Chuck Yeager dislikes the British
The US are not well known nowadays for cultural sensitivity and back then I doubt the concept even existed.
As an Aussie, I have to say the stereotypes are as follows;
Irish: Mad, heavy drinkers, would back you up in a fight.
Scots: Mad, heavy drinkers, tight-arsed, would back you up in a fight unless you owed them 5p.
Welsh: Slightly mad, would probably stop a fight in its tracks by simply yelling out 'Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch' .
English: A bit slow, pasty, couldn't drink a nun under the table, would run from a fight even if it was their best friend.
Just a stereotype, but half of that word can be read as 'typical'
Irish: Mad, heavy drinkers, would back you up in a fight.
Scots: Mad, heavy drinkers, tight-arsed, would back you up in a fight unless you owed them 5p.
Welsh: Slightly mad, would probably stop a fight in its tracks by simply yelling out 'Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch' .
English: A bit slow, pasty, couldn't drink a nun under the table, would run from a fight even if it was their best friend.
Just a stereotype, but half of that word can be read as 'typical'
Aussie: Hard drinking, BBQ taming, loutish, hate the royals etc.
Until you actually go over there and find that they are church going, lightweights who go to bed at 9pm and love the Royal Family.
I couldn't believe how quiet Sydney was on a week night after about half past nine.
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Nigel an awkward ace, The Oberon ?
Nah, lovely chap. Down to earth “Midlander”. Totally focussed - probably like CY - and with a similar education I feel.
Nah, lovely chap. Down to earth “Midlander”. Totally focussed - probably like CY - and with a similar education I feel.
I wonder if CY has ever wondered if the attitude of the Brits he met in WW2 was just them reacting to his own arrogant persona ...... nah of course it wouldn't
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Turin, remember the six o'clock swill.
They would get ratted by 6 then we would carry on till midnight, as for pints, I think they had 3-4 glasses to the pint.
I think the Americans had smaller pints but 4 to a pitcher. Saved on refill time.
They would get ratted by 6 then we would carry on till midnight, as for pints, I think they had 3-4 glasses to the pint.
I think the Americans had smaller pints but 4 to a pitcher. Saved on refill time.
Personally I thought that Chuck's cameo appearance in The Right Stuff was very amusing:
Question is, how much acting was he actually doing....
Question is, how much acting was he actually doing....
Until you actually go over there and find that they are church going, lightweights who go to bed at 9pm and love the Royal Family.
I couldn't believe how quiet Sydney was on a week night after about half past nine.
Church? Are you kidding?
When in Oz I have helped ring the bells for weddings.
No hymns in any of the services.
So I asked one vicar. He said "no point: they don't know the tunes, or they won't sing. They just come for the wedding". Short service though!
I couldn't believe how quiet Sydney was on a week night after about half past nine.
Church? Are you kidding?
When in Oz I have helped ring the bells for weddings.
No hymns in any of the services.
So I asked one vicar. He said "no point: they don't know the tunes, or they won't sing. They just come for the wedding". Short service though!
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Turin,
I don't know where or who you stayed with when you were in Sydney - but I think I could guess.
Anyway, if Chucky-boy lobbed into town here with that attitude, he wouldn't have lasted long.
We have enough w@nkers of our own, thanks.
I don't know where or who you stayed with when you were in Sydney - but I think I could guess.
Anyway, if Chucky-boy lobbed into town here with that attitude, he wouldn't have lasted long.
We have enough w@nkers of our own, thanks.
The Americans....terrible folk they are....always taking advantage of the British!
Perhaps a quick read might refresh some memories here.
A fellow named Churchill was not so dismissive of aid and assistance provided to the British during World War Two.
You might consider the legal issues FDR had to confront when trying to provide assistance to the British.
You harp you had to "pay" for that assistance...but you conveniently overlook you had not paid the Bill from WWI when you once again came with your hand out for assistance in the Second World War.
In December 1940....you were skint for funds to provide for your own defense.
FDR found a way to continue the military and economic aid to Great Britain.
https://history.state.gov/milestones...945/lend-lease
Perhaps a quick read might refresh some memories here.
A fellow named Churchill was not so dismissive of aid and assistance provided to the British during World War Two.
You might consider the legal issues FDR had to confront when trying to provide assistance to the British.
You harp you had to "pay" for that assistance...but you conveniently overlook you had not paid the Bill from WWI when you once again came with your hand out for assistance in the Second World War.
In December 1940....you were skint for funds to provide for your own defense.
FDR found a way to continue the military and economic aid to Great Britain.
https://history.state.gov/milestones...945/lend-lease
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During my time in the RAF my then sqn (206) took part in an exercise on detachment to Pax River USN base. On arrival we found that we had, in groups of 4 or 5, been allocated host families of members of the local sqns.
We were treated as family, invited to eat with them in their homes and taken sightseeing locally by said hosts.
Yeager is entitled to his opinión, based on his own experiences but from my personal experience I don´t believe it was widely shared.
We were treated as family, invited to eat with them in their homes and taken sightseeing locally by said hosts.
Yeager is entitled to his opinión, based on his own experiences but from my personal experience I don´t believe it was widely shared.
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Shack, we had an extended time in Offutt. We were hosted by Harry Bendorf in return of previous hosting with John Pack. There were two other USAF majors there. Just before we returned to UK we hosted them in the O Club. While there we went u/s again. Immediately Ralph Kelly told us to go to bed, we were to fly as pax in his C97 to Riverside. On return they had to shut down an engine but he pressed on as we were a VIP deterrent crew. When we landed it was to find a very worried and now relieved DetCom as our jet was now serviceable.
The following day it went u/s again but that's another story.
The following day it went u/s again but that's another story.
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PN - Thank you for the correction, I didn't have time to research the Diego Garcia deal, when I posted previously.
However, I note that even the Diego Garcia deal was still pretty one-sided, and the U.S. Diego Garcia deal negotiators must still be clinking champagne glasses over their "steal of a deal" ...
However, I note that even the Diego Garcia deal was still pretty one-sided, and the U.S. Diego Garcia deal negotiators must still be clinking champagne glasses over their "steal of a deal" ...
No monetary payment was made from the United States to the UK as part of this [Diego Garcia] agreement or any subsequent amendment. Rather, the United Kingdom received a US$14-million discount from the United States on the acquisition of submarine-launched ballistic missile system Polaris missiles per a now-declassified addendum to the 1966 agreement
Getting back to the "first past Mach 1" issue; whilst there is little in the nonsense about the F-84 on the first flight there seems incontrovertible evidence that it subsequently went supersonic well before the X-1.
I must have lucked in when meeting Bader (another childhood hero) as he was quite pleasant and affable; his autograph is tucked away somewhere safe, unlike the complete Beatles set which my sister has lost!
The hospitality from my many encounters with Americans has always been superb and I like to think it has always been reciprocated, but to be concerned because one elderly famous man may have a bee in his bonnet just whiles away the hours, I suppose
I must have lucked in when meeting Bader (another childhood hero) as he was quite pleasant and affable; his autograph is tucked away somewhere safe, unlike the complete Beatles set which my sister has lost!
The hospitality from my many encounters with Americans has always been superb and I like to think it has always been reciprocated, but to be concerned because one elderly famous man may have a bee in his bonnet just whiles away the hours, I suppose
Brother Eacott.....the truth is you always know where to find Cake and that mitigates your rough edges that are not worn down by your long tenure in Oz.
it subsequently went supersonic well before the X-1
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Gentleman
I respect Gen Yeager's accomplishments, and his military service. But as a retired USAF officer I do NOT share his opinion of the British. I am grateful that my country has such a friend in this troubled world.
We truly are "divided" by somewhat different cultures and a common language. The way one handles such differences demonstrates his world view, whether provincial or sophisticated. But I have had no trouble making friends and enjoying the company of British citizens.
We truly are "divided" by somewhat different cultures and a common language. The way one handles such differences demonstrates his world view, whether provincial or sophisticated. But I have had no trouble making friends and enjoying the company of British citizens.
I met an American some years ago and he was brash, rude, loud and self opinionated. I really disliked him and that set my own opinions of Americans right there. I'd literally spit venom at the sound of their voices.
Then a few years later, I travelled round Australia and met a family of Americans on holiday - sorry, vacation! They were the nicest people I'd met there after four months. We enjoyed eachothers company and we're still in contact today.
See? My incorrect view of all Americans just because I'd met one was righted after meeting another.
Mr Yeager is entitled to his opinions, but it probably would've been more acceptable if he'd worded it differently. I don't know the guy so I'm not going to make the same mistake again of generalising a nation.