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And now reportedly his advisors can't agree.
For a supposed decisive man of action there's a lot of hesitation.
I'd fully expected to wake up this morning and read it had already happened.
Nothing like telegraphing what you intend to do - and no I don't believe that's a deliberate strategy either - this administration is as dumb as a bag of hammers.
EDIT:
Have you seen his latest Tweet?
About frikkin' White House flagpoles???
For a supposed decisive man of action there's a lot of hesitation.
I'd fully expected to wake up this morning and read it had already happened.
Nothing like telegraphing what you intend to do - and no I don't believe that's a deliberate strategy either - this administration is as dumb as a bag of hammers.
EDIT:
Have you seen his latest Tweet?
About frikkin' White House flagpoles???
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Reference the burning tankers (post 1943), it seems the one which was struck is part of the Russian shadow fleet.
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Iran doubling down.
Supreme leader Khamenei Twitter account.
Supreme leader Khamenei Twitter account.
We must give a strong response to the terrorist Zionist regime. We will show the Zionists no mercy.



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Well, the Israelis require an uprising under a reliable and believable opposition leader as a major ground force to enact regime change in Iran, and that doesn't appear to be happening. Although it appears that Israel is mostly operating at will within Iran in SF groups, presumably with local help.
Iran either needs to cross two countries to get to Israel or convince other local nations to attack Israel, otherwise this really goes nowhere and they continue to fire missiles at each other.
Leaving a power vacuum at the top of Iran doesn't feel like a workable plan.
Iran either needs to cross two countries to get to Israel or convince other local nations to attack Israel, otherwise this really goes nowhere and they continue to fire missiles at each other.
Leaving a power vacuum at the top of Iran doesn't feel like a workable plan.


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Be careful what you wish for - there seems to be an automatic assumption that any new leader would be friendly to Israel. Given the y're both trying to run the Middle East that's not a given
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Be careful what you wish for - there seems to be an automatic assumption that any new leader would be friendly to Israel. Given they're both trying to run the Middle East that's not a given.
An already severely weakened Iran, having already seen its major local allies dismantled and now itself being militarily emasculated, leaves the other two to face off against each other.
Neither poses an existential threat to Israel.

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Interesting that IDF kept AIM-7 Sparrow in the inventory when it got AIM-120 AMRAAM. There isn't actually a defined shelf-life for AIM-7 and they obviously invested in climate controlled storage otherwise seals would have dried out and other air forces found refurbishment wasn't cost effective compared to buying something newer. RAF started getting Skyflash in 1978 and the USAF AMRAAM in 1998.

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Possible - they held "secret" negotiations there recently.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/report...s-iran-strike/

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Interesting that IDF kept AIM-7 Sparrow in the inventory when it got AIM-120 AMRAAM. There isn't actually a defined shelf-life for AIM-7 and they obviously invested in climate controlled storage otherwise seals would have dried out and other air forces found refurbishment wasn't cost effective compared to buying something newer. RAF started getting Skyflash in 1978 and the USAF AMRAAM in 1998.


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Reference the F-22s, 12 now airborne out of Langley AFB (TABOR51 (x4), 61 (x4), and 71 (x4), en-route to Muwaffaq Salti AB.
GOLD tankers are supporting them on Coronet East 083.

GOLD tankers are supporting them on Coronet East 083.

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Following the two Iranian Governmental flights to Oman this afternoon, Iran denies negotiations are taking place in Oman
Al Jazeera Live Updates
Reporting from Tehran, Iran
I spoke with Iran’s foreign minister, Abbas Araghchi, about reports regarding the dispatching of a negotiating team to Oman, and he told me that this report is not true and Iran has not sent any negotiating team to Muscat."
Al Jazeera Live Updates
"Iran denies sending negotiators to Oman’s capital
Reporting from Tehran, IranI spoke with Iran’s foreign minister, Abbas Araghchi, about reports regarding the dispatching of a negotiating team to Oman, and he told me that this report is not true and Iran has not sent any negotiating team to Muscat."





