RAF Rivet Joint
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Is Rivet Joint classified as an "Historic Aircraft" by MoD? One of the criteria for such a designation is (or used to be, circa 2002) "incomplete design or testing information, or when maintenance records are missing"; which would seem to apply.
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From: Lincs
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Rivet Joint was not cleared to taxi via the southern loop at Waddo because of potential FOD issues - the engines sit slightly lower than an E-3 and the risk of ingestion on Echo dispersal was deemed too great, hence the shutdown and tow at the end of the runway.
Rivet Joint was not cleared to taxi via the southern loop at Waddo because of potential FOD issues - the engines sit slightly lower than an E-3 and the risk of ingestion on Echo dispersal was deemed too great, hence the shutdown and tow at the end of the runway.
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From: Hotel Gypsy
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Perhaps someone will query why the RAF cannot refuel its own RC-135s?
Certainly some of the Voyagers still to be delivered should be boom-equipped - so that the UK could support its own C-17s and RC-135s?
Certainly some of the Voyagers still to be delivered should be boom-equipped - so that the UK could support its own C-17s and RC-135s?
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From: Leicestershire, England
Airworthiness/certification rears it's head again...
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From: Here
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From: USA
Was the Whistleblowing Yanky correct at POST #504?
Airworthiness/certification rears it's head again...
UK launches new Rivet Joint flight test programme - IHS Jane's 360
(EXCERPT from Chapter 21)
“ I intended to post the remaining sixty-three pages of my Congressional disclosure to this chapter, but the remaining sixty-three pages contain aircraft technical data protected by either the Export Administrations Act of 1979 (Title 50) or the Arms Export Control Act (Title 22). Absent this technical data, the remaining sixty-three pages would inaccurately reflect the other substantiated aircraft maintenance problems of the 55th Wing [RC-135s].”
It is possible that the MAA petitioned the U.S. Congress for the remaining sixty-three pages of the whistleblowers' 2008 disclosure. The USAF utilizes a computer based aircraft maintenance data collection system named “CAMS” an acronym for "Consolidated Aircraft Maintenance System". The maintenance history of every RC-135, as well as the maintenance history of 64-14827, 64-14828, and 64-14829 is accessible through CAMS. CAMS is a useful instrument to those who know how to use it properly. Research of Work Unit Code (WUC) 42210 could be interesting.
UK launches new Rivet Joint flight test programme - IHS Jane's 360
(EXCERPT from Chapter 21)
“ I intended to post the remaining sixty-three pages of my Congressional disclosure to this chapter, but the remaining sixty-three pages contain aircraft technical data protected by either the Export Administrations Act of 1979 (Title 50) or the Arms Export Control Act (Title 22). Absent this technical data, the remaining sixty-three pages would inaccurately reflect the other substantiated aircraft maintenance problems of the 55th Wing [RC-135s].”
It is possible that the MAA petitioned the U.S. Congress for the remaining sixty-three pages of the whistleblowers' 2008 disclosure. The USAF utilizes a computer based aircraft maintenance data collection system named “CAMS” an acronym for "Consolidated Aircraft Maintenance System". The maintenance history of every RC-135, as well as the maintenance history of 64-14827, 64-14828, and 64-14829 is accessible through CAMS. CAMS is a useful instrument to those who know how to use it properly. Research of Work Unit Code (WUC) 42210 could be interesting.
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From: UK
Alternatively why would the USAF take a UK-based frontline KC-135 and instrument it and then de-instrument it rather than use a KC already destined to be gutted and modified at the same location that is undertaking all the trials and instrumentation activity?
Still, knowing the procurement world anything could happen but the KCs destined for RJ conversion are not from the desert, they have come directly from the in-use USAF tanker fleet.
Still, knowing the procurement world anything could happen but the KCs destined for RJ conversion are not from the desert, they have come directly from the in-use USAF tanker fleet.
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They are the youngest KCs in the USAF inventory, and have been in service as tankers until they went into the conversion scheme - one was used in ops in Lybya, and the last is still in service, and visited the UK in company with the B2s in June:
Photos: Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker (717-148) Aircraft Pictures | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and in February
Photos: Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker (717-148) Aircraft Pictures | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: USA
To: Lordflasheart
42210 - DC POWER DISTRIBUTION. ?
Lordflasheart – I have erred. The WUC should have read 41000. The CAMS record on a particular controversial WCE is wrong and got past my scrutiny. I guess that’s mud on myface. Thanks for the fact check. Perhaps CAMS is not at all reliable and the MAA is correct in demanding some aspects of the aircraft’s flight envelope to be validated.
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From: The Roman Empire
"This one is for pilots thanks very much"
Implying pilots only. But is that actually the case?
"A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here."
Implying pilots only. But is that actually the case?
"A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here."
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From: Lincolnshire
"This one is for pilots thanks very much"
Oh dear
From your majestic, inward looking position as an all powerful God, just be aware that like a pyramid, the glittering capstone is built upon a solid support structure, the likes of which, if not there, would leave the capstone fully suspended on solid ground....
Oh dear
From your majestic, inward looking position as an all powerful God, just be aware that like a pyramid, the glittering capstone is built upon a solid support structure, the likes of which, if not there, would leave the capstone fully suspended on solid ground....
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From: Hampshire
This thread is a perfect distillation of Pprune:
Conspiracy theorists
Holier-than-thou know-alls
Pedants who can't read between the lines and have to take every written word as gospel.
What fun!
Oh, and they all add up to the dictionary definition of 'the vocal minority'.
Conspiracy theorists
Holier-than-thou know-alls
Pedants who can't read between the lines and have to take every written word as gospel.
What fun!
Oh, and they all add up to the dictionary definition of 'the vocal minority'.