Loss of RAF Data
Champagne anyone...?
Out tit witted police farce have done a fabulous job of applying for planning permission for a stable after the horse has bolted with this one. Their collective knee has jerked so hard they've kicked their own teeth out.....
The blanket ban on the use of IT off base shows a tremendously slender grasp of the realities of the real world. As well as banning the use of flight planning laptops off base they're also restricting us using PDAs too. Laptops and PDAs that have nothing secret, sensitive or interesting on them.
I'm going to suggest that as our aircraft have a few computers on them then we should consider not leatting those off base. In fact, my flying suit's got my name on it.... Better leave that on camp to.....
I do despair sometimes....
The blanket ban on the use of IT off base shows a tremendously slender grasp of the realities of the real world. As well as banning the use of flight planning laptops off base they're also restricting us using PDAs too. Laptops and PDAs that have nothing secret, sensitive or interesting on them.
I'm going to suggest that as our aircraft have a few computers on them then we should consider not leatting those off base. In fact, my flying suit's got my name on it.... Better leave that on camp to.....
I do despair sometimes....
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It was bound to be a smack head needing a quick buck. He'll have nicked it and sold it on quickly. The information is unlikely to be used and has most likely been deleted/ ignored.
The same information could most likely be found by looking through your rubbish!
Yes, it shouldn't have happened. Yes, heads should roll. As for compensation/courts ... forget about it, your wasting your time.
..... and yes, my details were on the laptop!
The same information could most likely be found by looking through your rubbish!
Yes, it shouldn't have happened. Yes, heads should roll. As for compensation/courts ... forget about it, your wasting your time.
..... and yes, my details were on the laptop!
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What on earth is going on at the MOD?
Letter number 3 arrived this morning for my youngest, every one exactly the same!
A competition could be started, who gets the most copies of the same letter
Letter number 3 arrived this morning for my youngest, every one exactly the same!
A competition could be started, who gets the most copies of the same letter
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Off to see my MP next week, having found out that the MOD lost some of my personal data. Then on to legal advice, I suspect; the Data Protection Act states that data can only be held for as long as it is required; why they're still keeping personal data from when I applied to join up is quite beyond me, but I'm reasonably sure that there are some tough questions to be asked.
Stoppers, the CIS-pig iPlods have always floundered about in the dark ages of IT! Some bristling little Stasi-type once thought that, by using the squadron BBC Master to calculate turn range data, I was breaking his Rules. "Wot's it going to be used for?", he demanded. "You don't Need To Know", I explained, "Anyway, trignometry is hardly a state secret!". Fortunately the Boss told him to do one.
I'm intrigued to know how AAR trails can be managed away from base if Plod prevents the AARCs from using planning software.
A few 24 hr delays in expensive locations whilst everything is laboriously faxed back and forth, perhaps?
Back in the days of steam-planning AAR trails, there was often an extra day built in to allow the AARC with his (they were always 'him' back then) charts, dividers, Dalton spinwheel, piece of string (honest!), lodestone, quadrant and abacus to crunch his numbers. That was for relatively straightforward trails such as Akrotiri - UK. But nowadays the luxury of sufficient people and time to cope without the use of computers has disappeared.
I suppose you can always go to an Internet cafe and Google for some MSFS geek's flight planning website?
Or maybe the iPlods will have to accompany you around the world, with your flight planning laptops manacled to their trotters with a stainless steel chain?
I'm intrigued to know how AAR trails can be managed away from base if Plod prevents the AARCs from using planning software.
A few 24 hr delays in expensive locations whilst everything is laboriously faxed back and forth, perhaps?
Back in the days of steam-planning AAR trails, there was often an extra day built in to allow the AARC with his (they were always 'him' back then) charts, dividers, Dalton spinwheel, piece of string (honest!), lodestone, quadrant and abacus to crunch his numbers. That was for relatively straightforward trails such as Akrotiri - UK. But nowadays the luxury of sufficient people and time to cope without the use of computers has disappeared.
I suppose you can always go to an Internet cafe and Google for some MSFS geek's flight planning website?
Or maybe the iPlods will have to accompany you around the world, with your flight planning laptops manacled to their trotters with a stainless steel chain?
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The Administrators never acknowledged my letter informing them of my move to France - only sent because it meant I was no longer liable for Reserve Service.
Perhaps MOD could arrange for Paymaster to add a one sentence statement to the P 60's they will shortly be dispatching worldwide as to whether or not the recipients personal data was lost on this computer.
Perhaps MOD could arrange for Paymaster to add a one sentence statement to the P 60's they will shortly be dispatching worldwide as to whether or not the recipients personal data was lost on this computer.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Miss PN2 received her letter today. It was dated 24th Jan. I guess the 11 day delay is because the post office couldn't handle half a million letters on day 1.
When Mrs PN saw the requirement to prove identity her reaction was a more volcanic reaction than some mentioned here earlier.
The only bright spot is that Miss PN2 is now Mrs xx1. However Mr xx1 is probably going to get a letter too.
When Mrs PN saw the requirement to prove identity her reaction was a more volcanic reaction than some mentioned here earlier.
The only bright spot is that Miss PN2 is now Mrs xx1. However Mr xx1 is probably going to get a letter too.
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I'm not sure which is worse:
1 - losing data on those who applied, (we're interested in you, but we don't respect your rights, and we're not very good at paying on time, so continue at your peril)
2 - those who failed FATs/AIB/OASC (here's another kick in the teeth, look on the bright side - we're not c@cking up your pay)
or 3 - those who did join (if you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined, and we still reserve the right to c@ck up your pay,allowances etc)
1 - losing data on those who applied, (we're interested in you, but we don't respect your rights, and we're not very good at paying on time, so continue at your peril)
2 - those who failed FATs/AIB/OASC (here's another kick in the teeth, look on the bright side - we're not c@cking up your pay)
or 3 - those who did join (if you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined, and we still reserve the right to c@ck up your pay,allowances etc)
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
As the ex-Miss PN2 observed, it is a matter of luck that she got the letter as she is now on her 4th or 5th address. She expects Mr XX1's letter to be going round the bazaars too.
She also wonders which part of the database her info was. Was it dark blue or light blue?
She also wonders which part of the database her info was. Was it dark blue or light blue?
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got my letter today
all my info is now in someones hands cheers
passport number
name
ni number
and bank details
another cock up by someone
and what the fook is all that info doin on a laptop in the back of someones car
all my info is now in someones hands cheers
passport number
name
ni number
and bank details
another cock up by someone
and what the fook is all that info doin on a laptop in the back of someones car
MoD Hiring Laptops?
I understand MoD is now hiring laptops!
Despite best efforts, there are still a few laptops left in MB, but the recent ill-thought-out directives (issued with the aim of covering Swiss Wotsisname's Arse rather than with any genuine intent of protecting data) prevent the MoD from using its own!
As a result, they are having to hire-in laptops, which don't come under the edict, so can be taken off-unit without breaching the regulations.
You couldn't make it up (or perhaps I just did).
F
Despite best efforts, there are still a few laptops left in MB, but the recent ill-thought-out directives (issued with the aim of covering Swiss Wotsisname's Arse rather than with any genuine intent of protecting data) prevent the MoD from using its own!
As a result, they are having to hire-in laptops, which don't come under the edict, so can be taken off-unit without breaching the regulations.
You couldn't make it up (or perhaps I just did).
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Everyone is rightly pissed off at the stupidity of having so many records on the one laptop (leaving the location aside for a moment). It has been suggested that a large qty of info of one classification becomes, in aggregate, a higher classification... a principle I recall too.
Question is (and I have been wondering this for a while) how then is JPA classified? It does contain an aweful lot of (admittedly often wrong
) data on serving personnel. Some are rightly concerned about the danger of it falling into the worst hands... what if JPA is successfuly hacked? 
It may be difficult but the scale of the 'reward' must dictate that it be worth some effort. Terrorist access to JPA would be potentialy worse since all on it are guarenteed to be serving, this laptop data is not so 'pure' in that many never joined.
Could a cunning terrorist corrupt JPA in order to prevent those serving from recieving their pay? Just imagine what it would do to morale and retention if thousands of servicemen and women were underpaid every month and nothing was done about it...
Question is (and I have been wondering this for a while) how then is JPA classified? It does contain an aweful lot of (admittedly often wrong
) data on serving personnel. Some are rightly concerned about the danger of it falling into the worst hands... what if JPA is successfuly hacked? It may be difficult but the scale of the 'reward' must dictate that it be worth some effort. Terrorist access to JPA would be potentialy worse since all on it are guarenteed to be serving, this laptop data is not so 'pure' in that many never joined.Could a cunning terrorist corrupt JPA in order to prevent those serving from recieving their pay? Just imagine what it would do to morale and retention if thousands of servicemen and women were underpaid every month and nothing was done about it...
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On reflection I think that any would-be hacker would be well advised to leave JPA alone... I think most would agree that the destruction being wrought from within will be more effective than that possible from without...
Edited for muppetry.
Edited for muppetry.