RAF Rivet Joint
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D notice
Did Fly Fisher manage to get his D Notice placed?
Do we know what paperwork was used to this fly this jet into the secret airbase near Lincoln and when are we going to reap the benefit by flying the thing?
Do we know what paperwork was used to this fly this jet into the secret airbase near Lincoln and when are we going to reap the benefit by flying the thing?
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From: Wiltshire
The only problem with BCE is they are so anti aviation that doesn't belong to them that being a lodger is totally useless and far to much trouble, ask those that have left ( and those that are trying to use it?)
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Crew training
X referring to the thread on the training pipeline being clogged got me wondering about crewing the back end in future years when all the Nimrod guys have retired. Is it necessary that the folks that sit down the back are actually in the RAF? I think I saw on here that there was some seedcorn activity going on with our US partners. Not to be confused with the MPA Seed corners.
If it's not classified can someone say if there is a "4th Aircraft" RCT for training as part of the AirSeeker "system"
If it's not classified can someone say if there is a "4th Aircraft" RCT for training as part of the AirSeeker "system"
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From: Vienna, Virginia
Reply to dragartist
Backend crew on the RJs need to be military. Various international laws and military regs make it difficult to fly "other-than-military" on a military mission. If you have 'civilians' on a reconnaissance flight then you could be considered a "spy" vs. "reconnaissance" mission. Very BIG differences on how that is treated under international law. (One reason you never see "spy" used to officially describe any reconnaissance platform-U-2, SR-71, RC-135s, etc. Only the sensationalist press uses "spy plane" in this context). You can fly members of other services to fill the backend seats if you need the experience, but they need training on the system and equipment. I don't see how that ameliorates the training problem.
RJ crewmembers also undergo all the usual aircrew training: altitude chamber, egress training, etc.
Bottom line: Plan to train the crewmembers you need to accomplish the mission. Having enough linguists in the more esoteric languages, who can be aircrew, is always a problem. In that case you fly with a less than full-up crew.
RJ crewmembers also undergo all the usual aircrew training: altitude chamber, egress training, etc.
Bottom line: Plan to train the crewmembers you need to accomplish the mission. Having enough linguists in the more esoteric languages, who can be aircrew, is always a problem. In that case you fly with a less than full-up crew.
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From: Under a recently defunct flight path.
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From: Manchester, UK
Of course it's not a "spy plane". Only baddies have spy planes. We have reconnaissance aircraft.
Ps, novanav, how would a civilian involved in the air refuelling of a military attack be regarded under international law?
Ps, novanav, how would a civilian involved in the air refuelling of a military attack be regarded under international law?
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Ps, novanav, how would a civilian involved in the air refuelling of a military attack be regarded under international law?
Merry Christmas to all, including the Geese. Hope you get flying again soon.
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