Here it comes: Syria
Lonewolf,
They did not sign the Chemical Weapons Convention, but they did sign the Geneva Protocol. Unfortunately that does prohibit the manufacture or stockpiling of CW, just its use, which some folks seem to think they have.
Syria is a member of the UN and, so, I guess they are bound by the existing resolutions. For example, UN Resolution 1540, which mostly about proliferation, but I haven't read the entire thing so there may well be bits in it about production, stockpiling and deployment.
Like you, just thinking.
They did not sign the Chemical Weapons Convention, but they did sign the Geneva Protocol. Unfortunately that does prohibit the manufacture or stockpiling of CW, just its use, which some folks seem to think they have.
Syria is a member of the UN and, so, I guess they are bound by the existing resolutions. For example, UN Resolution 1540, which mostly about proliferation, but I haven't read the entire thing so there may well be bits in it about production, stockpiling and deployment.
Like you, just thinking.
Here's a thought: is it really "illegal" for there to be a civil war within a country? Think about that: no few nations have been born, or changed, for better and for worse thanks to a war within their own borders, both with and without international participation.
Cameron has a point - if we do nothing now, we in effect legitimize the use of CW. Tricky situation, as I can't imagine what we could possibly achieve through a limited strike, other than either maybe persuading Assad to be more careful or re-double his efforts using conventional forces.
The stakes are also getting very high with many players angling behind the scenes - Israel must be gearing up save they get drawn in (they could use our intervention as a final justification, if ever one was needed to go after Iran).
Quote: Cameron has a point - if we do nothing now, we in effect legitimize the use of CW
I disagree. Why are "WE" the world's policeman? Might as well say "if Switzerland does nothing .................."
Nothing to do with me, count me out, I am not into post-colonial policing, not any more I am not.
Too many potholes in roads round these parts, too few policemen, to squander assets and perhaps lives on foreign adventures to preserve our "status" as a "super power", seat on Security Council etc.
The country may just be wiseing up to the realities.
I disagree. Why are "WE" the world's policeman? Might as well say "if Switzerland does nothing .................."
Nothing to do with me, count me out, I am not into post-colonial policing, not any more I am not.
Too many potholes in roads round these parts, too few policemen, to squander assets and perhaps lives on foreign adventures to preserve our "status" as a "super power", seat on Security Council etc.
The country may just be wiseing up to the realities.
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Cameron is certainly worked up over not being allowed to do
what he wants to do.
I see he acknowledges the public not believing anything they are
told any more.
what he wants to do.
I see he acknowledges the public not believing anything they are
told any more.
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Statements from the UN are saying that their CW team is only out in Syria to determine if in fact an attack took place, not to determine who did it!
The whole political posturing game is turning into a circus.
Bob C
The whole political posturing game is turning into a circus.
Bob C
W H A T ???????
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
I believe the London reference Basil made was to the assassination of that chap in london with the poisoned brolley or whatever it was.
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Either way, I don't think the chap cared which it was.
The Russians have used "Chemical Weapons" in the past, there was the attempt to free those hostages using a none lethal gas, but it proved far from it.
Chemical Weapons in Russia: History, Ecology, Politics
The Russians have used "Chemical Weapons" in the past, there was the attempt to free those hostages using a none lethal gas, but it proved far from it.
Chemical Weapons in Russia: History, Ecology, Politics
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if you take the law into your own hands doesn't that make you a vigilante? and how often are vigilantes found to have beaten up the wrong guy?
The UN is the nearest thing to the world court/police. unless they decide action is required, keep the hell away.
The UN is the nearest thing to the world court/police. unless they decide action is required, keep the hell away.
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Dire as the situation there is, it's hard to see how it will be improved by lobbing missiles in. It's also striking to see just how little enthusiasm there is for this adventure even on a military forum!
George Galloway and David Davis were brilliant in the commons today.
p.s. Re my previous: Wasn't sure whether the murder of Litvinenko should be classified as N, B or C.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Shot, are you implying that those in a military forum should be all in favour of lobbing their toys around?
The raison d'etre for British Servicemen is to prevent wars not cause them. However if needs be they would wish to be peace making forces rather than peace keeping ones.
Another lack of enthusiasm might be attributed to the continued cuts in capability.
The raison d'etre for British Servicemen is to prevent wars not cause them. However if needs be they would wish to be peace making forces rather than peace keeping ones.
Another lack of enthusiasm might be attributed to the continued cuts in capability.
Eclectic: There has always been a U2 detachment at Akortiri Don't know if its used as a transit point to the airbase at Al Dafra in the UAE. This is not new news, in fact if you look at pprune its been a subject over a number of years.
Pointius, another PoV from the ranks would be
"If you are going to have me kill people and blow things up, and put my but in the vicinity of high speed lead, the least you can do is have a good reason to do so."
"If you are going to have me kill people and blow things up, and put my but in the vicinity of high speed lead, the least you can do is have a good reason to do so."
Basil:
Technically it was R = radiological as in CBRN protection.
Must try to find that.
p.s. Re my previous: Wasn't sure whether the murder of Litvinenko should be classified as N, B or C.
p.s. Re my previous: Wasn't sure whether the murder of Litvinenko should be classified as N, B or C.