RAF Rivet Joint
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From: Island of Aphrodite
Flight Magazine
The first of the 3 Rivet Joint / Airseekers for the RAF touched down at RAF Waddington at about 0940 this morning.
Quite important UK Military Aviation News I would have thought. But nothing yet on the UK’s Premier Aviation magazine’s web site.
BD
PS Don't worry. Doesn't matter, Flight has mentioned the second A400M for the Armee de l’Air.
Quite important UK Military Aviation News I would have thought. But nothing yet on the UK’s Premier Aviation magazine’s web site.
BD
PS Don't worry. Doesn't matter, Flight has mentioned the second A400M for the Armee de l’Air.
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From: Old Hampshire
[quoteThis will now be the challenge and will be the key issue is getting 664 into the air again over the coming months - though my guess is it is highly unlikely to fly again in '13 and perhaps well into '14.
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Sod's Law will ensure it'll now be broken during Anti-Det maintenance, or some component unobtainable from the supply chain will go out of life during the time the PT and the MAA will take putting all the paperwork for RAF flights in place.
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Sod's Law will ensure it'll now be broken during Anti-Det maintenance, or some component unobtainable from the supply chain will go out of life during the time the PT and the MAA will take putting all the paperwork for RAF flights in place.
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From: Mos Eisley
The first of the 3 Rivet Joint / Airseekers for the RAF touched down at RAF Waddington at about 0940 this morning
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From: Lincolnshire
the 51Sqn 'toy' is now on a refuelling stop Bangor with an arrival time still circa 0
Is it too much to ask for others not to post accurate flight timings and details on a public forum? Blimey.
Or did I miss the memo where OPSEC was discarded? Has it really just gone away now? Bead...frickin'...window!
If, however, OPSEC doesn't apply to you, (your missus, her tennis partners and their friends, etc)....kindly disregard and keep posting other people's detailed business to your hearts content.
But it would be greatly appreciated if you didn't...!
TM
Or did I miss the memo where OPSEC was discarded? Has it really just gone away now? Bead...frickin'...window!
If, however, OPSEC doesn't apply to you, (your missus, her tennis partners and their friends, etc)....kindly disregard and keep posting other people's detailed business to your hearts content.
But it would be greatly appreciated if you didn't...!
TM
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From: South Africa
Flight International might not mention it but.........
U.K. Takes Delivery Of First RC-135 Rivet Joint
U.K. Takes Delivery Of First RC-135 Rivet Joint
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From: London
Good to see the journos getting it right
First British rivet joint aircraft delivered to RAF Waddington | This is Lincolnshire
First British rivet joint aircraft delivered to RAF Waddington | This is Lincolnshire
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From: East Sussex UK
RAF Press Release here ...
RAF Airseeker Arrival
Image Credit : MOD RAF
Air Vice-Marshal Phil Osborn, Director of Capability at Joint Forces Command said ...
“The delivery of the first of 3 Rivet Joint aircraft to the UK is a critical step in the re-establishment of a world class UK airborne signals intelligence capability. I know that the RAF and Defence are looking forward to operating this key capability and building on the unique history of 51 Squadron. We plan to have our AIRSEEKER programme comprising all 3 Rivet Joint aircraft, with their highly skilled aircrew, groundcrew and analysts, fully operational by mid-2017.”
“The delivery of the first of 3 Rivet Joint aircraft to the UK is a critical step in the re-establishment of a world class UK airborne signals intelligence capability. I know that the RAF and Defence are looking forward to operating this key capability and building on the unique history of 51 Squadron. We plan to have our AIRSEEKER programme comprising all 3 Rivet Joint aircraft, with their highly skilled aircrew, groundcrew and analysts, fully operational by mid-2017.”
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From: West Sussex
LJ:-
It's Military Law not to make a false written statement or certification. That applies to all that are subject to Military Law, in particular it applied to ACAS. He received a CAR from Controller Aircraft that granted "Switch on Only" clearance for the Chinook HC2. Apart from being an almost useless Controller Aircraft Release, and possibly unique, it made the aircraft effectively inoperable other than for ground training purposes only. You could switch on the comms/nav suite but not use it let alone rely on it.
Despite that, ACAS signed an RTS and the aircraft went into Sqn service, even though it was still undergoing the BD testing regime, who as we now know grounded their aircraft because it was "positively dangerous" and urged the RAF to do the same. The very next day ZD576 crashed, killing all 29 on board.
I believe that the RTS procedure is now different and under the auspices of the MAA. The above arrangement was supposed to be foolproof, as both men (CA and ACAS) had to sign together that the aircraft type was airworthy and fit for service. It would seem that the system, the men and the aircraft all failed that test. The system has been altered but is still compromised in that the operator (MOD) issues its own RTS's (via the MAA). Neither the accident nor the actions of ACAS have yet been properly investigated, despite evidence being supplied to Haddon-Cave, Lord Philip, and the Provost Marshal.
Could I ask you to clarify where in UK Law it legislates military RTS? I'm just curious what deemed it illegal.
Despite that, ACAS signed an RTS and the aircraft went into Sqn service, even though it was still undergoing the BD testing regime, who as we now know grounded their aircraft because it was "positively dangerous" and urged the RAF to do the same. The very next day ZD576 crashed, killing all 29 on board.
I believe that the RTS procedure is now different and under the auspices of the MAA. The above arrangement was supposed to be foolproof, as both men (CA and ACAS) had to sign together that the aircraft type was airworthy and fit for service. It would seem that the system, the men and the aircraft all failed that test. The system has been altered but is still compromised in that the operator (MOD) issues its own RTS's (via the MAA). Neither the accident nor the actions of ACAS have yet been properly investigated, despite evidence being supplied to Haddon-Cave, Lord Philip, and the Provost Marshal.