British Military Planning for Iranian Strike?
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I've made a note in my diary to check on Iran at the start of May, just in case it gets blown off the map by the IDF, but that fails to make the evening news.
1. I'm 12.
2. Yes, I'm a "retard".
3. Yes - Israel WILL chuck a few tactical nukes into Iran within the next 12 months. I certainly would, given their absolutely enormous military might (compared to the 3rd world UK) & the threats Iran has made to Israel over the last 8 years.
4. The US would never publicly back an attack by Israel on Iran, but would would certainly help with ELINT from Cyprus (U2/TR1) & supplying high yield warheads (watch this space over the next year or so...).
5. The US would wish to draw in as many European/Middle East Nations as humanly possible. That would equate to only the UK & possibly Quatar. No other Mid-East nation within missile range of Iran would be daft enough to support a war that could turn nuclear. India (but not Pakistan) might help out.
6. Sadly, It is inevitable that Iran's nuclear facilities MUST be destroyed soon. However, the same should also be said of Pakistan, the REAL hotbed of world terrorism, who for some obscure reason, the Worlds Press ignore.
7. Watch this space for a strike by Israel on Iran within the next 6 months - or less....
2. Yes, I'm a "retard".
3. Yes - Israel WILL chuck a few tactical nukes into Iran within the next 12 months. I certainly would, given their absolutely enormous military might (compared to the 3rd world UK) & the threats Iran has made to Israel over the last 8 years.
4. The US would never publicly back an attack by Israel on Iran, but would would certainly help with ELINT from Cyprus (U2/TR1) & supplying high yield warheads (watch this space over the next year or so...).
5. The US would wish to draw in as many European/Middle East Nations as humanly possible. That would equate to only the UK & possibly Quatar. No other Mid-East nation within missile range of Iran would be daft enough to support a war that could turn nuclear. India (but not Pakistan) might help out.
6. Sadly, It is inevitable that Iran's nuclear facilities MUST be destroyed soon. However, the same should also be said of Pakistan, the REAL hotbed of world terrorism, who for some obscure reason, the Worlds Press ignore.
7. Watch this space for a strike by Israel on Iran within the next 6 months - or less....
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FB, Ignore SAMXXV, He's a retard.
I'm not offering that as my opinion, I'm not even repeating Tourist's opinion on the subject, I'm repeating what SAMXXV claims.
That being the case, I don't expect to read any nonesense from Mods about me calling SAM a retard, I'm not.
I'm just pointing out that he is, or at least claims to be.
Sam also claims to be a former RAF Officer and to be 12, I think it's all testicles.
I'm not offering that as my opinion, I'm not even repeating Tourist's opinion on the subject, I'm repeating what SAMXXV claims.
That being the case, I don't expect to read any nonesense from Mods about me calling SAM a retard, I'm not.
I'm just pointing out that he is, or at least claims to be.
Sam also claims to be a former RAF Officer and to be 12, I think it's all testicles.
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Whatever any nation that has the hump with Iran would do well to consider is the impact any hastily-planned operations upon it will have on the ongoing Afghan operation - with many hundred thousand Western troops based within spitting distance of not just nukes, but most of their conventional armoury too.
SAMXXV,
....is not only misguided, inaccurate and rather offensive, but to casually call Iranians 'ragheads' shows a huge lack of understanding of the middle east in general and Iran in particular. He is also weird in comparing and contrasting the military strength of the UK to Israel and coming to the bizarre conclusion that the UK by comparison is a third world power.
Heh SAMXXV, I suppose you would be happy to call any Sikh winner of the Victoria Cross, of which there are a goodly number a Raghead would you? Would you do that face to face with their relatives?
Weirdo..
....is not only misguided, inaccurate and rather offensive, but to casually call Iranians 'ragheads' shows a huge lack of understanding of the middle east in general and Iran in particular. He is also weird in comparing and contrasting the military strength of the UK to Israel and coming to the bizarre conclusion that the UK by comparison is a third world power.
Heh SAMXXV, I suppose you would be happy to call any Sikh winner of the Victoria Cross, of which there are a goodly number a Raghead would you? Would you do that face to face with their relatives?
Weirdo..
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I think that the Russians and their neighbours would have very strong opinions if anybody started firing off nuclear weapons at Tehran. A brief look at the proximity of Tehran to the Iranian/Former Soviet border would show why.
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Even if the Iranians gain nuclear weapons, the threat to the US of anything other than a smuggled suitcase nuke is minimal. However, the threat to Israel is much greater, and such a tiny country could not withstand more than a couple of nuclear strikes. The Israeli desire to remove or at least diminish the threat is the bigger security concern IMHO.
Army Dinner Jacket certainly knows that if he nukes the US just once, (and possibly even Israel), he, and his country will be cease to exist within the hour. Let him get the bomb, it will do him no good.
Army Dinner Jacket certainly knows that if he nukes the US just once, (and possibly even Israel), he, and his country will be cease to exist within the hour. Let him get the bomb, it will do him no good.
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Sam, "Iran has launched multiple "Jericho" missile attacks (They are not known to have accurate guidance systems!!) on all neighbouring country's."
How does Iran get to launch Israeli missiles?
How does Iran get to launch Israeli missiles?
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SAMXXV,
....is not only misguided, inaccurate and rather offensive, but to casually call Iranians 'ragheads' shows a huge lack of understanding of the middle east in general and Iran in particular. He is also weird in comparing and contrasting the military strength of the UK to Israel and coming to the bizarre conclusion that the UK by comparison is a third world power.
Heh SAMXXV, I suppose you would be happy to call any Sikh winner of the Victoria Cross, of which there are a goodly number a Raghead would you? Would you do that face to face with their relatives?
Weirdo.. "
Hilarious sir. I don't "casually" call Iranians "Ragheads" - because that is what they are - an illiterate bunch of animals (in general - I have known just a few intelligent men).
What in hell causes you to mention the Sikh's & VC's? Irrelevant!
Yes, the UK is an irrelevant military power TODAY - & probably for the future. France is a nuclear nation with several A/C Carriers, a mighty Air Force. They have the French Foreign Legion (feared worldwide - much more than the SAS/SBS).
The UK has bugger all today. Most of our weapons (airborne & submarine launched) are at the beck & call of Uncle Sam - who is almost bankrupt. We have absolutely no airborne nukes (WE177) since the good 'ole USA forced us into paying over £1,000,000 each for every one of RAF Marham's HAS's to have an underground nuclear storage facility in 1996 - that was scrapped 2 years later. I know because I was the crypto custodian then....
We have reasonably competent aircrew. The Navy are frightened to arrest/execute Somali pirates & are happy to have "fast boat crew" taken prisoner by the Iranian "Navy". Dare I mention our army (Of whom I am immensly proud).
In essence, I doubt if anybody awarded the VC would claim to be "brave" - they just happened to be covering their own arse at a time convenient to their immediate commander & politician's back home.
This will cause imflammantary remarks - but so be it - the truth.
Nobody that I have known ever wanted a "gallantry" award. Most tried to avoid it. Most awards were purely political, with no thought for the individual.
Ciow....
SAMXXV,
....is not only misguided, inaccurate and rather offensive, but to casually call Iranians 'ragheads' shows a huge lack of understanding of the middle east in general and Iran in particular. He is also weird in comparing and contrasting the military strength of the UK to Israel and coming to the bizarre conclusion that the UK by comparison is a third world power.
Heh SAMXXV, I suppose you would be happy to call any Sikh winner of the Victoria Cross, of which there are a goodly number a Raghead would you? Would you do that face to face with their relatives?
Weirdo.. "
Hilarious sir. I don't "casually" call Iranians "Ragheads" - because that is what they are - an illiterate bunch of animals (in general - I have known just a few intelligent men).
What in hell causes you to mention the Sikh's & VC's? Irrelevant!
Yes, the UK is an irrelevant military power TODAY - & probably for the future. France is a nuclear nation with several A/C Carriers, a mighty Air Force. They have the French Foreign Legion (feared worldwide - much more than the SAS/SBS).
The UK has bugger all today. Most of our weapons (airborne & submarine launched) are at the beck & call of Uncle Sam - who is almost bankrupt. We have absolutely no airborne nukes (WE177) since the good 'ole USA forced us into paying over £1,000,000 each for every one of RAF Marham's HAS's to have an underground nuclear storage facility in 1996 - that was scrapped 2 years later. I know because I was the crypto custodian then....
We have reasonably competent aircrew. The Navy are frightened to arrest/execute Somali pirates & are happy to have "fast boat crew" taken prisoner by the Iranian "Navy". Dare I mention our army (Of whom I am immensly proud).
In essence, I doubt if anybody awarded the VC would claim to be "brave" - they just happened to be covering their own arse at a time convenient to their immediate commander & politician's back home.
This will cause imflammantary remarks - but so be it - the truth.
Nobody that I have known ever wanted a "gallantry" award. Most tried to avoid it. Most awards were purely political, with no thought for the individual.
Ciow....
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Have been looking at remote psychological assessments of Ahmadinejad. they are quite interesting.
He is, apparently, a fanatical paranoid.
Characteristically, these personalities harbor intricate fantasies, make extravagant claims, fabricate stories to enhance their self-worth, and endow themselves with illusory powers. In their own minds, they are inspired leaders, talented geniuses, holy saints, or demigods, perceiving themselves as righteous saviors standing up to the evils of the universe. Behaviorally, these personalities present as smug, arrogant and expansive, with an air of contempt toward others. In the face if adversity, delusions of grandeur constitute their chief coping mechanism.
The major political implication of the study is the inference that Ahmadinejad is relatively impervious to influence by diplomatic or economic means and not conflict averse, which heightens the risk that he would be psychologically inclined to use military force with minimal provocation to counter perceived threats to regime survival.
The analysis has been carried out remotely so can not be relied upon. Many analyses say the same as above. The above comes from Here.
I have a question or two for you. Do you think Ahmadinejad has been good for Iran? Why?
A final question. How much influence does Ahmadinejad have over the Revolutionary Guard?
He is, apparently, a fanatical paranoid.
Characteristically, these personalities harbor intricate fantasies, make extravagant claims, fabricate stories to enhance their self-worth, and endow themselves with illusory powers. In their own minds, they are inspired leaders, talented geniuses, holy saints, or demigods, perceiving themselves as righteous saviors standing up to the evils of the universe. Behaviorally, these personalities present as smug, arrogant and expansive, with an air of contempt toward others. In the face if adversity, delusions of grandeur constitute their chief coping mechanism.
The major political implication of the study is the inference that Ahmadinejad is relatively impervious to influence by diplomatic or economic means and not conflict averse, which heightens the risk that he would be psychologically inclined to use military force with minimal provocation to counter perceived threats to regime survival.
The analysis has been carried out remotely so can not be relied upon. Many analyses say the same as above. The above comes from Here.
I have a question or two for you. Do you think Ahmadinejad has been good for Iran? Why?
A final question. How much influence does Ahmadinejad have over the Revolutionary Guard?
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I would point out that only 3 Persons have been awarded a Bar to the Victoria Cross - 2 of those Persons were Medical Officers and both were awarded the Bar Posthumously.
PS How many times have you been to Iran?
I would point out that only 3 Persons have been awarded a Bar to the Victoria Cross - 2 of those Persons were Medical Officers and both were awarded the Bar Posthumously.
PS How many times have you been to Iran?
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Cazatou said:
"I would point out that only 3 Persons have been awarded a Bar to the Victoria Cross - 2 of those Persons were Medical Officers and both were awarded the Bar Posthumously. "
WTF? what relevance has that comment to the posts?
I leave this forum now. Let's see what happens between now & May 2012. Armageddon by Israel I forsee.....
"I would point out that only 3 Persons have been awarded a Bar to the Victoria Cross - 2 of those Persons were Medical Officers and both were awarded the Bar Posthumously. "
WTF? what relevance has that comment to the posts?
I leave this forum now. Let's see what happens between now & May 2012. Armageddon by Israel I forsee.....