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Helmets are already procured, they have 4 "pads" that are studded with LEDs. A small prism reflects targetting info onto the visor. Day and night helmets are available for pilot only. It looks quite groovy, but bear in mind it's a cue-ing system not a full HMS.
Only 2 sensors mounted on the seat are requred to determine helmet position.
Only 2 sensors mounted on the seat are requred to determine helmet position.
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Lt Cdr James Blackmore wrote,
For the final six months, we operated with a Helmet Mounted Cueing System (HMCS). This allows the pilot to quickly identify coordinates on the ground using a red diamond that is projected over it on a reticule placed over the right eye. This is an excellent tool in increasing spatial awareness and takes away the need to spend vital minutes using binoculars to identify features from a map. Equally, in reverse, the pilot is able to look around the battle space and if he sees something of interest, he simply looks at it, designates it using controls on the throttle and immediately the SNIPER ATP will move to look at that same point on the ground.
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FLYER Forums • View topic - The Harrier GR.9 and Operation Herrick
Lt Cdr James Blackmore wrote,
For the final six months, we operated with a Helmet Mounted Cueing System (HMCS). This allows the pilot to quickly identify coordinates on the ground using a red diamond that is projected over it on a reticule placed over the right eye. This is an excellent tool in increasing spatial awareness and takes away the need to spend vital minutes using binoculars to identify features from a map. Equally, in reverse, the pilot is able to look around the battle space and if he sees something of interest, he simply looks at it, designates it using controls on the throttle and immediately the SNIPER ATP will move to look at that same point on the ground.
TJ
Thanks TEEJ, I didn't know that.
I must admit I managed quite well in the GR4 without a HMS, but then I didn't have a situation where I saw something from the front seat and needed to get the ac kit/Litening pod pointing towards it. Usually it was the JTAC queueing the pod on for the Nav and after that it was really easy.
I must admit I managed quite well in the GR4 without a HMS, but then I didn't have a situation where I saw something from the front seat and needed to get the ac kit/Litening pod pointing towards it. Usually it was the JTAC queueing the pod on for the Nav and after that it was really easy.
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I guess it is the same thing that the Jags used to have, years ago? That seemed pretty useful when the guys were using it on TLP.
Pity that the Jag only managed to get airborne when tooled up 'cos of the curvature of the earth.
Pity that the Jag only managed to get airborne when tooled up 'cos of the curvature of the earth.
Oh God, that reminds me of watching the jags staging through Cyprus on the way out to GW1. I'll swear the last one in the trail, in August, got airborne with inches to spare.
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JAJ wrote:
I must admit I managed quite well in the GR4 without a HMS, but then I didn't have a situation where I saw something from the front seat and needed to get the ac kit/Litening pod pointing towards it. Usually it was the JTAC queueing the pod on for the Nav and after that it was really easy.
So aren't we just pointing out that all that techno-geekery on Jag/Harrier was just desparately trying to compensate for the lack of a back-seater?
I must admit I managed quite well in the GR4 without a HMS, but then I didn't have a situation where I saw something from the front seat and needed to get the ac kit/Litening pod pointing towards it. Usually it was the JTAC queueing the pod on for the Nav and after that it was really easy.
So aren't we just pointing out that all that techno-geekery on Jag/Harrier was just desparately trying to compensate for the lack of a back-seater?
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AA,
It would be helpful if you highlighted the particular post. I'm not seeing any problems at my end? You Tube have recently changed their share URL links. The share link now has the short URL, but by taking the video ID code and and inserting it between the HTML you tube blocks then the video will appear. This share link problem might possibly be corrupted on your browser? It works OK for me. Anyone else having problems?
Sharing codes corrupted - YouTube Help
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Teeej...
You should either brush up on your computer skills or check your work once done..
You should either brush up on your computer skills or check your work once done..
It would be helpful if you highlighted the particular post. I'm not seeing any problems at my end? You Tube have recently changed their share URL links. The share link now has the short URL, but by taking the video ID code and and inserting it between the HTML you tube blocks then the video will appear. This share link problem might possibly be corrupted on your browser? It works OK for me. Anyone else having problems?
Sharing codes corrupted - YouTube Help
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AA,
As you can see the You Tube change is causing problems on all forums and all over the Internet. As the URLs are changed by You Tube then the originally embedded videos will simply not form a link.
http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4485...ed-videos.html
http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/3383...track-113.html
I'll try and edit my posts that are now showing dead links.
TJ
As you can see the You Tube change is causing problems on all forums and all over the Internet. As the URLs are changed by You Tube then the originally embedded videos will simply not form a link.
http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4485...ed-videos.html
http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/3383...track-113.html
I'll try and edit my posts that are now showing dead links.
TJ
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Teej:
My apologies... When I visited the Youtube links were indeed bad so they showed as [you_tube]1786shbxdy27[/you_tube] without the underscores. Not being a frequent visitor to Youtube I was unaware of the changes they were making...
My apologies... When I visited the Youtube links were indeed bad so they showed as [you_tube]1786shbxdy27[/you_tube] without the underscores. Not being a frequent visitor to Youtube I was unaware of the changes they were making...
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
The rebels have Hinds?! I must pay more attention.
If the struggle continues, and if the majority of the ground forces on both sides transit via the coast road then that road needs to cut with a 10 mile buffer zone, anything on wheels/tracks in that zone would be examined closely (UAVs? Apache?) and then dealt with accordingly.
Perhaps a UN solution? If the UN can keep the Greeks and the Turks apart in Cyprus then separating the opposing forces in Libya shouldn't present too much of a problem ...?
Surely this cannot end up in yet another political mess where the effectiveness of military ops is compromised by general political incompetence? Too depressing for words
If the struggle continues, and if the majority of the ground forces on both sides transit via the coast road then that road needs to cut with a 10 mile buffer zone, anything on wheels/tracks in that zone would be examined closely (UAVs? Apache?) and then dealt with accordingly.
Perhaps a UN solution? If the UN can keep the Greeks and the Turks apart in Cyprus then separating the opposing forces in Libya shouldn't present too much of a problem ...?
Surely this cannot end up in yet another political mess where the effectiveness of military ops is compromised by general political incompetence? Too depressing for words
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Hi all, I have a question which I guess is related to this thread.
I'm a project scientist for a satellite sensor, and over the previous few weeks I've noticed some anomalous data over Libya during the night. Some investigation suggests that these are related to the unrest that's been going on over there, which is interesting to us as we haven't considered it possible to monitor such events with our satellite.
So, are any of you aware of a contact point in the RAF, or other AF involved in Libya, who may be able to assist me in identifying these anomalous data points? I know they're explosions, but it would be useful to have an source confirm this. Of course, I understand the sensitivity of the subject, and would not expect any other information apart from yes/no for a list of 5-10 points that I can provide.
If any of you can let me know such a contact I'd be very grateful, and if you want more details of what I'm doing then feel free to PM me.
I'm a project scientist for a satellite sensor, and over the previous few weeks I've noticed some anomalous data over Libya during the night. Some investigation suggests that these are related to the unrest that's been going on over there, which is interesting to us as we haven't considered it possible to monitor such events with our satellite.
So, are any of you aware of a contact point in the RAF, or other AF involved in Libya, who may be able to assist me in identifying these anomalous data points? I know they're explosions, but it would be useful to have an source confirm this. Of course, I understand the sensitivity of the subject, and would not expect any other information apart from yes/no for a list of 5-10 points that I can provide.
If any of you can let me know such a contact I'd be very grateful, and if you want more details of what I'm doing then feel free to PM me.
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Once again the RAF has lost out on 10 years of capability due to a poor decision being made at higher level. The Jaguar 96 HMS was developed for the Tornado F3 in 2001. This was mainly to achieve the 'high off boresight' shots that ASRAAM would provide. It was, however, possible to slew the radar, TIALD pod, or any other sensor to the helmet. Equally it was possible to be cued visually to any object being tracked by a sensor. The software was written by SMT, ground trialled and ready for flight trail. The 1553 data bus was installed in an OEU aircraft. At the last minute the plug was pulled on the programme due to cost. Although not admitted publicly there was concern that the programme would compromise the 'already slipping' Typhoon in servive date. At the time the GR1/4 force stated that they did not need an HMS and could not see the benifit. Why are the RAF so short sighted and stovepipe their ideas to one role or platform. Maybe it is because every officer from Sqn Cdr to CAS has spent the last 10 years defending his own platform at all costs, no mater how wrong those decisions were?
the effectiveness of military ops is compromised by general political incompetence
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Hi TEEEJ and Airborne Aircrew. Sorry but I caused the confusion. I saw what Airborne Aircrew saw this morning and changed the links so they worked, but I was in a heck of a rush as I was off to see aged pa-in-law in Sussex, so didn't "leave a note".
For your interest, all you have to do for youtube clips now is copy the URL from youtube and then paste it directly into where you want it in your post. Automatically embedded.
Sorry again.
For your interest, all you have to do for youtube clips now is copy the URL from youtube and then paste it directly into where you want it in your post. Automatically embedded.
Sorry again.
Swedish Air Force Gripen refuelling from Swedish Air Force Hercules.
GRIPEN INDIA: PHOTO: Gripen Air Refueling For Libya Mission
TJ
GRIPEN INDIA: PHOTO: Gripen Air Refueling For Libya Mission
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New topic - Gunships in Libya
I'm coming from the standpoint that NATO have assets that could, within the terms of UN1973, kill ground troops loyal to Gadaffi in urban areas where airstrikes by fast jets can't.
I'm led to this by the many YouTube videos from Afghanistan showing rapid firing gunnery attacking individuals to groups of combatants amongst residential areas.
Misrata is a case in point where the city is divided between the opposing forces and mortar fire is killing civilians.
Am I wrong to think that something like a C130 type a/c suitably equipped could support rebels in suppressing ground forces in this situation?
Sir George Cayley
I'm led to this by the many YouTube videos from Afghanistan showing rapid firing gunnery attacking individuals to groups of combatants amongst residential areas.
Misrata is a case in point where the city is divided between the opposing forces and mortar fire is killing civilians.
Am I wrong to think that something like a C130 type a/c suitably equipped could support rebels in suppressing ground forces in this situation?
Sir George Cayley