British Military Planning for Iranian Strike?
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British Military Planning for Iranian Strike?
Someone is beating the War Drums again.....is the UK gearing up for a strike at Iran, are UK Forces going to support American units in such a strike? The Israeli's plans seemed to have been leaked....is that the fate of the UK plans?
UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears | World news | The Guardian
Worse yet....is the Bamster (holder of the Nobel Peace Prize you may recall) fixing to kick off an American Strike in the hopes of turning around what looks more and more like a huge defeat at the Polls in November 2012? Dare he kick off another War and thus become a "War Time" President yet again?
After all...he brilliantly led the Libyan NATO Non-War did he not?
UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears | World news | The Guardian
Worse yet....is the Bamster (holder of the Nobel Peace Prize you may recall) fixing to kick off an American Strike in the hopes of turning around what looks more and more like a huge defeat at the Polls in November 2012? Dare he kick off another War and thus become a "War Time" President yet again?
After all...he brilliantly led the Libyan NATO Non-War did he not?
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"After all...he brilliantly led the Libyan NATO Non-War did he not?"
Lead from behind.
I wouldn't consider it leading as such, more being politically astute. I think France and the UK lead. Still, it achieved a number of goals, that of getting rid of the Colonel without boots on ground and getting NATO to stand up on it's own two feet, both of which the US wanted to achieve.
Now we wait and see whether the Colonel was the lesser of two evils and would the world have been better off with the Devil we know than the devil
we don't ?
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"After all...he brilliantly led the Libyan NATO Non-War did he not?"
Lead from behind.
I wouldn't consider it leading as such, more being politically astute. I think France and the UK lead. Still, it achieved a number of goals, that of getting rid of the Colonel without boots on ground and getting NATO to stand up on it's own two feet, both of which the US wanted to achieve.
Now we wait and see whether the Colonel was the lesser of two evils and would the world have been better off with the Devil we know than the devil
we don't ?
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Lead from behind.
Qatar....
They thinking that after supplying millions of $$$ in Weapons to the NTC in Libya and having troops on the ground they feel they the big boys.
Boy are they in for a shock.
They thinking that after supplying millions of $$$ in Weapons to the NTC in Libya and having troops on the ground they feel they the big boys.
Boy are they in for a shock.
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That was exactly what I was thinking. Very well put.
IF Iran is attacked, IMHO it will turn into a much bigger thing
than just Iran vs Israel, US, UK.
But that is my HO only.
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That was exactly what I was thinking. Very well put.
IF Iran is attacked, IMHO it will turn into a much bigger thing
than just Iran vs Israel, US, UK.
But that is my HO only.
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IF Iran is attacked, IMHO it will turn into a much bigger thing
than just Iran vs Israel, US, UK.
But that is my HO only.
than just Iran vs Israel, US, UK.
But that is my HO only.
I see no upside.
The idea that a rogue state having a nuke bomb is a worry as Pakistan has them, Saudi "alledgedly" has use of Pakistans after funding it, North Korea has them.
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I was also thinking of NSA Bahrain, the location / HQ of the Fifth fleet (Central Command) as well as a few of the bases for US Aircraft in the region.
And I think Iran would love the opportunity to stick the boots into some of it's neighbours under the disguise of retaliating against the US Troops co located on their soil.
As you correctly pointed out, the Straits and the Suez would be the big hiccups.
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I was also thinking of NSA Bahrain, the location / HQ of the Fifth fleet (Central Command) as well as a few of the bases for US Aircraft in the region.
And I think Iran would love the opportunity to stick the boots into some of it's neighbours under the disguise of retaliating against the US Troops co located on their soil.
As you correctly pointed out, the Straits and the Suez would be the big hiccups.
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I find all this posturing by US/Israel/UK very odd. The fact is that Iran's centrifuge manufacturing "factory" is several hundred metres under a mountain (funny old thing). It is nigh on impossible to destroy - though the entrance could be blocked forever....
The only way of destroying it is by dropping a several hundred Megaton nuclear bomb - the ramifications (& severe loss of innocent life) would be huge. However, Israel is willing (& capable) of throwing a few small Kiloton nukes into Iranian facilities. That is the likely scenario in a few months time IMHO. Israel is being threatened & can only be reigned in by the US for so long.
Scenario - Israel launches a multiple nuclear rocket attack, followed up (definately) by fighter attacks (flown without permission over other nation's sovereign airspace). USA immediately says it supports Israel. UK follows suit. UK can only contribute 1, possibly 2 nuclear submarines with about 48 Tomahawks to hit air defences/airfields. France, with it's awesome naval/air force/nuclear capability decides (as they would) to stay well out of this conflict.
The US ends up sending waves of B1/B2 bombers direct from the USA/RAF Fairford & pouring in ground troops, abandoning Afghanistan/Iraq et al. In the mean time (48 hours?) Iran has launched multiple "Jericho" missile attacks (They are not known to have accurate guidance systems!!) on all neighbouring country's. Plus umpteen suicide bombers.
Rather than spend the $BILLIONS in this scenario, why can' Israel & the USA recruit a few of the Muslim/Islamic suicide bombers who blow themselves up DAILY in the Middle East to infiltrate the Iranian nuclear facilities for the provision of several $MILLION for their families? Pure economics. There are thousands of mad relgious ragheads who can be turned by enormous amounts of cash.... Simples
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The only way of destroying it is by dropping a several hundred Megaton nuclear bomb - the ramifications (& severe loss of innocent life) would be huge. However, Israel is willing (& capable) of throwing a few small Kiloton nukes into Iranian facilities. That is the likely scenario in a few months time IMHO. Israel is being threatened & can only be reigned in by the US for so long.
Scenario - Israel launches a multiple nuclear rocket attack, followed up (definately) by fighter attacks (flown without permission over other nation's sovereign airspace). USA immediately says it supports Israel. UK follows suit. UK can only contribute 1, possibly 2 nuclear submarines with about 48 Tomahawks to hit air defences/airfields. France, with it's awesome naval/air force/nuclear capability decides (as they would) to stay well out of this conflict.
The US ends up sending waves of B1/B2 bombers direct from the USA/RAF Fairford & pouring in ground troops, abandoning Afghanistan/Iraq et al. In the mean time (48 hours?) Iran has launched multiple "Jericho" missile attacks (They are not known to have accurate guidance systems!!) on all neighbouring country's. Plus umpteen suicide bombers.
Rather than spend the $BILLIONS in this scenario, why can' Israel & the USA recruit a few of the Muslim/Islamic suicide bombers who blow themselves up DAILY in the Middle East to infiltrate the Iranian nuclear facilities for the provision of several $MILLION for their families? Pure economics. There are thousands of mad relgious ragheads who can be turned by enormous amounts of cash.... Simples
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How old are you?
Seriously?
"However, Israel is willing (& capable) of throwing a few small Kiloton nukes into Iranian facilities. That is the likely scenario in a few months time IMHO"
So you honestly believe that the "likely scenario" is nuclear war in a few months time.
Oookaaayy.........
Can I also assume that you have built a bunker and wear a tin hat "to stop them reading your brainwaves"
Did they probe you one night?
"There are thousands of mad relgious ragheads who can be turned by enormous amounts of cash.... Simples"
"enormous amounts of cash" is probably one of the things least likely to turn a "mad relgious raghead"
Edited to just say:
On a previous thread I was rebuked by the mods for calling Sam a retard. I just want to state for the record that I am not calling Sam a retard. Others might say that. You might very well say that, but I couldnt possibly say that.
Is that clear?
How old are you?
Seriously?
"However, Israel is willing (& capable) of throwing a few small Kiloton nukes into Iranian facilities. That is the likely scenario in a few months time IMHO"
So you honestly believe that the "likely scenario" is nuclear war in a few months time.
Oookaaayy.........
Can I also assume that you have built a bunker and wear a tin hat "to stop them reading your brainwaves"
Did they probe you one night?
"There are thousands of mad relgious ragheads who can be turned by enormous amounts of cash.... Simples"
"enormous amounts of cash" is probably one of the things least likely to turn a "mad relgious raghead"
Edited to just say:
On a previous thread I was rebuked by the mods for calling Sam a retard. I just want to state for the record that I am not calling Sam a retard. Others might say that. You might very well say that, but I couldnt possibly say that.
Is that clear?
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The UK thinking of joining an attack on Iran?
- Iran is not Iraq, its a vastly larger Country with a vastly different populace. The Israelis and others know this and why dinner jacket etc are still there. Time will tell.
- Dinner jacket has on countless times that any Country that strikes Iran would receive massive retaliation in response - he further warned that Iran has the ability to retaliate against any hostile aggression.
- Lets just put this in financial perspective for a moment:The failings of the financial system in the US/EU/UK has severely strained the UK purse,
- As a result, the UK Government is reducing expenditure at all levels - save for MP's Moat cleaning Expenses etc,
- You are downsizing your military asset base at an alarming rate,
- The UK's ability to control/influence offshore economic/political matters is degraded as a consequence,
- The UK Government is yet to understand - or effectively articulate to the general public (who, incidentally pay the MP's bills) the strategic ramifications and long term strategic implications to the UK MOD's cost cutting.
- The perception of this weakness to foreign hostile Governments and their possible advantageous short term actions (Argentina's renewed claim to the Falkland Island's and the recently found off shore resources as an example) based on their sensing the UK's current military weakness in developing a timely response, may be a good example.
- With the reduction in UK's Military capacity and demonstrated economic weakness, is it possible that the UK's MP's etc have totally lost the plot when it comes to recognising that the (New) UK's place in the world has reduced and the UK's ability to host/participate in yet more costly overseas campaigns is demonstrably at odds with servicing the domestic EU/ debit?
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Tourist:
But if you did say it, which you did not, I would agree with you, but of course I am not saying it either, since you didn't say it again, and, I suspect, you are still not saying it again, even now.
Although you are not saying it, I suspect that if you were saying it, you would be as confident and correct as you were the first, and only, time you said it.
So there we are, We've both not said it about him. So that should clear it up for the mods. Anyone else want to not say it?
But if you did say it, which you did not, I would agree with you, but of course I am not saying it either, since you didn't say it again, and, I suspect, you are still not saying it again, even now.
Although you are not saying it, I suspect that if you were saying it, you would be as confident and correct as you were the first, and only, time you said it.
So there we are, We've both not said it about him. So that should clear it up for the mods. Anyone else want to not say it?
Tourist spouted forth:
""SAM
How old are you?
Seriously?
"However, Israel is willing (& capable) of throwing a few small Kiloton nukes into Iranian facilities. That is the likely scenario in a few months time IMHO"
So you honestly believe that the "likely scenario" is nuclear war in a few months time.
Oookaaayy.........
Can I also assume that you have built a bunker and wear a tin hat "to stop them reading your brainwaves"
Did they probe you one night?
"There are thousands of mad relgious ragheads who can be turned by enormous amounts of cash.... Simples"
"enormous amounts of cash" is probably one of the things least likely to turn a "mad relgious raghead"
Edited to just say:
On a previous thread I was rebuked by the mods for calling Sam a retard. I just want to state for the record that I am not calling Sam a retard. Others might say that. You might very well say that, but I couldnt possibly say that.
Is that clear?
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1. I'm 12.
2. Yes, I'm a "retard".
3. Yes - Israel WILL chuck a few tactical nukes into Iran within the next 12 months. I certainly would, given their absolutely enormous military might (compared to the 3rd world UK) & the threats Iran has made to Israel over the last 8 years.
4. The US would never publicly back an attack by Israel on Iran, but would would certainly help with ELINT from Cyprus (U2/TR1) & supplying high yield warheads (watch this space over the next year or so...).
5. The US would wish to draw in as many European/Middle East Nations as humanly possible. That would equate to only the UK & possibly Quatar. No other Mid-East nation within missile range of Iran would be daft enough to support a war that could turn nuclear. India (but not Pakistan) might help out.
6. Sadly, It is inevitable that Iran's nuclear facilities MUST be destroyed soon. However, the same should also be said of Pakistan, the REAL hotbed of world terrorism, who for some obscure reason, the Worlds Press ignore.
7. Watch this space for a strike by Israel on Iran within the next 6 months - or less....
""SAM
How old are you?
Seriously?
"However, Israel is willing (& capable) of throwing a few small Kiloton nukes into Iranian facilities. That is the likely scenario in a few months time IMHO"
So you honestly believe that the "likely scenario" is nuclear war in a few months time.
Oookaaayy.........
Can I also assume that you have built a bunker and wear a tin hat "to stop them reading your brainwaves"
Did they probe you one night?
"There are thousands of mad relgious ragheads who can be turned by enormous amounts of cash.... Simples"
"enormous amounts of cash" is probably one of the things least likely to turn a "mad relgious raghead"
Edited to just say:
On a previous thread I was rebuked by the mods for calling Sam a retard. I just want to state for the record that I am not calling Sam a retard. Others might say that. You might very well say that, but I couldnt possibly say that.
Is that clear?
"1. I'm 12.
2. Yes, I'm a "retard".
3. Yes - Israel WILL chuck a few tactical nukes into Iran within the next 12 months. I certainly would, given their absolutely enormous military might (compared to the 3rd world UK) & the threats Iran has made to Israel over the last 8 years.
4. The US would never publicly back an attack by Israel on Iran, but would would certainly help with ELINT from Cyprus (U2/TR1) & supplying high yield warheads (watch this space over the next year or so...).
5. The US would wish to draw in as many European/Middle East Nations as humanly possible. That would equate to only the UK & possibly Quatar. No other Mid-East nation within missile range of Iran would be daft enough to support a war that could turn nuclear. India (but not Pakistan) might help out.
6. Sadly, It is inevitable that Iran's nuclear facilities MUST be destroyed soon. However, the same should also be said of Pakistan, the REAL hotbed of world terrorism, who for some obscure reason, the Worlds Press ignore.
7. Watch this space for a strike by Israel on Iran within the next 6 months - or less....
