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Old 31st Dec 2010, 18:09
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Happy New Year to you too, Ted (two pensions) Toddington.
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Old 31st Dec 2010, 22:30
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Air police,

by definition of a proper job, do you include military as a proper job? - after all the taxpayers contribute to that. I had the pleasure of listening to Eric Grove at a seminar a few years ago. Very knowledgeable chap, immensely clever. He has probably contributed more (albeit indirectly) to the defence of this nation than you or I will certainly ever achieve.

I kind of got board with the RIAT bashing, but while i'm on here; if you were to look at the dividends that listed companies pay, as a percentage it is approximately similar to that of RAFCTE charitable output. I too would like to see more of the revenue go directly to those who need it, but in the commercial world RAFCTE's numbers are comparable. the costs of doing business and investing enough money to stay relevant are enormous. I just hope RAFCTE's accounts for the future are more promising than the current set.

Happy new year
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Old 1st Jan 2011, 16:26
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There was a Colonel at JHQ c. 1980 who, on marching out, had no difficulty and no embarrassment in explaining turd-marks on the carpet: "It was m'orse".

Never mind stabling in stables.
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Does anyone know what is the situation with fatigue life for the Hawk fleet?

I presume lack of the above may well kill the Arrows before any political decision.

There certainly will not be money in the coffers to buy T2s as a replacement

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Old 3rd Apr 2011, 11:45
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Why not use the Harriers at Wittering & Cottesmore , there's loads of them available for display flying !
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Time to seek sponsorship for each aircraft. Win-win.
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Old 3rd Apr 2011, 13:05
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Why bin something that is such great PR for the RAF? They also attract crowds to air shows (well, to the few air shows we have left) who then spend money.

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Old 3rd Apr 2011, 21:19
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Sorry, but we are supposed to be in the business of providing air power not running air shows to make profits for various stall holders and fairground operatives......and on the other point why do we need positive PR when we are binning 5,000 perfectly good people in the next few years?
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Old 3rd Apr 2011, 21:38
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When in actual fact I joined as Aircrew because of the promise of:

Girls
Pop-star wages
Work hard play hard ethos
Jollys to exotic locations
Hotels on Det
Rates
A great bunch of mates who don't take life too seriously
And more Girls

my biggest moan is that I don't get as much as I used to
(except for the wages....PA Spine)
Really PFMG? Projecting airpower doesn't seem to be on your list of reasons why you joined up.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 07:43
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If "projecting airpower" was on your list when you were a teenager, then it's probable and lucky "girls" and "a great bunch of mates" weren't.

But that's just an opinion
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 08:05
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Tourist

I had no list - just happy to get a job that turned into a career.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 17:24
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Justanopinion

You seem to be confusing my job (what I'm paid to do) with the reason I joined (what I hoped to get in return).

It's not my job to provide the public with a jolly day out - that said, I would never try to suggest that I've not taken part in a few and reaped some of the fringe benefits.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 17:36
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PFMG

Thanks - got it that time. Back to the Red Arrows.............
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Old 5th Apr 2011, 14:20
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Red Arrows on standby for No-Fly Zone Grand Finale spectacular
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