Here it comes: Syria
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Sorry, would that be the same George Galloway that always comes out in favour of everything that is completly against Britain's interests. The anti-British MP?
I heard his speach today and, whilst it was very well constructed and delivered (as always), it carefully sidestepped all the points that had been made, along with most of the facts. He is very good at taking people in - anything to win the votes from people that other MPs and candidates neglect to target, for whatever reason.
Go fish.
I heard his speach today and, whilst it was very well constructed and delivered (as always), it carefully sidestepped all the points that had been made, along with most of the facts. He is very good at taking people in - anything to win the votes from people that other MPs and candidates neglect to target, for whatever reason.
Go fish.
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The e-mails were faked. Britam was hacked but the hacker obviously created the 'smoking gun' e-mail using the header from another e-mail found during the hack.
Everything is the same including the message ID and the time stamp. The only thing changed is the date.
Sirian Issue.eml - Pastebin.com
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Iran ?faked British chemical weapons plot? | The Sunday Times
Syrian e-mails hacked on Britam Defense? - News - Politics - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video
The e-mails were faked. Britam was hacked but the hacker obviously created the 'smoking gun' e-mail using the header from another e-mail found during the hack.
Everything is the same including the message ID and the time stamp. The only thing changed is the date.
Sirian Issue.eml - Pastebin.com
Iranian Issue.eml - Pastebin.com
The hacking of Britam Defence, a company run by former SAS chiefs with many Middle Eastern clients, is being investigated by cybercrime and counterterrorism specialists at Scotland Yard. The security services are also believed to be studying the breach.
Syrian e-mails hacked on Britam Defense? - News - Politics - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video
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Sorry, would that be the same George Galloway that always comes out in favour of everything that is completely against Britain's interests. The anti-British MP?
You may well consider him to be so, but if you'd followed his advice you wouldn't have been part of the stunningly successful Iraq adventure, would you?
George might be bad, and he might be mad, be he has an annoying track record of being right too.
You may well consider him to be so, but if you'd followed his advice you wouldn't have been part of the stunningly successful Iraq adventure, would you?
George might be bad, and he might be mad, be he has an annoying track record of being right too.
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Here it comes: Syria
Forgive my simple thinking as im only a small cog in the very big wheel. But can you even attack a chemical weapons store should we decide to get involved?
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Courtney Mil:
Only if you're Syrian. If you aren't then what responsibility do we have to try to fix the internal squabbles of some other country? This time around we aren't even going in on the grounds that Syria are threatening in any way to use their WMD's externally, (the ones that most likely came from Iraq and maybe a few others they already had), we are planning on going in on the grounds that they allegedly used them against themselves... Sort of like beating yourself over the head with a cricket back and hoping someone will come along to stop you.
Personally, I'm fed up with fixing other people's crap. I have a phrase I use at work a lot. "A screw up on your part does not necessarily mean there's an emergency on mine"...
I think that applies here....
Mate, it is broke.
Personally, I'm fed up with fixing other people's crap. I have a phrase I use at work a lot. "A screw up on your part does not necessarily mean there's an emergency on mine"...
I think that applies here....
air pig,
Much indebted.
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Must try to find that.
p.s. Re my previous: Wasn't sure whether the murder of Litvinenko should be classified as N, B or C.
Technically it was R = radiological as in CBRN protection.
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Must try to find that.
p.s. Re my previous: Wasn't sure whether the murder of Litvinenko should be classified as N, B or C.
Technically it was R = radiological as in CBRN protection.
BBC reporting that Assad's SCUDs are being deployed from their barracks, sensible move, reduce any loss rate and maybe into more protected areas or as Sadam would have done into built up areas.
Glad Rag,
Re you video there. Sorry to be slow in rseponding - 47 minutes to watch.
Excellently briefed, scripted and delivered. All the evidence produced against him was "fake" and there was a lot of "you did it first", etc. about it. What a brilliant speaker. But it does nothing to change my opinion of him.
Re you video there. Sorry to be slow in rseponding - 47 minutes to watch.
Excellently briefed, scripted and delivered. All the evidence produced against him was "fake" and there was a lot of "you did it first", etc. about it. What a brilliant speaker. But it does nothing to change my opinion of him.
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AA,
I don't disagree with anything you say there. But no one can deny, it is broke. My concern is that in today's global environment, nothing this big simply stays inside some imaginary boudaries and has no effect on the rest of the world. I'm not arguing one way or the other at the moment, unlike many here, I would like to see and hear more before I can even start to make my mind up.
I am not for action without knowing the facts so far and without considering the consequences, proposed action and desired end game.
I am not aggainst action until we have a decend assessment of what that may mean to whomsoever carried out this attack.
My cards on the table.
I don't disagree with anything you say there. But no one can deny, it is broke. My concern is that in today's global environment, nothing this big simply stays inside some imaginary boudaries and has no effect on the rest of the world. I'm not arguing one way or the other at the moment, unlike many here, I would like to see and hear more before I can even start to make my mind up.
I am not for action without knowing the facts so far and without considering the consequences, proposed action and desired end game.
I am not aggainst action until we have a decend assessment of what that may mean to whomsoever carried out this attack.
My cards on the table.
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Courts, I wouldn't wish to change any of your opinions, we are all our own men [now] 
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However much as I have learnt to despise both politicians and those associated with revenue collection..... to quote someone much smarter than I...
"he is the complete opposite of our current invidious, emetic and hypocritical politicians and functionally illiterate masses who are told how to think by tabloids."
I don't agree with his politics <70%, but when he stands up and speaks out, [as on the question time program when he denounced the SNP for what they really are], people listen and hopefully open their eyes to the politicians BS.
cheers
gr.
. However much as I have learnt to despise both politicians and those associated with revenue collection..... to quote someone much smarter than I...
"he is the complete opposite of our current invidious, emetic and hypocritical politicians and functionally illiterate masses who are told how to think by tabloids."
I don't agree with his politics <70%, but when he stands up and speaks out, [as on the question time program when he denounced the SNP for what they really are], people listen and hopefully open their eyes to the politicians BS.
cheers
gr.
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Big question now is...
Now the UK's people have spoken in that we want no part of this, how does the USA now stand in regard to utilising UK Sovereign bases to launch such an attack from.. i.e Akrotiri
Posted on the BBC's website comments
Now the UK's people have spoken in that we want no part of this, how does the USA now stand in regard to utilising UK Sovereign bases to launch such an attack from.. i.e Akrotiri
Posted on the BBC's website comments
what a great tw*et in light of the commons vote
Ian Bremmer, US political scientist and president of Eurasia Group research and consulting firm tweets: "Hard earned lesson for Obama on red lines: set them by yourself ...and you're left to enforce them by yourself."
Ian Bremmer, US political scientist and president of Eurasia Group research and consulting firm tweets: "Hard earned lesson for Obama on red lines: set them by yourself ...and you're left to enforce them by yourself."
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Would the US use Ak or even need to ?
The US has history of using UK bases to launch air raids from,
albeit from the UK itself so is it too far to stretch that to OS bases ?
Would the US use Ak or even need to ?
The US has history of using UK bases to launch air raids from,
albeit from the UK itself so is it too far to stretch that to OS bases ?
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I mean that in the past we have allowed UK bases both here and overseas to be used, due to the Vote does that in effect prevent that happening.
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On one Hand I witnessed Milliband and his entourage of ex trots celebrating, and on the other coverage of an Air Force attack napalming a school.
Nobody politically will come out of this well, but if there is another attack resulting in large amounts of deaths, Milliband will be turned upon.
Nobody politically will come out of this well, but if there is another attack resulting in large amounts of deaths, Milliband will be turned upon.