Kinloss glows in the dark.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: @exRAF_Al
Posts: 3,297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Kinloss glows in the dark.
BBC News - Investigation into radioactive contamination concerns at RAF Kinloss
Bet they can't wait..!
.. a review of the quality of the land at RAF Kinloss was already under way, ahead of the transfer of the base to the Army.
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Australia - South of where I'd like to be !
Age: 59
Posts: 4,261
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Reminds me of a certain suburb here which made a big song and dance
about Nuclear Free Zone when it was all trendy, putting up signs and
everything else.
One sign as you entered the suburb was right out the front of the Hospital
and if you looked at the hospital entrance, you would see the names of the
departments - including X Ray and Radiology !
about Nuclear Free Zone when it was all trendy, putting up signs and
everything else.
One sign as you entered the suburb was right out the front of the Hospital
and if you looked at the hospital entrance, you would see the names of the
departments - including X Ray and Radiology !
More bang for your buck
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: land of the clanger
Age: 82
Posts: 3,512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
This sounds typical of the BBC, making environmental mountains out of molehills, deliberately hyped up to stir up the locals before any proper survey of the extent of the problem is conducted, as well as expecting the MOD to have applied today's level of safety and envoiromental risk documentation at the end of a war that had killed several million people. 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,923
Received 2,845 Likes
on
1,215 Posts
No problem, they could bottle the local water and sell it as Peckham Spring 
Last edited by NutLoose; 19th May 2012 at 10:10.
When I started flying we had U/V, Red lights and Luminous markings in the cockpit. With a total electric failure at night, no standbye, one flew with your nose agains the luminous markings on the instruments.
Years ago the Standardisers insisted that helicopter pilots moved around an active dispersal with their helmets removed to prevent them walking into tail rotors. As a result of this I was awarded a lump sum (£4,500) for subsequent hearing loss.
HOW MUCH CAN I CLAIM FOR BEING SUBJECTED TO RADIOACTIVE EMISSIONS?
Years ago the Standardisers insisted that helicopter pilots moved around an active dispersal with their helmets removed to prevent them walking into tail rotors. As a result of this I was awarded a lump sum (£4,500) for subsequent hearing loss.
HOW MUCH CAN I CLAIM FOR BEING SUBJECTED TO RADIOACTIVE EMISSIONS?
Last edited by Fareastdriver; 19th May 2012 at 12:36.
No problem, they could bottle the local water and sell it as Peckham Spring 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 2,584
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
As if the amount of radium involved in even a thousand aircraft was significant. On the same proportions as squealing "drowning hazard" when they find a damp tissue...
This is surely just another idiotic example of the massive job creation scheme that is the scottish parliament and all the stupidity that goes with it. All they want is $squillions in "compensation" from the MoD for a pointless job-creation "clean-up" and a big dollop of smug self publicity for the risibly named scottish Environmental Protection Agency. And, of course, never miss an opportunity to take a cheap shot at the "English" for being the cause of all their problems. As if.
What a pointless, stupid, criminal waste of money all that doubled-up bureaucracy is in a recession when we should be reducing the parasites in government, not generating entire new species of them!
This is surely just another idiotic example of the massive job creation scheme that is the scottish parliament and all the stupidity that goes with it. All they want is $squillions in "compensation" from the MoD for a pointless job-creation "clean-up" and a big dollop of smug self publicity for the risibly named scottish Environmental Protection Agency. And, of course, never miss an opportunity to take a cheap shot at the "English" for being the cause of all their problems. As if.
What a pointless, stupid, criminal waste of money all that doubled-up bureaucracy is in a recession when we should be reducing the parasites in government, not generating entire new species of them!
Last edited by Agaricus bisporus; 19th May 2012 at 17:39.
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,923
Received 2,845 Likes
on
1,215 Posts
I seem to remember Basingstoke had similar problems with the site of an old Smiths Factory that produced wartime instruments.
Found it
http://www2.basingstoke.gov.uk/test/...4/00842465.PDF
Found it
http://www2.basingstoke.gov.uk/test/...4/00842465.PDF
Last edited by NutLoose; 19th May 2012 at 18:10.
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Kilmarnock,United Kingdom
Age: 68
Posts: 340
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
"What a pointless, stupid, criminal waste of money all that doubled-up bureaucracy is in a recession"
In their favour, our MSP's are amalgamating all the current Police Services in favour of an all Scottish one with the Fire Service next in line. Do not be surprised if soon after that, the many pointless District Councils we were landed with (by the last Conservative Government) in 1997 go. With an Edinburgh Parliament, there's not a lot left for them to do.
BTW SEPA apply the Law as it applies across the UK. The issue at Kinloss is over land already sold by the MOD and doubt that required procedures were carried out to render it usable by others. This differs from the problem at Dalgety Bay in Fife where surplus WW2 aircraft had been dumped and radium particles are now being found on the beach.
In their favour, our MSP's are amalgamating all the current Police Services in favour of an all Scottish one with the Fire Service next in line. Do not be surprised if soon after that, the many pointless District Councils we were landed with (by the last Conservative Government) in 1997 go. With an Edinburgh Parliament, there's not a lot left for them to do.
BTW SEPA apply the Law as it applies across the UK. The issue at Kinloss is over land already sold by the MOD and doubt that required procedures were carried out to render it usable by others. This differs from the problem at Dalgety Bay in Fife where surplus WW2 aircraft had been dumped and radium particles are now being found on the beach.
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Kilmarnock,United Kingdom
Age: 68
Posts: 340
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It's probably "news" because someone chose to make it so. Issuing a press release to drum up media interest not too long after the Dalgety Bay story cant help but keep SEPA in the Public eye when it's Budget is under scrutiny!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: @exRAF_Al
Posts: 3,297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Blister Agent too..?
BBC News - Chemical weapon 'risk' at RAF Kinloss in Moray
Stashes found near Cott a while back as I recall.
BBC News - Chemical weapon 'risk' at RAF Kinloss in Moray
RAF Kinloss authorities knew the public could be at risk from chemical weapons buried near the base, according to documents obtained by BBC Scotland. The Moray base is already the focus of an investigation into radioactive contamination. A 2004 land quality assessment also warned sulphur mustard chemical weapons may be present within landfill and waste areas accessible to the public.
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: korat thailand
Age: 83
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Trimphone glows also
There was also some concern about the luminescent dial that glowed green in the dark. This effect came from a small glass tube of tritium gas, which gave off beta radiation and made the dial fluoresce. Although the radioactivity was equivalent only to that given off by a wristwatch it was felt wise to withdraw this facility as public concern over radioactivity grew.
Trimphone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wonder where all the old ones are stored.
Trimphone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wonder where all the old ones are stored.
Ah yes, the good old Trimphone! We had a couple of those back in the early 1970s.
A little known feature was that the microphone wasn't at the end of the handset, there was a transducer somewhere in the middle of the handset connected by a stethoscope-type tube to the speaking end. So if someone put their hand over the 'microphone' to prevent you hearing what they were saying to a third party, you could in fact still hear every word!
A little known feature was that the microphone wasn't at the end of the handset, there was a transducer somewhere in the middle of the handset connected by a stethoscope-type tube to the speaking end. So if someone put their hand over the 'microphone' to prevent you hearing what they were saying to a third party, you could in fact still hear every word!
Last edited by BEagle; 20th May 2012 at 19:29.
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Swindon, Wilts,UK
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Wonder where all the old ones are stored.
Some were buried at Harwell, recently they were dug up, there was a great big inflatable tent erected over the excavations whilst they were removed and sent to Sellafield, where I believe they were dismantled and the Tritium recovered.
Apparently Harwell had broken the disposal regs by burying them, and were fined by Wantage Magistrates court.
Last edited by Windy Militant; 20th May 2012 at 19:29.
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,923
Received 2,845 Likes
on
1,215 Posts
Ahhh the Trimphone, not deemed a hazard as such on its own, so what did they do when disposing of them, they put them all together, thus making them a Hazard. 