The blessed Margaret ..
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Totally agree, it's deplorable and one cannot understand why people can get so angry about something they haven't a clue about.
For a Lady not for turning, she'd be turning in her grave if she could see the dross that is being written and spouted about her after her passing.... No wonder her Children have no plans to move back to the UK.
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For a Lady not for turning, she'd be turning in her grave if she could see the dross that is being written and spouted about her after her passing.... No wonder her Children have no plans to move back to the UK.
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Higher rates 83% reduced to 40%
Basic Rated 33% to 25%
43% reduction for high earners vs 8% reduction for the every day working man/woman.
Factor in inflation 21.9% in 1980 and it looks like the wealthy - poor gap considerably widened.
The %age of people below the median income (a measure of poverty) increased from 13.4% to 22.2%.
Teh inequality score raised from 0.253 to 0.339 under Thatcher's term as PM.
People talk about today's squeezed middle classes, the working classes have been being squeezed for decades. Their voice (for better or worse) was the Unions - which she crushed.
Basic Rated 33% to 25%
43% reduction for high earners vs 8% reduction for the every day working man/woman.
Factor in inflation 21.9% in 1980 and it looks like the wealthy - poor gap considerably widened.
The %age of people below the median income (a measure of poverty) increased from 13.4% to 22.2%.
Teh inequality score raised from 0.253 to 0.339 under Thatcher's term as PM.
People talk about today's squeezed middle classes, the working classes have been being squeezed for decades. Their voice (for better or worse) was the Unions - which she crushed.
Originally Posted by Dak Man
the median income (a measure of poverty)
The median is the numerical value separating the higher half of a data sample from the lower half. You find the median of a list of numbers by arranging them all from lowest to highest, and picking the middle one.
That's not a measure of poverty, that's a measure of income distribution.
It would work on billionaires.
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It would appear that quite a few Brixton party goers were not born when PM Thatcher was pushed out of office.
Margaret Thatcher death parties: The Left's sick 'celebration' on Brixton's streets | Mail Online
Margaret Thatcher death parties: The Left's sick 'celebration' on Brixton's streets | Mail Online
Dak Man,
Please go and find a soapbox on another website. Not only are your posts invariably inaccurate, but they are extremely tiresome.
I'm sure you can find some better synergy for your views elsewhere than on this page, where most of us are simply trying to remember with respect a great leader.
Please go and find a soapbox on another website. Not only are your posts invariably inaccurate, but they are extremely tiresome.
I'm sure you can find some better synergy for your views elsewhere than on this page, where most of us are simply trying to remember with respect a great leader.
Once again, using the sad death of a national leader to make pointless political points. Disrespectful and petty. Just leave it, if you please. Feel free to take your political ranting and point scoring elsewhere. There are plenty of sites that will welcome your militant lack of sense of occasion. As was said today, there's something unattractive about it.
Have some sense of decency.
Have some sense of decency.
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The reaction of those actively celebrating her death is abhorrent. Whatever one thinks of her politics or persona such behaviour says more about the 'protester' then anything else. I did like one comment I read earlier that said Maggie herself would probably be pleased to see such reaction as it must mean that she made a difference (or 'won' as the article somewhat provocatively put it). As she is said to have commented herself "I would be remembered as someone who did something in politics rather than someone who was somebody in politics" I am not sure all of our current crop (any party) would pass that test...
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BBC News - Test-tube baby pioneer Sir Robert Edwards dies
This man is more blessed than Margret Thatcher ever will be to the general population of this country.. He deserves a state funeral IMHO..
This man is more blessed than Margret Thatcher ever will be to the general population of this country.. He deserves a state funeral IMHO..
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Interesting that the armed forces role link states:
"In accordance with Lady Thatcher’s wishes, a flypast will not take place."
"In accordance with Lady Thatcher’s wishes, a flypast will not take place."
However, we all know that the marginal cost of a flypast is pretty low, probably almost zero on a normal working day. They can almost be considered valuable training (time on target - no pressure!).
This could be rather awkward for the RAF... the public will take the 'too expensive' reports at face value, and then question why, if a flypast is a waste of money for Maggie's funeral, it's OK at things like passing-out parades, military tattoos and assorted sports events graced by RAFAT. On the other hand, if flypasts are cheap, she should have known that, and perhaps was just indifferent to the Air Force! How do you spin those possibilities?!
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I think that the powers that be, need to ignore issues that might conflate public opinion and just get on with it. As many say the cost of diverting a few aircraft down the Mall is minimal, when the alternative is the Mach Loop. I just hope that someone in"organising" mode has the b@lls to sort something out. As for her wishes, well maybe she was misguided as to costs.
How encouraging to see how well our MPs conducted themselves in the debate yesterday - especially those that would ordinarily have been staunch critics of Lady Thatcher. I also take my hat off to those that didn't feel they could support the occasion and that stayed away rather than attend and make disrespectful remarks.
What a shame that some of you couldn't apply the same rules of common decency here. But I suppose there will always be some who have neither the manners nor the grace to know when to keep quiet. I don't suppose you care, but by your actions you simply make yourselves look like boorish, uneducated imbeciles. IMHO.
What a shame that some of you couldn't apply the same rules of common decency here. But I suppose there will always be some who have neither the manners nor the grace to know when to keep quiet. I don't suppose you care, but by your actions you simply make yourselves look like boorish, uneducated imbeciles. IMHO.
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How encouraging to see how well our MPs conducted themselves in the debate yesterday - especially those that would ordinarily have been staunch critics of Lady Thatcher. I also take my hat off to those that didn't feel they could support the occasion and that stayed away rather than attend and make disrespectful remarks.
What a shame that some of you couldn't apply the same rules of common decency here. But I suppose there will always be some who have neither the manners nor the grace to know when to keep quiet. I don't suppose you care, but by your actions you simply make yourselves look like boorish, uneducated imbeciles. IMHO.
What a shame that some of you couldn't apply the same rules of common decency here. But I suppose there will always be some who have neither the manners nor the grace to know when to keep quiet. I don't suppose you care, but by your actions you simply make yourselves look like boorish, uneducated imbeciles. IMHO.
Shame on folks that think it clever to highlight what they believe are faults in this lady so quickly after she has died.
Is it clever? Are they that arrogant that they believe they have some sort of right to be this rude.
How about they keep quiet for a few weeks and then come out with some constructive criticisms?
Just me thinking aloud and I consider myself fortunate to be privy to some of her deeds that make her a FAR, far better person than these morons that insist on being so rude.
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well... the Lady herself wasn't one to pull punches out of "respect" - she told it the way she saw it - so complaining other people are doing it to her seems a bit OTT TBH
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I was not going to come back on this but PLEASE do not judge anyone else by your standards. That woman might well have more compassion than you wrongly believe she had.
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