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SWOMPY the Mover
As the Swompy thread is closed:
Sorry Guys, it looks like Swompy was genuine; 14 Nov he posted this:
Sorry Guys, it looks like Swompy was genuine; 14 Nov he posted this:
Sorry to come in on this thred but I notice that their are some movers and WSOps knocking about on here. Bassicaly I’ve just joined the RAuxAF with 4624 (movement) Sqd at RAF Brize Norton and still doing my BRTC. I a going through the process of joining the regulars as I enjoyed my first training weekend with the reserves so much and the RAF looks like it can provide me with a life I want.
I am applying to join as a mover. Its not my first choice but it will help me get to were I want to in the RAF.
I am applying to join as a mover. Its not my first choice but it will help me get to were I want to in the RAF.
My experience at a North Hampshire base in the late 80's:
Two male persons driving a speeding car suddenly swerve into a lay-by beside the station gym - just outside the Stn main gate at that time - they look around quickly and then grab a bag, slam doors and run over a footy field through to the runways - me now chasing as I am on live armed guard.
I warn by shouting several times and eventually manage to gain their attention by squatting down pointing my (live) weapon at them and they decide to stop!
I escort them back to the Gate where my oppo has requested the filf to join us ASAP.
After some time waiting, we tell the young snowdrop what has happened and we try to hand over the 'guests' to him - NO WAY!
It turns out he can't detain them, or arrest them, or even hand them over to the civs!
We ask WTF he is here for - and he says... "Security checks!"
They aint got the rights to put a civilian letter in an envelope.
The guests went free - they were spotters!
Two male persons driving a speeding car suddenly swerve into a lay-by beside the station gym - just outside the Stn main gate at that time - they look around quickly and then grab a bag, slam doors and run over a footy field through to the runways - me now chasing as I am on live armed guard.
I warn by shouting several times and eventually manage to gain their attention by squatting down pointing my (live) weapon at them and they decide to stop!
I escort them back to the Gate where my oppo has requested the filf to join us ASAP.
After some time waiting, we tell the young snowdrop what has happened and we try to hand over the 'guests' to him - NO WAY!
It turns out he can't detain them, or arrest them, or even hand them over to the civs!
We ask WTF he is here for - and he says... "Security checks!"
They aint got the rights to put a civilian letter in an envelope.
The guests went free - they were spotters!
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How about this, one evening in the late 80’s a rather drunken airman is making his way, calmly, quietly, back to his room, maybe not by the straightest route, being a little wobbly but he wasn’t causing any trouble. Outside the wire, 2 RAFP ACTING Cpls spy drunken airman and call him over.
They then demand his 1250. Drunken bloke is not that drunk and refuses saying they are outside the fence. . . . . to cut a long story short, things get a little heated and he tells them to “go away” in somewhat colourful language. 5 mins later 2 out of breath RAFPs appear inside the wire and nick him.
1 night in the cells and then a charge where he was found guilty, delaying the poor lads upcoming fitters course and promotion. I can’t remember the exact charges, there was more than one and still can’t believe he was charged especially as the 2 RAFPs even told it exactly as he did!!!!
How do I know – I was the escort on the charge.
They then demand his 1250. Drunken bloke is not that drunk and refuses saying they are outside the fence. . . . . to cut a long story short, things get a little heated and he tells them to “go away” in somewhat colourful language. 5 mins later 2 out of breath RAFPs appear inside the wire and nick him.
1 night in the cells and then a charge where he was found guilty, delaying the poor lads upcoming fitters course and promotion. I can’t remember the exact charges, there was more than one and still can’t believe he was charged especially as the 2 RAFPs even told it exactly as he did!!!!
How do I know – I was the escort on the charge.
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Rigger1, those two jumped up acting t*ssers would have been made full t*ssers for pressing this case.
CivPol find a slightly drunk airman making his merry way home via the kebeb van, gives a blue light taxi minus lights and siren to the main gate, tells airman he owes them a coffee at some point when he is next on guard.......
Airman goes inside and gets accosted by Dibble for arriving back at base in a panda car.
My own experience was similar, Out surfing and got hit in the face by my own board. drove back to camp with an eye shut and a hell of a shiner. Stopped at the guardroom and asked them to get me the duty medic ( I had run out of Brufen), Cops pitched up and interrogated me for an Hour until they finally believed I had not been in a fight, medic finally gets called, pitches up and asks them to get me to casualty and they argue with her.....
RAF coppers, generally I would not p^ss on them if they were on fire. I would hide the matches though
CivPol find a slightly drunk airman making his merry way home via the kebeb van, gives a blue light taxi minus lights and siren to the main gate, tells airman he owes them a coffee at some point when he is next on guard.......
Airman goes inside and gets accosted by Dibble for arriving back at base in a panda car.
My own experience was similar, Out surfing and got hit in the face by my own board. drove back to camp with an eye shut and a hell of a shiner. Stopped at the guardroom and asked them to get me the duty medic ( I had run out of Brufen), Cops pitched up and interrogated me for an Hour until they finally believed I had not been in a fight, medic finally gets called, pitches up and asks them to get me to casualty and they argue with her.....
RAF coppers, generally I would not p^ss on them if they were on fire. I would hide the matches though
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Dont know too much about todays RAFP but,....all this talk of showing your 1250 to the dog, load of cobblers! Back in the days of Borneo, whilst working in a "dark" munitions holding area, the duty "Rupert" comes charging up to the entrance in his landrover lights a blazing. Me and pooch watch him and wonder what the hell he is doing here....Out he gets and draws a sword stick whilst shouting out, "I am waiting corporal....." From the dark side,....now on my own I called,"You are not supposed to be here but....seeing as you are, say hello to my partner. He,s the one waiting to pounce sat on your rover bonnet..." A few oaths,threats follow so I call my dog in. Peculiar alimentary smell persists.....Next day, CO asks for an explanation. He then tells the flying occifer not to piddle about with the doggy boys....they get nasty
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asks them to get me to casualty and they argue with her.....
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Not RAFP but they are all cut from the same cloth.
RMP's in Belize get a shiney new radar gun to play with. Now, this is at the time when the lads kit is going missing left, right and center from the laundry and the whole camp is up in arms about it.
I'm sat in the Swamp when a call out comes in for a medevac of a soldier that had been bitten by an unknown snake, IIRC. When we get to the far side the Corporal Liney comes to me and asks if he can see me when I get beck because he's in a bit of trouble with the police. Upon getting back he tells me the story. He received the callout to and jumped in the SAR landrover, (the one with "SAR" in big dayglo letters across the front), and was "whizzing" out of APC to get to the a/c and prep it. Out leaps duty copper hand held high in a "Stop" fashion with a shiney new radar gun in the other hand. The Cpl dutifully stops and the copper asks him if he knows how fast he's going. Cpl says he has no idea. Cozzer tells him he was doing 17mph and that the speed limit on that road was, in fact, a snail-like 15mph. The Cpl. realizing that there are more important things to hand responded "I suppose this means you've caught the fekkers stealing our kit from the laundry", drops the clutch and takes off leaving the cozzers face as red beetroot.
I went across to the mess and had a word with the WO RMP who, fortunately was a good lad and something of a drinking buddy. We agreed that if landrovers with big SAR signs were going outbound then they were going after his buddies and should be left alone. If they were going any other direction they were far game... and that, since the Cpl. was outbound his acting, unpaid should be leashed in... He was...
RMP's in Belize get a shiney new radar gun to play with. Now, this is at the time when the lads kit is going missing left, right and center from the laundry and the whole camp is up in arms about it.
I'm sat in the Swamp when a call out comes in for a medevac of a soldier that had been bitten by an unknown snake, IIRC. When we get to the far side the Corporal Liney comes to me and asks if he can see me when I get beck because he's in a bit of trouble with the police. Upon getting back he tells me the story. He received the callout to and jumped in the SAR landrover, (the one with "SAR" in big dayglo letters across the front), and was "whizzing" out of APC to get to the a/c and prep it. Out leaps duty copper hand held high in a "Stop" fashion with a shiney new radar gun in the other hand. The Cpl dutifully stops and the copper asks him if he knows how fast he's going. Cpl says he has no idea. Cozzer tells him he was doing 17mph and that the speed limit on that road was, in fact, a snail-like 15mph. The Cpl. realizing that there are more important things to hand responded "I suppose this means you've caught the fekkers stealing our kit from the laundry", drops the clutch and takes off leaving the cozzers face as red beetroot.
I went across to the mess and had a word with the WO RMP who, fortunately was a good lad and something of a drinking buddy. We agreed that if landrovers with big SAR signs were going outbound then they were going after his buddies and should be left alone. If they were going any other direction they were far game... and that, since the Cpl. was outbound his acting, unpaid should be leashed in... He was...
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It's quite possible... I tell it wherever it seems appropriate. I was so impressed with the Corporal's quick thinking that, a few years ago when I was stopped by a cop for, in his words, "rolling through a stop sign" which he let me off but cited me instead for "failing to change the address on my license" I asked him if "this means you've caught all the drug dealers, rapists and murderers"... He wasn't impressed. He was less impressed when I made him come in to court and argue the point. He was less impressed when the judge accepted that I own both houses and that, since neither were rented to other people, the address on my license would be valid with either address.
If that Corporal Liney is reading this, thank you Sir... You know who you are...
It's quite possible... I tell it wherever it seems appropriate. I was so impressed with the Corporal's quick thinking that, a few years ago when I was stopped by a cop for, in his words, "rolling through a stop sign" which he let me off but cited me instead for "failing to change the address on my license" I asked him if "this means you've caught all the drug dealers, rapists and murderers"... He wasn't impressed. He was less impressed when I made him come in to court and argue the point. He was less impressed when the judge accepted that I own both houses and that, since neither were rented to other people, the address on my license would be valid with either address.
If that Corporal Liney is reading this, thank you Sir... You know who you are...
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Would appear that a lot of the anecdotes are focused on the past when we were all looking at each other across the Berlin wall and along came options for change, everyone looking for an excuse to justify their existence, pettiness and jobsworths all around......
Things have changed, all branches of the military police, RAFP included are now in great demand for mentoring of Iraqi and Afghan national police forces. Those drawing the long (or short depending on your inclination) straw get to meet the well armed travelling public of the host nation without the benefit of a large amount of firepower at their fingertips. My brother is a resistance to interrogation instructor (or whatever its called these days) and sees a fair few RAFP coming through his doors for preparation prior to deployment.
I imagine that there is a greater potential for a number of the RAFP to get to play on the two way firing range these days than any other ground trade lining up here to take the piss, except for the Rocks of course !
Things have changed, all branches of the military police, RAFP included are now in great demand for mentoring of Iraqi and Afghan national police forces. Those drawing the long (or short depending on your inclination) straw get to meet the well armed travelling public of the host nation without the benefit of a large amount of firepower at their fingertips. My brother is a resistance to interrogation instructor (or whatever its called these days) and sees a fair few RAFP coming through his doors for preparation prior to deployment.
I imagine that there is a greater potential for a number of the RAFP to get to play on the two way firing range these days than any other ground trade lining up here to take the piss, except for the Rocks of course !
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Nice reply RMAC.......must admit, In my day it was damned boring night after night guarding the Vulcans and Victors in case some pesky Russian nicked one or two...However, in respect of the original question, I never arrested anyone...the dog did. If he made a mistake and it turned out to be a civvy I always apologised for him.........except in Borneo.
.........except in Borneo.
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Having witnessed how P&SS totally ruined a fellow NCO and close friend of mines life in 2004, maybe these lying cheap suit wearing stitch up merchants should get out and do some ops with the rest of us.
And yes, if you read my past posts, I am now a civie but I have been out and done my bit in the sandpit.
And yes, if you read my past posts, I am now a civie but I have been out and done my bit in the sandpit.
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RMP's in Belize get a shiney new radar gun to play with. Now, this is at the time when the lads kit is going missing left, right and center from the laundry and the whole camp is up in arms about it.
I'm sat in the Swamp when a call out comes in for a medevac of a soldier that had been bitten by an unknown snake, IIRC. When we get to the far side the Corporal Liney comes to me and asks if he can see me when I get beck because he's in a bit of trouble with the police. Upon getting back he tells me the story. He received the callout to and jumped in the SAR landrover, (the one with "SAR" in big dayglo letters across the front), and was "whizzing" out of APC to get to the a/c and prep it. Out leaps duty copper hand held high in a "Stop" fashion with a shiney new radar gun in the other hand. The Cpl dutifully stops and the copper asks him if he knows how fast he's going. Cpl says he has no idea. Cozzer tells him he was doing 17mph and that the speed limit on that road was, in fact, a snail-like 15mph.
I'm sat in the Swamp when a call out comes in for a medevac of a soldier that had been bitten by an unknown snake, IIRC. When we get to the far side the Corporal Liney comes to me and asks if he can see me when I get beck because he's in a bit of trouble with the police. Upon getting back he tells me the story. He received the callout to and jumped in the SAR landrover, (the one with "SAR" in big dayglo letters across the front), and was "whizzing" out of APC to get to the a/c and prep it. Out leaps duty copper hand held high in a "Stop" fashion with a shiney new radar gun in the other hand. The Cpl dutifully stops and the copper asks him if he knows how fast he's going. Cpl says he has no idea. Cozzer tells him he was doing 17mph and that the speed limit on that road was, in fact, a snail-like 15mph.
My grandfather was called up into the RAF in WW2 and became an RAFP....not through choice. He always said it was a job someone had to do....but why did it have to be him??
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At Scampton I was a Cpl Techie on 617 Sqdn, one night I drove out to a Vulcan on a dispersal to rectify a snag. A dog handler is standing by the nosewheel and as I approach he stops me and asks what I'm doing. I explain and go to enter the aircraft he asks me for my 1250, I tell him it's in my jacket in the crewroom. He tells me I can't enter the aircraft without it. ''Oh! says I ''who said'', ''he did'' was his reply pointing to his alsation. I returned with 1250 10 mins later and fixed the snag. He let me pat the dog as I left!
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PN, spot on.
The letters QRA meant nothing to our RAFP colleagues.
Leeming. mid 90's, we were pre-briefed on something that 'may happen'. However, it then did happen half way through an 'Open Day', a Saturday.
Real launch rather than Display launch.
The result,
RAFP, nil points, but bloody nose's and dented pride.
QRA team, ten points plus 'job' well done.
Come the Monday, OC Snowdrop's wanted retribution against 11, 23 and 25 Sqn groundcrew's, a blanket 'fatwah'.
Stupidly, he said it in my earshot.
How I avoided a Court Martial after what I said to the guy, ( I didn't have the rank then, but I had the knowledge) beats me.
Fortunatley, the 'Powers that Be' backed be up (including Bastard Bill).
Unfortunately, for the rest of my time at Leeming, I was a marked man and had to suffer every petty dig that the RAFP could throw.
They threw them just 'so gently' as other's wouldn't notice. I did though. Paranoia or not, colleagues or not, I despised them.then, and despise them now.
I'm not normally so vehement. I've had an excellent reunion with friends, and, maybe, indulged in Austrailian Red Wine. If I upset anyone, tough tit.
The letters QRA meant nothing to our RAFP colleagues.
Leeming. mid 90's, we were pre-briefed on something that 'may happen'. However, it then did happen half way through an 'Open Day', a Saturday.
Real launch rather than Display launch.
The result,
RAFP, nil points, but bloody nose's and dented pride.
QRA team, ten points plus 'job' well done.
Come the Monday, OC Snowdrop's wanted retribution against 11, 23 and 25 Sqn groundcrew's, a blanket 'fatwah'.
Stupidly, he said it in my earshot.
How I avoided a Court Martial after what I said to the guy, ( I didn't have the rank then, but I had the knowledge) beats me.
Fortunatley, the 'Powers that Be' backed be up (including Bastard Bill).
Unfortunately, for the rest of my time at Leeming, I was a marked man and had to suffer every petty dig that the RAFP could throw.
They threw them just 'so gently' as other's wouldn't notice. I did though. Paranoia or not, colleagues or not, I despised them.then, and despise them now.
I'm not normally so vehement. I've had an excellent reunion with friends, and, maybe, indulged in Austrailian Red Wine. If I upset anyone, tough tit.
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Happened to all of us dear chap....I got nicked in Malaysia. Twenty first birthday and scheduled for duty. Asked the three striper for the shift off with reason.....no way. Sod you thought I, me and pooch will celebrate then. Took a bottle of rum on a comparitively "soft" area. Trouble was, he could not hold his booze! he puked on an Argosy wheel which upset the ground bods next day, who told,....their chief who told..... my boss......who sodding well woke me up with one ell of a hangover.....and then charged me for being in charge of a drunken weapon!!!!!!
Last time I took pooch out for a sauce tasting session...anyway, he never did buy a round.
Last time I took pooch out for a sauce tasting session...anyway, he never did buy a round.