Nuclear death traps.
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A sad little man who obviously reads too much fiction and wants his 15 minutes. Well he's had it and I hope his future unemployability reflects the disservice he's done to the uniform I wore for over 30 years with pride. I won't say "damage" because frankly having read his fairy tales, no one with an ounce of intelligence would give them too much credence. Time to let this pointless thread die the death it deserves.
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A friend pointed out the lads post about this on farcebook.
He has a photo of himself topless and his first line is "I apologise for the topless picture, but I cant show my clothing" he then talks about being imprisoned fot his words, and that now it is in the public domain he feels more assured that he wont be killed by the government.
Talks about covertly working to rid the UK of the dire threat of nuclear weapons etc etc.
I think he is a bit of a Walt, sees himself as some James Bond type. If anything he needs detained under the Mental Health act
He has a photo of himself topless and his first line is "I apologise for the topless picture, but I cant show my clothing" he then talks about being imprisoned fot his words, and that now it is in the public domain he feels more assured that he wont be killed by the government.
Talks about covertly working to rid the UK of the dire threat of nuclear weapons etc etc.
I think he is a bit of a Walt, sees himself as some James Bond type. If anything he needs detained under the Mental Health act
Yes, the ramblings of his diatribe and that Book of Faces post reported elsewhere perhaps indicates an 'epsiode'; irrespective of any failings that he may have highlighted, the issue of the mental stability of a member of a submarine crew is, perhaps, the bigger problem.
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Indeed, yer man's mental state does raise suspicions. The selection/vetting process is, of course, now open to question. In fairness, though, some blokes don't exhibit their strangeness until they've actually been in an alien and enclosed environment for a protracted period.
It's all down to probability, again.
It's all down to probability, again.
With regard to the mental stability of someone working in submarines (indeed one could argue anywhere in the military) there was that tragic case back in 2011 when a submariner on armed guard duty ran amok and killed one and injured several others of his crew:
Submariner's grudge turned proud day into tragedy - BBC News
What the RN did as a result of that incident I don't know, but perhaps this latest incident may be another wake up call regarding monitoring the mental state of those serving?
Submariner's grudge turned proud day into tragedy - BBC News
What the RN did as a result of that incident I don't know, but perhaps this latest incident may be another wake up call regarding monitoring the mental state of those serving?
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The book of Face post by our friendly neighbourhood walt has been given the reception it deserves.. A right Royal Naval pi$$ taking!!
A womble of the highest order.
A womble of the highest order.
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There have a number of incidents through the years by people doing what are now known as minimum wage jobs - shooting aircraft they are supposed to be guarding for one.
He said he had deliberately sought a draft to the SSBN to expose these problems. How did he know there were problems?
I imagine the enhanced submarine pay had nothing to do with it.
He said he had deliberately sought a draft to the SSBN to expose these problems. How did he know there were problems?
I imagine the enhanced submarine pay had nothing to do with it.
In fairness, though, some blokes don't exhibit their strangeness until they've actually been in an alien and enclosed environment for a protracted period.
In 1988 I spent a couple of days on a conventional boat to observe CASEXs from the receiving end. Crowded, interesting, smelly and constantly fighting rising claustrophobia. Would I willingly commit myself to 6 months underwater? Not if I remain sane, I wouldn't!
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If anything he needs detained under the Mental Health act
You do have to wonder if the Submarine Service needs to start from the ground up again.
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Have you seen what happens when a boat docks?
Please do tell, is it something like when all is shipshape as it were, that the Commander, dismisses the crew and they depart to see loved ones etc.
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Shirley, you mean 'crewed'?
And Life can imitate Art - or jokes!
The (British) Royal Navy had traditional "Daily Toasts" as follows:
Sunday "Absent Friends"
Monday "Our Ships at Sea"
Tuesday "Our Men"
Wednesday "Ourselves" (as no one else is likely to be concerned for us!)
Thursday "A Bloody War or a Sickly Season" (and a quick promotion!)
Friday "A Willing Foe and Sea-Room"
Saturday "Wives and Sweethearts" (may they never meet)
with the phrases in brackets being "understood" and sometimes actually stated.
In June last year [2013] the Tuesday and Saturday toasts were officially changed by 2SL (Second Sea Lord, the RN's Head of Personnel) to:
"Our Crews" and "Our Families" in recognition of the fact that females now serve at Sea.
The (British) Royal Navy had traditional "Daily Toasts" as follows:
Sunday "Absent Friends"
Monday "Our Ships at Sea"
Tuesday "Our Men"
Wednesday "Ourselves" (as no one else is likely to be concerned for us!)
Thursday "A Bloody War or a Sickly Season" (and a quick promotion!)
Friday "A Willing Foe and Sea-Room"
Saturday "Wives and Sweethearts" (may they never meet)
with the phrases in brackets being "understood" and sometimes actually stated.
In June last year [2013] the Tuesday and Saturday toasts were officially changed by 2SL (Second Sea Lord, the RN's Head of Personnel) to:
"Our Crews" and "Our Families" in recognition of the fact that females now serve at Sea.
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OoT, definitely er no I have been told.
Think concrete, unbreakable, and sluiceable while they hang a few on
Think concrete, unbreakable, and sluiceable while they hang a few on
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Well the boys character, spelling, intelligence and loyalty have been trashed over the last 3 pages here, what about the allegations? I get a sense of the emporers new clothes; it sometimes takes a naive person to speak the truth even if seen from low down in the food chain, and any official rebuttal has seemed pretty vague and weak so far.
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I guess, we are all expecting the RN to be able to run Our Nuclear Deterrent in a secure and safe as possible manner at all times.
Of course the boats will break-down now and then, like everything mechanical. I expect them to carry snags for a while here and there. But I expect them to be seaworthy before they depart on patrol.
I would also expect security to be tight and hope our authorities are constantly monitoring and testing it.
I would like to see a statement from the Royal Navy giving us assurances that all is well. Unless of course things are actually that bad. If they are, what are Senior Officers doing about it.
This budget is by far the most important and if it needs more spending on it then the RN needs to get it's act together.
Of course the boats will break-down now and then, like everything mechanical. I expect them to carry snags for a while here and there. But I expect them to be seaworthy before they depart on patrol.
I would also expect security to be tight and hope our authorities are constantly monitoring and testing it.
I would like to see a statement from the Royal Navy giving us assurances that all is well. Unless of course things are actually that bad. If they are, what are Senior Officers doing about it.
This budget is by far the most important and if it needs more spending on it then the RN needs to get it's act together.
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Do you really expect the MoD to issue "assurances" every time a Junior Rate drips about something that's poxed him off? Not so jolly Jack has soaked in some gash dits about "hairy moments" and made a point of getting drafted to a billet that makes him a bloody "expert". The lad's clearly deranged.
Many of the previous Posts sum this up very well.
Many of the previous Posts sum this up very well.
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GBZ as far as I can tell, with the honourable exception of Whenurhappy, no one else posting in a dismissive, derisory manner has ever been on a boat, don't presume that shouting loudly is enough these days to reassure Joe Public that all is well with the deterrent. None of the posts have disputed the young mans claims. That is a concern.
Tourist your comment is noted. You are on my ignore list from now on.
Tourist your comment is noted. You are on my ignore list from now on.
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