Redundancy Tranche 2 delayed.

[Jumping_Jack]

DIN has been released, info is now out there..

[Startrek3]

Grateful if some kind soul could post the light blue details here for those of us currently on Herrick.

[Willard Whyte]

Trade

Rank

Seniority

(as at 17 Jan 12)

Ground Trades Exclusions

Tranche 2 Quota

A Eng Tech
WO
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Personnel currently employed in SAGE/AGE appointments as at 17 Jan 12.
Personnel currently employed in Airborne Technician appointments as at 17 Jan 12.
Up to 5
FS
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Personnel currently undertaking or completed Licensed Engineer Training on Shadow or Voyager only.
Personnel currently employed in SAGE/AGE appointments as at 17 Jan 12.
Personnel currently employed in Airborne Technician appointments as at 17 Jan 12.
Personnel currently undertaking Rivet Joint training.
Up to 15
A Tech(Av)
Sgt
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Personnel currently undertaking or completed Licensed Engineer Training on Shadow or Voyager only.
Personnel currently undertaking Rivet Joint training.
Personnel who hold any of the following competencies:
Q-E3-AT( R)|RAF
Q-E3-AT( D)|RAF
Q-E3-AT( C)|RAF
X308E3D Sentry AEW Mk 1 Airborne Tech
Q-AAST-AGE|RAF
Q-AE3-AG|RAF
Q-AHER-GE|RAF
Q-AHJ-AGE|RAF
Q-AN-RAGE|RAF
Q-AN2-SC|RAF
Q-ATS-AGE|RAF
Q-ATS-AGE10 - TriStar Aircraft Ground Engineer|RAF
Q-AVCK-GE|RAF
Q-ANMRA4-AGE|RAF
Q-AC17-AGE|RAF
Up to 30
Cpl
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Personnel who are currently undertaking or have completed Licensed Engineer Training on Shadow or Voyager only.
Personnel currently undertaking Rivet Joint training.
Up to 75
A Tech(M)
Cpl
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Personnel who are currently undertaking or have completed Licensed Engineer Training on Shadow or Voyager only.
Personnel currently undertaking Rivet Joint training.
Up to 95
A Eng Tech A/P
Chf Tech

EED on or before 11 Jun 13
All
Sgt

EED on or before 11 Jun 13
All
Eng Tech P
Chf Tech

EED on or before 11 Jun 13
All
Eng Tech W
Cpl
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 40
ICT Tech
WO
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 10
Gen Tech E
Sgt
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 5
Cpl
Up to 10
Gen Tech M
Sgt
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 5
Cpl
Up to 35
Gen Tech WS
Sgt
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 1
Cpl
Up to 5
SAC (T) and Jnr Tech
Up to 10
PTI
WO
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 5
FS
Up to 15
Sgt
Up to 40
Cpl
Up to 35
Painter and Finisher
FS

EED on or before 11 Jun 13
All
Sgt
Cpl
SAC
Air Cart
WO
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 1
Sgt
Up to 5
Cpl
Up to 5
Photo
Sgt
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 10
Cpl
Up to 15
Logs (Chef)
WO
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 5
FS
Up to 5
Sgt
Up to 10
Cpl
Up to 35
Logs (Cat)
WO
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 1
Pers Spt
WO
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 10
FS
Up to 10




NCA

Trade

Rank

Seniority (as at 17 Jan 12)

NCA Exclusions

Tranche 2 Quota

WSOp (EW/Aco)
MACR
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Assigned to SAR flying appointments as at 17 Jan 12.
Assigned to an MPA Seedcorn appointment.
Assigned to Rivet Joint OCU or already qualified on Rivet Joint as at 17 Jan 12.
Up to 5
FS
Up to 5
Sgt
Greater than 8 years
Up to 10




SENIOR OFFICERS

Rank

Branch

Seniority (Substantiated on or before)

Senior Officer Exclusions

Tranche 2 Quota

Air Cdre
Flying
01 Jul 10
EED on or before 11 Dec 12
Up to 15
Eng CE
Pers
Regiment
Med & Dental
Eng AS
01 Jan 09
Logs
01 Jul 11
Gp Capt
Flying
01 Jan 08
Up to 30
Eng CE
Prov(Sy)
01 Jan 09
Logs
Eng AS
Regt
01 Jan 11
Pers
01 Jul 08




OFFICERS

Branch

Spec

Rank

Seniority (as at 17 Jan 12)

Officer Exclusions

Tranche 2 Quota

Engineer
AS
Wg Cdr
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 15
Sqn Ldr
Up to 30
Flt Lt
Up to 35
CE
Wg Cdr
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 5
Flt Lt
Up to 10
Ops (Spt)
ABM
Wg Cdr
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 5
ATC
Wg Cdr
Flt Ops
Wg Cdr
Flt Lt
Up to 10
Pers
Any
Wg Cdr
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 10
Sqn Ldr
Up to 60
Flt Lt
Up to 50
Logistics

Wg Cdr
Greater than 3 years
EED on or before 1 Apr 15
Up to 5
Sqn Ldr
Greater than 4 years
Up to 25

[Startrek3]

Thanks Willard.

If I am reading it correctly it looks like no officer aircrew below the rank of Gp Capt are eligible!!

[OpsLoad8]

Tranche 2 Fields

From the DIN:

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...oad8/T2-P1.jpg

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...oad8/T2-P2.jpg

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...oad8/T2-P3.jpg

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...oad8/T2-P4.jpg

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...oad8/T2-P5.jpg

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...oad8/T2-P6.jpg

http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/...oad8/T2-P7.jpg

Good luck to all and stay safe wherever you are.

[Just This Once...]

With over 300 productive aircrew (plus another 200 or so in trg) lost in Tranche 1 the very low numbers of aircrew in Tranche 2 is quite a shift. Did they cut back too far or has the recent near-exodus finally shaken them awake?

Good luck to all with whatever comes next.

[Scuttled]

Admin officers and PTIs seem, proportionally, to have taken a hammering.

[Willard Whyte]

Sorry about the formatting, not sure how to post a table.

[Mach the Knife]

Where are the pilot slots, was hoping to avoid the need to PVR!

[Just This Once...]

Some of the trades (eg Painter & Finishers) have a quota listed as 'All'. I'm I reading this wrong or are they really looking to get rid of all of them?

[Courtney Mil]

That's how I read it, JTO. Everyone that doesn't fit in the exlusion. Waiting for a briefing at lunchtime from buddy at HQ Air.

[NutLoose]

News is saying

As we continue with the redundancy process, we will ensure we retain the capabilities that our armed forces will require to meet the challenges of the future.
"The redundancy programme will not impact adversely on the current operations in Afghanistan, where our armed forces continue to fight so bravely on this country's behalf."
MoD officials said 400 Gurkhas with more than six years' service would be made redundant under the plans along with 500 infantry privates.
The Army will also lose eight Brigadiers and 60 Lieutenant Colonels.
Posts earmarked to go at the Royal Navy include five Commodores, 17 Captains, 19 Royal Marine officers at Lieutenant Colonel, Colonel and Brigadier ranks while around 80 Fleet Air Arm jobs will go.
In the RAF, up to 15 Air Commodores and 30 Group Captains will be among the posts to be axed.

[Red Line Entry]

Just This Once,

I think that the Painters and Finishers are an obsolescent trade and have been for the past 3 or 4 years. The work transferred to contractors some time ago, albeit with RAF Servicemen as 'GFx' to reduce contract costs while the manpower was still in the RAF. I guess that this will be the mechanism to get rid of the last few remaining in light blue.

[A2QFI]

At the risk of being coned in searchlights and shot down in flames - who paints and finishes the few aircraft we have in service?

[Red Line Entry]

About 3 years ago Serco got the contract at a bunch of FJ stns. Don't know if they still have it.

[NutLoose]

At the risk of being coned in searchlights and shot down in flames - who paints and finishes the few aircraft we have in service?

Judging by some of the patchwork quilt VC10 tanker and Herc schemes, they were done by Class 6, Carterton primary School.

[DSAT Man]

'Admin officers and PTIs seem, proportionally, to have taken a hammering.'

This figure is actually a bit misleading. Most of the 110 will come from ex-PEdOs and Trainers whom the shinies have decided are no longer required. You can bet that when all the appications are in, very few of the selected ones will be from the old Pers (Spt) specialistion. Many of them will be denied redundancy while the PEdOs and Trainers will be euthanised.

[Just This Once...]

I guess that this will be the mechanism to get rid of the last few remaining in light blue.

Red Line, TVM as I didn't know all the painters were being ditched and does answer the question as to why I found it so hard to get a deployed composite ac rubbed down and repainted a while back!

Perhaps my example of painters was off the mark but the list also shows that all chf tech & sgt A Eng Tech A/P as well as all the chf tech Eng Tech Ps share the same fate. Seems quite dramatic for those involved!

[Duncan D'Sorderlee]

Up to another 20 NCA to go as well - including sgts this time.

(excluding RJ/SAR/Seedcorn)

Duncs

[iglide]

JTO

"Perhaps my example of painters was off the mark but the list also shows that all chf tech & sgt A Eng Tech A/P as well as all the chf tech Eng Tech Ps share the same fate. Seems quite dramatic for those involved!"

These are the chaps that have not undertaken the cross-training to Aircraft Tech Mechanical.