Fears for Pentagon air power as Iran claims drone capture
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Fox News has done its best to play down this claim but even they have now had to recognise what has happened.
One official told Fox News on Thursday that the incident is a huge loss and makes the top-secret helicopter tail lost during the Usama bin Laden raid in Pakistan "look like a pittance." The official said there are real fears the Iranians will share this technology with the Russians and the Chinese, in addition to using it themselves.
One official told Fox News on Thursday that the incident is a huge loss and makes the top-secret helicopter tail lost during the Usama bin Laden raid in Pakistan "look like a pittance." The official said there are real fears the Iranians will share this technology with the Russians and the Chinese, in addition to using it themselves.
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now they can telepathically read my mind what next?
Anything else we can deduce from the pics?
now they can telepathically read my mind what next? Anything else we can deduce from the pics?
Oh, God. We've got two parallel universes going in here. This and the thread about the huge bomb thing.
Anyway, Chopper2004, did you think that the opening pictures looked like a tiny scale model? And then the other pictures looked like a different scale? I did. Just doesn't look right somehow.
Anyway, Chopper2004, did you think that the opening pictures looked like a tiny scale model? And then the other pictures looked like a different scale? I did. Just doesn't look right somehow.
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Tbh I wasn't sure until Bosseye put me in the right direction that the pic with personnel around, that it looked too presentable too tidy and the flags and curtain behind it appeared as a diorama.
And the sceptIsm / disbelief behind their claim to have shot down a UAV a Sentinel of all things at the beginning could have been seen as propaganda?
Tbh I wasn't sure until Bosseye put me in the right direction that the pic with personnel around, that it looked too presentable too tidy and the flags and curtain behind it appeared as a diorama.
And the sceptIsm / disbelief behind their claim to have shot down a UAV a Sentinel of all things at the beginning could have been seen as propaganda?
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After watching that a couple times, some observations.
Looks like it's been painted in primer. The color and gloss of the paint just doesn't look like something of US origin.
Looks like the wings have fallen off and been stuck back on - looking at the lumps/lines just outboard of the overwing pod structures.
Appears to be a dent/hole in the leading edge of the left wing.
Interesting that the underside is shrouded in banners.
My guess - it crashed and broke up. The Iranians stuck it all back together and had to prop it up on something to make it appear to be in one piece as the undercarriage was damaged beyond use. The banners conceal this structure. They then repainted it to conceal scorch marks/scratches/scrapes etc.
Looks like it's been painted in primer. The color and gloss of the paint just doesn't look like something of US origin.
Looks like the wings have fallen off and been stuck back on - looking at the lumps/lines just outboard of the overwing pod structures.
Appears to be a dent/hole in the leading edge of the left wing.
Interesting that the underside is shrouded in banners.
My guess - it crashed and broke up. The Iranians stuck it all back together and had to prop it up on something to make it appear to be in one piece as the undercarriage was damaged beyond use. The banners conceal this structure. They then repainted it to conceal scorch marks/scratches/scrapes etc.
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If America is now finally admitting they have lost this UAV and the Iranians have claimed they have recovered it then what are we suggesting?
I have never seen one of these so called stealth drones but I was disappointed to see how flimsy the thing looks but the bottom line is the US admits it is their vehicle......
It is surprising that a foreign Power can over-ride the signal of the operator and then amazingly, this foreign power can then allegedly take control of the aircraft and land the thing. First North Korea capture a US Intelligence Gathering ship click here Then of course we recently had the Chinese capture an EP-3E click here
Fox News is what I call a US propaganda channel as opposed from a News channel. At first they were adamant that the US military had lost their UAV over Afghanistan but now even this broadcaster is confirming this act. Surely it has to be accepted Iran really does have this UAV especially as the US are not denying any of the reports. Click this
Does the thing look 'wonky' because it has been gutted and is now held together by Gaffa tape? I have looked on Ebay but so far 'No trace' of any bits and pieces of ex US high tech hardware.
I have never seen one of these so called stealth drones but I was disappointed to see how flimsy the thing looks but the bottom line is the US admits it is their vehicle......
It is surprising that a foreign Power can over-ride the signal of the operator and then amazingly, this foreign power can then allegedly take control of the aircraft and land the thing. First North Korea capture a US Intelligence Gathering ship click here Then of course we recently had the Chinese capture an EP-3E click here
Fox News is what I call a US propaganda channel as opposed from a News channel. At first they were adamant that the US military had lost their UAV over Afghanistan but now even this broadcaster is confirming this act. Surely it has to be accepted Iran really does have this UAV especially as the US are not denying any of the reports. Click this
Does the thing look 'wonky' because it has been gutted and is now held together by Gaffa tape? I have looked on Ebay but so far 'No trace' of any bits and pieces of ex US high tech hardware.
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looks to me like some kind of attempt at misdirection. Send in a cheapo plastic model and let the Iranians think they've captured something useful, while at the same time keep the real ones flying safely
If the enemy is looking for the wrong aircraft it won't find the right one
If the enemy is looking for the wrong aircraft it won't find the right one
looks to me like some kind of attempt at misdirection. Send in a cheapo plastic model and let the Iranians think they've captured something useful, while at the same time keep the real ones flying safely
If the enemy is looking for the wrong aircraft it won't find the right one
If the enemy is looking for the wrong aircraft it won't find the right one
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I thought the same until I saw those photos - the aircraft simply looks like a cheap model, and I don't believe that paint job. Its almost as if they wanted it shot down.
Of course history would favour the SNAFU model. After all, the CIA have past history at this - Gary Powers and the other Taiwanese U-2 losses
Of course history would favour the SNAFU model. After all, the CIA have past history at this - Gary Powers and the other Taiwanese U-2 losses
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Not too shabby an idea.
What will let it down will be some blabber mouth in the US Gov't crowing about duping the Iranian's.
Not too shabby an idea.
What will let it down will be some blabber mouth in the US Gov't crowing about duping the Iranian's.
On the militaryphotos.net website, on the recent pages, theres close up photos of the vehicle on display and someone's superimposed what the dimensions could be as the air force chief of staff is standing beside it.
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/2927/rq1705.jpg
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/2927/rq1705.jpg
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It does look "plasticy"
What are the 2 lumps on either side of the air intake / engine ?
I haven't seen them on any other photos of the various UAV's
so if someone can point me in the direction, it would be appreciated.
I am still very skeptical that this is the real deal. at this stage I'll hold back my judgement as jamesdevice's suggestion has some merit.
What are the 2 lumps on either side of the air intake / engine ?
I haven't seen them on any other photos of the various UAV's
so if someone can point me in the direction, it would be appreciated.
I am still very skeptical that this is the real deal. at this stage I'll hold back my judgement as jamesdevice's suggestion has some merit.
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Excuse the thread drift and along the lines of conspiracy theories but what are the chances of TWO Nige's, both from Brum, one currently located on the other side of the world, posting one after the other on the same thread.
I'm sure SAM will have an answer.
I'm sure SAM will have an answer.