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From: Exit stage right.
Repeat a lie enough times and it becomes true, racedo?Slavery was both immensely profitable and tenable, witnessed by many nations which continued to profit hugely, long after abolition. It’s not for UK to tell HK how it should be governed. But we are very much party to the 50 year joint agreement guaranteeing HK retains its own laws. Amongst other things, these outlaw Hong Kongers from being kidnapped without legal process to reappear in Chinese prisons.
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From: Exit stage right.
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QUEST1 has had it's tracker turned off since 19 May heading to Mediterranean (MEDITE)
So what was is doing at Gibraltar in July if it wasn't heading back to some clandestine delivery to a rogue nation?
So what was is doing at Gibraltar in July if it wasn't heading back to some clandestine delivery to a rogue nation?
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From: Ferrara
Racedo (and the likes of Van) are useful as they stick out a foot occasionally to interrupt the group think that can settle in on here
I'm sure West Coast, SAS-less and some of the other Cold War warriors don't object to having their tails tweaked occasionally.........
I'm sure West Coast, SAS-less and some of the other Cold War warriors don't object to having their tails tweaked occasionally.........
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Does this not read like......It looks like we have screwed our Navy over so much we can't protect our own ships, I know. let's suggest we have an international force and get them to do it for us.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...rce/ar-AAEKfy2
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...rce/ar-AAEKfy2
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From: Beyond the M25
Does this not read like......It looks like we have screwed our Navy over so much we can't protect our own ships, I know. let's suggest we have an international force and get them to do it for us.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...rce/ar-AAEKfy2
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...rce/ar-AAEKfy2
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Even if the Royal Navy was four times it’s size, it couldn’t possibly escort every single ship. But a broad coalition (no, NOT an EU Navy!) would certainly change this picture, however unpalatable Iran May find this. How ironic that the Iranian Revolutionary Guards should be succeeding where Trump failed!
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From: Beyond the M25
But a broad coalition (no, NOT an EU Navy!)
How ironic that the Iranian Revolutionary Guards should be succeeding where Trump failed!
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From: Exit stage right.
Racedo (and the likes of Van) are useful as they stick out a foot occasionally to interrupt the group think that can settle in on here
I'm sure West Coast, SAS-less and some of the other Cold War warriors don't object to having their tails tweaked occasionally.........
I'm sure West Coast, SAS-less and some of the other Cold War warriors don't object to having their tails tweaked occasionally.........
Some people will always do as they are told, others won't.
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From: Exit stage right.
Even if the Royal Navy was four times it’s size, it couldn’t possibly escort every single ship. But a broad coalition (no, NOT an EU Navy!) would certainly change this picture, however unpalatable Iran May find this. How ironic that the Iranian Revolutionary Guards should be succeeding where Trump failed!
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From: Ferrara
"Why do you choose to make a thread personal about someone ? As someone who has openly supported Trump since 2016 then your assessment kind of falls flat."
Just interested in what drives you Racdeo - for the record I'm a middle of the road, wishy washy Liberal who doesn't trust anything any politician or newspaper says
As for supporting Trump since 2016 ... how do you know?? I've only been posting on here since late 2018 ....................
In fact I think he's a disgrace - the worst ever US President - a man I wouldn't allow to be in the same room alone with any female for a start..............
Just interested in what drives you Racdeo - for the record I'm a middle of the road, wishy washy Liberal who doesn't trust anything any politician or newspaper says
As for supporting Trump since 2016 ... how do you know?? I've only been posting on here since late 2018 ....................
In fact I think he's a disgrace - the worst ever US President - a man I wouldn't allow to be in the same room alone with any female for a start..............
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From: Exit stage right.
"Why do you choose to make a thread personal about someone ? As someone who has openly supported Trump since 2016 then your assessment kind of falls flat."
Just interested in what drives you Racdeo - for the record I'm a middle of the road, wishy washy Liberal who doesn't trust anything any politician or newspaper says
As for supporting Trump since 2016 ... how do you know?? I've only been posting on here since late 2018 ....................
In fact I think he's a disgrace - the worst ever US President - a man I wouldn't allow to be in the same room alone with any female for a start..............
Just interested in what drives you Racdeo - for the record I'm a middle of the road, wishy washy Liberal who doesn't trust anything any politician or newspaper says
As for supporting Trump since 2016 ... how do you know?? I've only been posting on here since late 2018 ....................
In fact I think he's a disgrace - the worst ever US President - a man I wouldn't allow to be in the same room alone with any female for a start..............
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From: Ferrara
"As someone who has openly supported Trump since 2016 then your assessment "
led me to believe you were referring to me
If its you that supports Trump well I apologise ... and sympathize
led me to believe you were referring to me
If its you that supports Trump well I apologise ... and sympathize
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From: Hampshire
During a relatively short trip, a thought crossed my mind. We seem to be many frigates, carriers, submarines and support vessels short of a navy. Wouldn't it therefore make sense to approach the Yanks for a repeat of the 1940/41 WW2 agreement where GB traded territory for fifty fairly rancid WW1 American destroyers ?
The trade-off - which heralded the start of the American dismemberment of the British Empire - perhaps created a useful diplomatic and commercial precedent. Introducing the Yanks to disaffected component parts of the British Isles might attract some serious equipment offers.
The Scots are always trumpeting independence. How many frigates would that be worth ? Prestigious Scottish golf venues might raise the ante to include a few doddery aircraft carriers and so on. I'm sure you get the general idea ! Fond as I am of the Isle of Wight, I would not like to lose that amenity, although if someone dangled an entire fleet I could be tempted.
The trade-off - which heralded the start of the American dismemberment of the British Empire - perhaps created a useful diplomatic and commercial precedent. Introducing the Yanks to disaffected component parts of the British Isles might attract some serious equipment offers.
The Scots are always trumpeting independence. How many frigates would that be worth ? Prestigious Scottish golf venues might raise the ante to include a few doddery aircraft carriers and so on. I'm sure you get the general idea ! Fond as I am of the Isle of Wight, I would not like to lose that amenity, although if someone dangled an entire fleet I could be tempted.
