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bowly 20th Oct 2008 16:28

RAF Police
 
Quick question. Do the RAF Police have the same powers of detention as the civilian police? For Example, if a civilian was apprehended on a married patch acting suspiciously (outside the wire but still on a part of the station that the filth patrol), can he/she be arrested and held in custody until the civilian plods arrive?

Daf Hucker 20th Oct 2008 16:30

I think that on some stations they are sworn in as special constables to the local police force, with whatever powers go with that.

Culio 20th Oct 2008 16:33

Well, I would expect so, seen as there is such a thing as citizens arrest! I'm a civvy and I could detain someone until the police arrived, so I expect they will be able to also :)

threeputt 20th Oct 2008 16:34

WTF has this got to do with military aircraft operations?

3P:rolleyes:

gar170 20th Oct 2008 16:40

Don't know about the same powers but are about as useful.:rolleyes:

dallas 20th Oct 2008 16:53


WTF has this got to do with military aircraft operations?

3P:rolleyes:
It's another "...backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the groun.." Oh no, sorry, my mistake - the RAFP have nothing to do with it.

airborne_artist 20th Oct 2008 16:54


civilian was apprehended on a married patch acting suspiciously


You probably can't carry out a Citizen's Arrest for acting suspiciously. The only grounds are:

• Arrest for an "indictable offence" under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984.
• Arrest of persons committing, or about to commit a Breach of the Peace under common law.
• Use of reasonable force to prevent crime or arrest offenders or persons unlawfully at large under the Criminal Law Act 1967.

greycoat 20th Oct 2008 17:42

It is/was the case that MOD plod had the powers of a PC within 5 miles of the military establishment. Or so we were told at Stafford a few years ago

bowly 20th Oct 2008 18:01

Many thanks for the gen which helps me out a lot.

Arbie 20th Oct 2008 19:19

Why, Bowly, what are you planning to do on the patch...?!

Champagne Anyone? 20th Oct 2008 19:30

They all have the common law powers of arrest.

So yes they can and no I won't go into them here.










Dog sitting for Champs...... ;)

bowly 20th Oct 2008 20:25

Just a question I was asked today and I didn't know the answer! I'm not planning any major daffodil bulb rustling!

scarecrow450 20th Oct 2008 21:23

A few RAFP told me they do not have any powers over civvies on or off the patch but a civ plod told me they do have the same powers as civ plod. Just don't think any one told RAFP ? :ugh:

Winco 21st Oct 2008 04:05

I seem to recall a few years ago the story of a civilian who arrived at a well known Mushroom farm base, and announced his arrival by driving his car into a building on the camp, totally ar$eholled.

The RAF police said that they couldn't breatherlise him as he was a civvie and they had no powers over him, so they called in the Civvie police.

They said that they couldn't breatherlise him, as the incident occurred on MOD property and they had no powers, and thus the chap was eventually let off, with neither bunch of policemen knowing who could do what, and to whome. A complete shambles.

Makes you wonder why we have civvie policemen at military airshows I suppose.

Blacksheep 21st Oct 2008 06:51

Military establishment, military law. You're drunk if in the the opinion of a superior officer you're drunk. No breathalyzer needed.

Educated Armourer 21st Oct 2008 07:39

Three coppers died and went to heaven. St Peter asked the first what he did during his life and he replied that he was in CID. "That's great" said St Peter, "sit on God's right hand side, he loves detectives". He then asked the second the same question and the reply was that he had been FBI. "That's great" said St Peter, "go and sit on God's left hand side, he loves detectives and all that exciting police stuff". St Peter then turned to the third copper and asked the same question. The third replied that he had been in the RAF Police. "That's great" said St Peter, "can you look after the gate, I'm gagging for a P!$$"

NutLoose 21st Oct 2008 11:11

They used to throw their dummies out when you showed your ID card to the Dog and when asked why by the said Dog Handler, you informed him that the dog was 99% of the brains of the outfit.... :ok:

scarecrow450 21st Oct 2008 12:20

RAFP paid the same as techies, blimey no wonder the country's skint !!!! :eek:

Doobs 21st Oct 2008 13:22

It looks like this thread is going to bring up all the hilarious jokes about showing ID's to Police Dogs. Its amazing how everyone has claimed to do that but very few have or would have dared to !

Higher pay band sounds good to me. How do I join??

Doobs

Hamish 123 21st Oct 2008 16:47

During the ball after my graduation parade at Cranwell in the early eighties, an RAFP who was on my flight (coming up from the ranks), with whom I thought I had a cordial enough relationship throughout IOT, sidled up to me and said something along the lines of "I'll be watching you . . . wherever you're posted, I'll be looking out for you, and if you make a single mistake . . . ".

To this day, I still cannot think what I did to deserve such special treatment.


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