Redundancy Tranche 2 delayed.

[Lima Juliet]

I looked at the stats from DASA and I couldn't see any FAA pilots being made redundant - does that mean that Sharkey's boy should apologise for his churlish outburst last year?

Mr Cameron witnessed first-hand the visceral anger the Harrier pilots feel over the decision to abandon the Harrier fleet to save money when he addressed members of the Armed Forces working at the Permanent Joint Headquarters at Northwood. There he encountered Lt Cdr Kris Ward, 37, who has flown more than 140 combats in Afghanistan and also happens to be the son of Cdr Nigel “Sharkey” Ward, who commanded the Harrier Squadron during the Falklands conflict. “I am now potentially facing unemployment,” Ward Jr told the Prime Minister. “How am I supposed to feel about that, sir?”

LJ

[gijoe]

LJ,

Wrong facts - read page 11.

5 x SO3s, 5 x SO2s selected.

...agreed, he did make himself look a bit of a knob!

[Lima Juliet]

GI Joe

Thanks, guess I'm also guilty of being a kn0b for not being able to see it - I also see they had 5x SO2s and 10x SO3s volunteer though for the 5 of each posts actually made redundant.

Humble pie being eaten for lunch...

LJ

[Pontius Navigator]

Originally Posted by Duncan D'Sorderlee

I was slightly surprised that of the 'up to 20' gp capts that they planned to make redundant, 25 got given the boot (there were 30 volunteers!). Or is my maths (or even my English) rubbish!

Duncs

No probably not. They have done this before where they have gone above target in anticipation of pleasing more now and sparing some pain in future cuts in the near term.

Would you rather a disgruntled gp capt went or stayed?

[Duncan D'Sorderlee]

PN,

Good point; however, my point was that the brief was for 'up to 20' and 25 went. Does that mean that the redundancy fields are irrelevant? I know of a number of disgruntled individuals who applied and were not selected; some of them have chosen to leave on PVR terms - without the extra cash that those disgruntled gp capts now have.

Duncs

[Could be the last?]

After considerable searching for a formal statement of what I would be paid on redundancy, it is interesting to be informed that an individual will only be made aware once he/she has been selected.

My point - how can an individual make an informed decision (voluntary redundancy) based on a a computer prog that has a disclaimer saying it is only a guide?

[QTRZulu]

Could be,

I fully understand where you are coming from and even speaking to the occasionally helpful peeps in Glasgow will not help. I can only speak from my own experience, but I am actually getting a bit more than the on-line tool predicted although sadly not enough for that new Aston Martin I've had my eye on

I'm fully aware that everyone will be different, but the only way you will actually know is to go for it. You could also try the AFPS as they offer impartial advice that is well worth the Ł30 per year membership fee

[Could be the last?]

QTR - it is just the uncertainty of taking the decision based on purely the redundancy calculator. The FPS have been very helpful, SPVA just slope off to the redundancy focal point at HQ Air! The FP will only speak with HR (PSF) and have stated an individual will only be told once they have been selected!! I give up!!

[top_cover]

Has anything been published yet as to when the next Tranche is to be announced? There seems to be a lot of uncertainty around the bazars as we all wait for the next round of the Job lottery. People are wanting to know what the future holds and wether or not we have to start looking for that next career.

[Mach Two]

Unless things change between now and then, I wouldn't expect to hear anything until the end of Jan at the earliest. My feeling is that there won't be many aircrew - at least, none that haven't applied.

[fin1012]

something cane round at work the other day - reckoned 10 Jan for the next redundancy fields announcement.....

[R 21]

Blunties recon 9 Jan 12 the numbers will be announced and application process started (if you want it) and final decision by 29 May 12.

[Whenurhappy]

I understand that Tranche 2 will be announced on 17 Jan 12.

[Jumping_Jack]

Indeed. Window for applications open 17 Jan to 28 Feb. Notifications on 12 Jun.

[Party Animal]

I can understand delaying the announcement of Tranche 2 away from 1 Jan, as most people will be on holiday then. But it seems a bit odd to make the redundancy call mid-month on 12 Jun? Would have thought 1 Jul would be better, with those on 12 months notice officially leaving on 30 Jun 13 as oppossed to presumably 11 Jun 13. Just seems a bit strange to my organised SO mindset...

[Biggus]

Earlier in June there appear to be various Queen's Diamond Jubilee holiday events. No doubt it was considered "bad form" to have news of RAF redundancies potentially distracting news attention from the celebrations?






There is at least one good point about the 9 months separation between the announcements for tranche 1 and 2. I know of some people who never ever went OOA, and could be considered dead wood, but, when the initial dates for the tranches were first announced, they suddenly volunteered for a 6 month OOA, carefull timing of which made them ineligible for both tranches 1 and 2. Hopefully the delay in tranche 2 will now make them vulnerable to a process which has seen far more worthy individuals already shown the door....

[Melchett01]

Indeed. Window for applications open 17 Jan to 28 Feb. Notifications on 12 Jun.

According to the DIN, this will be the last main round of redundancies (until the next lot!) for the RAF and RN bar a few OF5s and 6s and senior medical staff. So if you want it, now's the time to go for it, and if you don't want it, keep your head down and fingers crossed for 6 months.

[Just This Once...]

So after the delay Tranche 2 is finally here. I wonder what the day will bring and what clues it will give regarding the sort of structure we will have in the coming years.

[Jumping_Jack]

Jaffas have taken a hit this time.....

[Mach Two]

Everyone here is in quiet mode. Fingers crossed.