizer.
Investigations revealed that Iranian nationals Rustamzada Behnam Sahibali and Zandkian Yaser Rahim organized the transport of explosives into Azerbaijan, collaborating with Azerbaijani citizen Guliyev Tarkhan Tarlan oglu. Authorities discovered 7 kilograms of C-4 explosives near Shikhov, two additional remote-controlled C-4 devices hidden in various locations, and a 1.28 kg device with a 250–300 meter blast radius in Garadag district.
The SSS also uncovered a plan to assassinate a public figure, with local collaborators instructed to surveil the target and procure weapons and a vehicle. Preventive measures led to arrests and convictions: four Azerbaijanis received 6 years 6 months in prison, while others were charged with attempted assassination and illegal possession of explosives.
Officials identified IRGC intelligence officer Col. Ali Asghar Bordbar Sherami as a key organizer.
Video
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The US has approved the emergency sale of 12,000 BLU-110A/B 1000lb general-purpose bomb bodies to Israel. Part of the order to be filled, presumably immediately, “from stock”.
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“Our commanders have abandoned us. They’re hiding like rats.”
An Iranian soldier in Lorestan says commanders have deserted their posts and gone into hiding fearing Israeli and US bombardment, leaving conscripts like him to face the danger alone. He says soldiers are sleeping outside in barracks yards, the desert, and the wilderness out of fear.
Reports like this are becoming increasingly common, with soldiers saying their commanders are sacrificing their lives while protecting their own.
An Iranian soldier in Lorestan says commanders have deserted their posts and gone into hiding fearing Israeli and US bombardment, leaving conscripts like him to face the danger alone. He says soldiers are sleeping outside in barracks yards, the desert, and the wilderness out of fear.
Reports like this are becoming increasingly common, with soldiers saying their commanders are sacrificing their lives while protecting their own.
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Russia is now providing targeting information to Iran and the US are easing Russian sanctions at the same time. You couldn’t make it up.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russia-providing-intelligence-iran-location-us-forces-wsources-say-rcna262115
The US also hadn’t the sense to fill the strategic oil reserves up before hitting Iran and cutting off 20% of the worlds supply. hence the fuel prices in the US are rising.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russia-providing-intelligence-iran-location-us-forces-wsources-say-rcna262115
The US also hadn’t the sense to fill the strategic oil reserves up before hitting Iran and cutting off 20% of the worlds supply. hence the fuel prices in the US are rising.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Geneva_Convention