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VS,
All Officer jobs have an essay component on Assessment Day, including Pilot. Don't be too stressed, it'll only go for half an hour and they're not expecting a novel. Hell, I didn't even finish mine when I had mine for Reserve GSO and 0 shits were given by the Psych as far as I could tell. You might not want to do that though, finishing is good.
All Officer jobs have an essay component on Assessment Day, including Pilot. Don't be too stressed, it'll only go for half an hour and they're not expecting a novel. Hell, I didn't even finish mine when I had mine for Reserve GSO and 0 shits were given by the Psych as far as I could tell. You might not want to do that though, finishing is good.
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Thanks Dilmah.
I'm not terribly concerned with my written expression, I just wanted to brush up on some content for anything that we may be required to write about. Were you given a selection of topics or asked to write about one thing in particular?
I don't think it would be terribly difficult to guess that the questions will revolve around topics of leadership, motivation, communication or expectations of the adf etc., but the wings book has sample questions relating to topics like WW2 and Anzac day, which I'll admit I don't have an extensive or detailed knowledge of.
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VS
I'm not terribly concerned with my written expression, I just wanted to brush up on some content for anything that we may be required to write about. Were you given a selection of topics or asked to write about one thing in particular?
I don't think it would be terribly difficult to guess that the questions will revolve around topics of leadership, motivation, communication or expectations of the adf etc., but the wings book has sample questions relating to topics like WW2 and Anzac day, which I'll admit I don't have an extensive or detailed knowledge of.
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VS,
Honestly mate, I can't remember too much. I did this back in about Feb now, but I believe it was just one question. From memory, mine was something about the Victoria Cross. Either that, or I recall mentioning it in my response.
That list you've got seems to cover the general ballpark of questions I've heard of people getting, and to be honest, you'd probably be better served by searching this thread for the word 'essay' than my response, because I remember literally 6/5 of **** all.
I can tell from your written expression that you're not illiterate, and so you should be fine. Although if I was the psych, I'd find a lack of knowledge about ANZAC Day and WWII a bit concerning from someone who wants to be a part of a service to whom those two mean quite a bit too. Take that with a grain of salt, though - my degree couldn't be further from psychology!
You'll write another essay at your Officer Selection Board, and that will be one (in my experience) which you'll have ample prep material for. If you get that far, concentrating on essay basics and generally being confident and direct with what you're saying might be a good idea, but otherwise I wouldn't stress too much about the essay on Assessment Day.
Honestly mate, I can't remember too much. I did this back in about Feb now, but I believe it was just one question. From memory, mine was something about the Victoria Cross. Either that, or I recall mentioning it in my response.
That list you've got seems to cover the general ballpark of questions I've heard of people getting, and to be honest, you'd probably be better served by searching this thread for the word 'essay' than my response, because I remember literally 6/5 of **** all.
I can tell from your written expression that you're not illiterate, and so you should be fine. Although if I was the psych, I'd find a lack of knowledge about ANZAC Day and WWII a bit concerning from someone who wants to be a part of a service to whom those two mean quite a bit too. Take that with a grain of salt, though - my degree couldn't be further from psychology!
You'll write another essay at your Officer Selection Board, and that will be one (in my experience) which you'll have ample prep material for. If you get that far, concentrating on essay basics and generally being confident and direct with what you're saying might be a good idea, but otherwise I wouldn't stress too much about the essay on Assessment Day.
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Thanks mate,
That was some good advice. I had my Assessment Day today and the essay was nothing to worry about. It was a 3 part question, and so ended up being more like 3 short answer questions and was related to my desire to be an officer, personal qualities that I have which are pertinent to the commission and one other thing which I've since forgotten.
I've been recommended by both psychology and defence (very competitively from what I've been told), but unfortunately I've been issued with a class 3R medical for ambiguity surrounding a *possible* migraine that I had when I was 12 and an unconfirmed acid reflux diagnosis. I'll get specialist reports for both of these and hopefully everything clears up. I had no idea that either of these things would be serious issues!
VS
That was some good advice. I had my Assessment Day today and the essay was nothing to worry about. It was a 3 part question, and so ended up being more like 3 short answer questions and was related to my desire to be an officer, personal qualities that I have which are pertinent to the commission and one other thing which I've since forgotten.
I've been recommended by both psychology and defence (very competitively from what I've been told), but unfortunately I've been issued with a class 3R medical for ambiguity surrounding a *possible* migraine that I had when I was 12 and an unconfirmed acid reflux diagnosis. I'll get specialist reports for both of these and hopefully everything clears up. I had no idea that either of these things would be serious issues!
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Rank following Employment Training
A quick question for those who may be able to help. I am curious to know what initial rank DEO and ADFA Officer Cadets are provided upon completion of initial employment training? I have heard both PLTOFF and FLGOFF.
Any help via PM or post would be great.
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Dan
Any help via PM or post would be great.
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@frappe: Are you sure? I was under the impression that directly after having completed ADFA, cadets were awarded the rank of FLGOFF (pre employment training), and DEO were awarded the rank of PLTOFF having completed OTS. I have also heard that degree qualified DEO candidates who graduate OTS are awarded a FLGOFF rank.
Happy to be corrected as I can't find where I read this, and may be outdated, but this was certainly the impression I got after my conversation with a FLTLT last week.
Happy to be corrected as I can't find where I read this, and may be outdated, but this was certainly the impression I got after my conversation with a FLTLT last week.
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I should've clarified I'm probably not an extremely reliable source, I was just going off what I'd read on the RAAF and defencejobs sites, so I could be very wrong, but I haven't heard anything about degree-qualified applicants going straight to FLGOFF. I'd be interested to know if anyone knows for sure though.
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DEO have the rank of OFFCDT until finishing Pilots course. Then if you have a Degree you will be given the rank of FLGOFF, if you do not you will be a PLTOFF.
For ADFA graduates they are given PLTOFF on completion from ADFA unless they are Btech Aero students, who remain an OFFCDT. They only do two years at ADFA, using pilots course as the final year of their degree. Upon successful completion of Pilots course all ADFA graduates assume FLGOFF.
For ADFA graduates they are given PLTOFF on completion from ADFA unless they are Btech Aero students, who remain an OFFCDT. They only do two years at ADFA, using pilots course as the final year of their degree. Upon successful completion of Pilots course all ADFA graduates assume FLGOFF.
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Hi Brendan,
You will find the answers to all of your questions, and many that you have not yet asked in the contents of this thread. I would suggest reading through the entire thing as soon as possible; I've found it a great source of information and invaluable in terms of preparation for the recruiting process.
Also in terms of what to expect and what the ADF are looking for, the "Wings" book is also a good preparation tool if you can afford the $40 to buy it: Get Your Wings
Ah, this makes sense.. and would explain why there isn't an outstanding ROSO for DEO candidates who fail their employment training. I was assuming that the increase in pay having finished OTS was for a commission.
You will find the answers to all of your questions, and many that you have not yet asked in the contents of this thread. I would suggest reading through the entire thing as soon as possible; I've found it a great source of information and invaluable in terms of preparation for the recruiting process.
Also in terms of what to expect and what the ADF are looking for, the "Wings" book is also a good preparation tool if you can afford the $40 to buy it: Get Your Wings
Originally Posted by Rogan82
DEO have the rank of OFFCDT until finishing Pilots course. Then if you have a Degree you will be given the rank of FLGOFF, if you do not you will be a PLTOFF.
For ADFA graduates they are given PLTOFF on completion from ADFA unless they are Btech Aero students, who remain an OFFCDT. They only do two years at ADFA, using pilots course as the final year of their degree. Upon successful completion of Pilots course all ADFA graduates assume FLGOFF.
For ADFA graduates they are given PLTOFF on completion from ADFA unless they are Btech Aero students, who remain an OFFCDT. They only do two years at ADFA, using pilots course as the final year of their degree. Upon successful completion of Pilots course all ADFA graduates assume FLGOFF.
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PERSEC
Brendan,
I'd highly recommend you message one of the moderators or admins here and see if you can get that username of yours changed, as well as editing your post so that your full name isn't present.
It's all well and good to allow the thread participants to become familiar with you, but using your real name on the internet in conjunction with some specific details about your activity in a place where your anonymity in the recruiting process and personal security in general can be compromised is not a smart move. Facebook notwithstanding.
I'd highly recommend you message one of the moderators or admins here and see if you can get that username of yours changed, as well as editing your post so that your full name isn't present.
It's all well and good to allow the thread participants to become familiar with you, but using your real name on the internet in conjunction with some specific details about your activity in a place where your anonymity in the recruiting process and personal security in general can be compromised is not a smart move. Facebook notwithstanding.
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The information regarding the BTech guys at ADFA is a little dated. All degrees are now a minimum of three years in length and ADFA RAAF undergraduates all leave as PLTOFFs and receive their next promotion upon gaining their wings. Promotion to FLTLT is then, from memory, five years after that although that may have changed with the new promotion requirements.
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After having a conversation with my enlistment coordinator today, I can confirm that they've changed the structure of FSP to split courses into:
Basic: <10 hours
Intermediate: 10-50 hours
Advanced: 50+ hours
Basic: <10 hours
Intermediate: 10-50 hours
Advanced: 50+ hours
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ADFA Pilot Offers
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone on here could tell me if offers for ADFA pilot come out today? If not today, then can anyone tell me the correct date please?
Thanks in advance,
Generate.
Just wondering if anyone on here could tell me if offers for ADFA pilot come out today? If not today, then can anyone tell me the correct date please?
Thanks in advance,
Generate.
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Depends on how you performed during your YOU session, specialist testing and assesment day. There isn't really any way of knowing for sure. Talk to your case manager and ask them how competative you are for a position.
