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Old 4th Mar 2007, 18:31
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Antonr, I believe that your supposition is correct. Although it is suupsedly a level playing field when you apply for a commission whether you are serving or not there are swings and roundabouts.

Against it the fact that the RAF gets to see the real you for far longer and may thus decide you are not commissionable. On the other hand you will gain greater insight and maturity and may have the benefit of a commissioning club (on many stations). You will certainly be ableto get first hand advice.

Go for it. Your career is in your hands.








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Old 5th Mar 2007, 08:11
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Naughtyaviator, when I was in light blue, it was GD(P). I don't keep myself up to date with the minutae of role designators...I have a life. Best of luck - as long as your primary doesn't read your comments and trace them back to you I'm sure you'll be fine!

One last thing - I've a mate who was chopped on 15, had wings stripped, and started off at day one, week one of nav training. I've another mate who had wings stripped on Chinook on his final OCU trip. Remember the axe is always close.
 
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Selection Process Pilot UK Military

I understand all RAF, RAN, and Army(?) pilot applicants are assessed via the process at OASC at Cranwell . The process involves aptitude testing , fitness testing, leadership and "group" exercises , and the officer selection board.

I wanted to know if a final determination is made on a candidate after OASC. Is there a " flight screening " process like those used by other countries to make a final decision?

Also are there any other mechanisms or tests involved in the process before or after Cranwell.

Thank you
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Marloo, as a first step you would be well advised to approach the British Embassy in Canberra as you will need to confirm your acceptability in terms of education and nationality.
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 17:35
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Talking Qualifications for pilot and eye tests

In reply to various peoples references to qualitifcations needed, i have average - good A-Levels and a 2:2 degree in Biology and was accepted as a Pilot, i believe as long as you show intelligence of a good standard then you will be ok in that aspect, i know i have only just be accepted for IOT so therefore please correct me if im wrong but i got the impression that they were looking for Leaders who showed ability in dealing with other people, i have also heard and believe the fact that you are an Officer first and a Pilot second so as long as you pass the Apptitude test for Pilot then it is down to how much officer potential you show.

With advice on eyes also i had my eye test straight after the Aptitude Test and failed badly due to looking at a computer for the last 6 hours, after insisting on another test the following day i passed with flying colours so i would insist on a retest if anyone would to ever fail by asmall margin!
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rm2808,
i got the impression that they were looking for Leaders who showed ability in dealing with other people
RM, by this if you mean 'people with leadership potential who are good team players' then you are correct.

A charismatic but dogmatic leader such as Montgomery, Patton, or even Bader, would probably all be rejected. You can only become a PITA once you have proven abilities as a flyer or war fighter or whatever. Active participation as a team player is essential.
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Wink Selection

Yeah thats pretty much what i was trying to get at, have to be able to work within a group as well as have leadership potential. That i think is a major part of the selection, like i said i have only just been selected for IOT in June so im not a fountain of knowledge as yet and think that not many people are so any corrections are welcome!

Tho good news is i found a friedn who is on IOT 8 with me, anyone else out there?
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how strict medical for nca

hi, i've recently been to oasc and told that i am accepted for nca however when at oasc the doc picked up a slight heart murmur and placed me temporarily unfit and thy wont physically offer me a course until further invest. I had a scan last week and the consultant (civvy) diagnosed a very mild leak in one of the valves (not quite shutting properly) she said that it is nothing at all to worry about and that it is something i have probably had since birth and that it wont hinder my fitness whatsoever, and that if they hadn't picked it up then i would have probably never noticed it.
However i cant help thinking that after coming all this way, they may turn around and tell me that i am permanantly unfit for nca, does anyone out there know anything about what they will and will not accept, (I am currently already serving - not sure if this makes any difference) as I am going out of my mind, I still have stage 2 med. next week to get through, but thats another story.
any reply would be greatly appreciated, cheers chaps.
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Angry Cough (asthma)

I have just today been notified that my medical records are not acceptable due to 2 remarks of "cough (asthma)" from when i was 7 & 11!

These 2 time i have been informed by my parents i had a cough/chest infection and not asthma but have been declared permenantly unfit - aircrew and therefore my place in IOT 8 is in tatters as i didnt have any ground branches, has anyone on here ever disputed there past medical history as i have NEVER suffered from Asthma, had an Asthma attack or anything, i will try to appeal against this but dont think it will be accepted!

Does the Navy and AAC have the same crazy rules? I cant believe it im so gutted! Ive ran marathons for christs sake and got 13.3 on the bleep test!
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Have an engineering degree and dual citizen. Come on someone must know the answer to my question here?

I understand all RAF, RAN, and Army(?) pilot applicants are assessed via the process at OASC at Cranwell . The process involves aptitude testing , fitness testing, leadership and "group" exercises , and the officer selection board.

I wanted to know if a final determination is made on a candidate after OASC. Is there a " flight screening " process like those used by other countries to make a final decision?

Also are there any other mechanisms or tests involved in the process before or after Cranwell.

Thank you
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Marloo, everything you want to know is here. Just read.

OK, so you have dual citizenship which might therefore be OK.

The process is I believe - fly to UK, visit AFCO, hang around a few months, visit OASC and then either fly home or hang around a few months. Then IOT. The EFT then fly home or BFT etc etc.

In about 3-4 years time you are either well established on a sheep farm or just about to start an operational conversion.

Is there a flight screening? Depends what you think you mean by this. Are you put in an aircraft and told to fly it - No? Are you given elementary flying before being rejected - yes, but only after IOT.

At OASC you will undergo a full battery of tests including aptitude tests.

How does this fit in compared with your application for Quantas last year? If you did not make Quantas why do you think you would make a military officer and a military pilot?
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I wanted to know if a final determination is made on a candidate after OASC. Is there a " flight screening " process like those used by other countries to make a final decision?
None of the UK armed forces conduct screening for flying training in live aircraft prior to joining-up.

Remember that you might achieve a "pass" at OASC or the RN's AIB etc. and still not be offered a place, if others above you have higher scores.
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Wizzop Wannabe

I have exactly the same type of heart murmour and I have been NCA for the last 22 years. Now you have had the nod from a specialist, you only need worry about the training.

Good luck.
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Old 9th Mar 2007, 21:20
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nca medical

thanks for that avtur, was your murmer picked up before selection though? and does anyone know if aswell as having the 2nd stage medical do i have to take fitness test again or have a fam. visit or anything. The next ncait course starts 8th april, cutting it a bit fine for that me thinks, i have medical next wednesday so i'm thinking i may have to wait until the july course, but fingers crossed (i'd start tomorrow if they'd have me)
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Thanks mate.

Thought it was some Gucci sms text type speak...LOL
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Advice Wanted

Hi Everyone,
Just looking for some up to date advice from the experts about what I should be concentrating on studying prior to my initial AFCO interview and hopefully selection tests at OASC.
I'm a serving Airman in the Air Movs trade, with 5 years done (4 on UKMAMS). I've plenty of experience flying on several of the aircraft types that feature WSop (Crewman) in there crews. Had lots of time out on both our main ops to boot. I've been reading 'The Times' religiously for the last couple of years for the current affairs knowledge. I'm working out regularly in preparation for the physical side, and doing maths problems to sharpen up my numerical skills. I'm also attending the 'Commissioning Club' when tasking and ops allow (Which is rarely). Its for this reason that I'm lacking a secondary duty, will this be a major drama?
Anyway thats about the size of it, P2 application went in last Friday so I'm now waiting for an interview date.
Any advice on glaringly obvious things I've not considered would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks.
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