F-35 Cancelled, then what ?
"Full A2A" in 3F is, I believe, defined as four internal AIM-120C and two external AIM-9X. (The third and fourth AIM-120s replace the internal bombs.) 2B/3i is two internal AIM-120C, which is determined to be the minimum load required to give away your position, take out one or two of the opposing Sukhois and 
off the rest. Whether this is tactically advisable is another question.
Asraam may still be in 3F, too.
DOT&E had some ripe things to say about AIM-120 testing, saying that the test team reduced target maneuver limits and changed target spacing, among other things, in order to get positive results. The report didn't quite use the R-word but the implication is clear.
off the rest. Whether this is tactically advisable is another question. Asraam may still be in 3F, too.
DOT&E had some ripe things to say about AIM-120 testing, saying that the test team reduced target maneuver limits and changed target spacing, among other things, in order to get positive results. The report didn't quite use the R-word but the implication is clear.
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Page 3, under 'Weapons Integration', CM...
http://www.dote.osd.mil/pub/reports/...2015f35jsf.pdf
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http://www.dote.osd.mil/pub/reports/...2015f35jsf.pdf
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So the answer to my question is
No. Well, maybe, but we don't know what to say.
"The program altered the event scenario for three of
these events, as well as the twelfth event, specifically to
work around F-35 system deficiencies (e.g., changing
target spacing or restricting target maneuvers and
countermeasures).
- The performance of the Block 2B-configured F-35, if used
in combat, will depend in part on the degree to which the
enemy’s capabilities exceed the constraints of these narrow
scenarios and the operational utility of the workarounds
necessary for successful weapons employment."
"The program altered the event scenario for three of
these events, as well as the twelfth event, specifically to
work around F-35 system deficiencies (e.g., changing
target spacing or restricting target maneuvers and
countermeasures).
- The performance of the Block 2B-configured F-35, if used
in combat, will depend in part on the degree to which the
enemy’s capabilities exceed the constraints of these narrow
scenarios and the operational utility of the workarounds
necessary for successful weapons employment."
Radix - If the adversaries need to be told that they can make life more difficult for us by maneuvering, using countermeasures or flying close together or in trail, I'd say we don't have much to worry about.
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CM, when I said "you are ex f-15 and was involved in some of the typhoon stuff. you are the only one's attitude I don't understand here, when compared to what other f-15 and typhoon pilots say"
The F-15 and Typhoon pilots that have anything to do with it, including those of the RAF. Say the F-35 is a step change and is a good platform.
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LO, the block 2b had flight restrictions and will continue to do so. I don't know if the AIM-120 is cleared for some or all the restrictions that are in place.
The F-15 and Typhoon pilots that have anything to do with it, including those of the RAF. Say the F-35 is a step change and is a good platform.
......
LO, the block 2b had flight restrictions and will continue to do so. I don't know if the AIM-120 is cleared for some or all the restrictions that are in place.
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@Radix; @CM:
The publicly released DOT&E reports are vetted for security. There is also a classified version that the public - and presumably adversaries - do not see. So it seems the meme that the DOT&E is somehow aiding the enemy is just another misdirection by program advocates.
The publicly released DOT&E reports are vetted for security. There is also a classified version that the public - and presumably adversaries - do not see. So it seems the meme that the DOT&E is somehow aiding the enemy is just another misdirection by program advocates.
Program advocates would like DOT&E to go away:
We Have To Stop Letting The Testers Run The Asylum - Lexington Institute
However, the "adjust parameters until the probability of test success = 1.0" approach seen in the JSF program is exactly why the DOT&E office was created in the first place.
We Have To Stop Letting The Testers Run The Asylum - Lexington Institute
However, the "adjust parameters until the probability of test success = 1.0" approach seen in the JSF program is exactly why the DOT&E office was created in the first place.
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CM, when I said "you are ex f-15 and was involved in some of the typhoon stuff. you are the only one's attitude I don't understand here, when compared to what other f-15 and typhoon pilots say"
The F-15 and Typhoon pilots that have anything to do with it, including those of the RAF. Say the F-35 is a step change and is a good platform.
The F-15 and Typhoon pilots that have anything to do with it, including those of the RAF. Say the F-35 is a step change and is a good platform.
Program advocates would like DOT&E to go away: We Have To Stop Letting The Testers Run The Asylum - Lexington Institute
Maybe some of their granddads were members of the Bureau of Ordnance. How do you know it works? You check it out.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Snigger.... I shouldn't laugh, but......
US commander defends Joint Strike Fighter F-35A ahead of Senate inquiry
Bogdan dismisses concerns F-35As not suited to hot climates
In a submission to the Senate inquiry, Australian defence analyst David Archibald said F-35s would have trouble operating out of northern Australia.
"The F-35 uses its fuel for cooling its electronics," he wrote. "The aircraft won't start if its fuel is too warm, making deployment in northern Australia problematic."
But Lt Gen Bogdan said the issue with fuel was no different to legacy fighters.
"There are limits on any engine including the F-35 as to how hot the fuel can be before you put it in the plane," he said........
US commander defends Joint Strike Fighter F-35A ahead of Senate inquiry
Bogdan dismisses concerns F-35As not suited to hot climates
In a submission to the Senate inquiry, Australian defence analyst David Archibald said F-35s would have trouble operating out of northern Australia.
"The F-35 uses its fuel for cooling its electronics," he wrote. "The aircraft won't start if its fuel is too warm, making deployment in northern Australia problematic."
But Lt Gen Bogdan said the issue with fuel was no different to legacy fighters.
"There are limits on any engine including the F-35 as to how hot the fuel can be before you put it in the plane," he said........
Originally Posted by General Bogdan
"One thing you ought to know — and I am pre-empting my speech in front of the Senate — I am not an F-35 salesman," he said.
"There is no match in the world [for the F-35s] and there won't be for 10 or 20 years.
"Here's what an F-35 can do for you: long before two aeroplanes get close enough to see each other the F-35 is going to see that other aeroplane and kill it."
"There is no match in the world [for the F-35s] and there won't be for 10 or 20 years.
"Here's what an F-35 can do for you: long before two aeroplanes get close enough to see each other the F-35 is going to see that other aeroplane and kill it."