Loss of RAF Data
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Loss of RAF Data
MOD confirms loss of recruitment data
The Ministry of Defence can confirm that a laptop was stolen from a Royal Navy officer in Birmingham last week, on the night of 9/10 January, and as a result, a large quantity of personal data has been lost
The stolen laptop contained personal information relating to some 600,000 people who have either expressed an interest in, or have joined, the Royal Navy, Royal Marines and the Royal Air Force.
The stolen laptop contained personal information relating to some 600,000 people who have either expressed an interest in, or have joined, the Royal Navy, Royal Marines and the Royal Air Force.
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That is serious information according to the link. Was it encrypted? Password protected? Lets hope the laptop was stolen by a junkie just wanting £20 for his next fix, and that the data has been wiped.
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So that will include details of AA Junior, and a fair few posters on the OASC thread. Luckily AA Junior is not yet 18, so applications for credit cards in her name won't get very far.
600,000 names/details ??
I just wonder how far that will go back 5 - 6 years or more ??
Won't affect me, they were still using quills and parchment when I joined ( thought I'd say it before anyone else did
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I just wonder how far that will go back 5 - 6 years or more ??
Won't affect me, they were still using quills and parchment when I joined ( thought I'd say it before anyone else did
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applications for credit cards
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
My laptop has an encrypted hard drive. A real b
r to use. So difficult in fact that the login and password routine stay with the laptop.
Now in that is not a bad thing, provided they are held separately from the laptop when in an insecure area.
Now of course it would never have been in the laptop case with the laptop. Would it?
If it wasn't in the case then I am sure he would have kept it secure in his briefcase and not left that in the car with the laptop. He would wouldn't he?
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r to use. So difficult in fact that the login and password routine stay with the laptop.Now in that is not a bad thing, provided they are held separately from the laptop when in an insecure area.
Now of course it would never have been in the laptop case with the laptop. Would it?
If it wasn't in the case then I am sure he would have kept it secure in his briefcase and not left that in the car with the laptop. He would wouldn't he?
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Just shown my daughter the link. It is almost certain her full details are in that laptop somewhere. She is not happy.
I gave her plenty of moral support by taking the pi$$ out of the Navy and the incompetence of leaving such an item in a car in Birmingham. I did, of course, forget to mention the GW1 Wg Cdr Laptop incident.
Seriously though, my daughter’s information will almost definitely be there so if anybody has any more gen or advice please PM me.
I gave her plenty of moral support by taking the pi$$ out of the Navy and the incompetence of leaving such an item in a car in Birmingham. I did, of course, forget to mention the GW1 Wg Cdr Laptop incident.
Seriously though, my daughter’s information will almost definitely be there so if anybody has any more gen or advice please PM me.
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The BBCi page has been updated:
"But for those who progressed as far as submitting an application to join the Forces, extensive personal data may be held, including passport details, National Insurance numbers, drivers' licence details, family details, doctors' addresses and National Health Service numbers."
"The MoD said it was writing to 3,500 people whose bank details were on the laptop's database."
The most surprising (and uncorroberated) quote is:
"Simon Davies, from pressure group Privacy International, told BBC News 24 he was "flabbergasted". "I cannot believe that our flagship security agency (what does he mean?) cannot get this right," Mr Davies said.
"The idea that someone could have the computer with the information unencrypted - it is on a par with the HMRC loss."
You do also have to ask what kind of data-management solution is designed to enable a laptop to contain so much key data. Why does it need to be on a laptop at all? Surely some/much of the info can be held on a server and viewed over a secure link when needed?
"But for those who progressed as far as submitting an application to join the Forces, extensive personal data may be held, including passport details, National Insurance numbers, drivers' licence details, family details, doctors' addresses and National Health Service numbers."
"The MoD said it was writing to 3,500 people whose bank details were on the laptop's database."
The most surprising (and uncorroberated) quote is:
"Simon Davies, from pressure group Privacy International, told BBC News 24 he was "flabbergasted". "I cannot believe that our flagship security agency (what does he mean?) cannot get this right," Mr Davies said.
"The idea that someone could have the computer with the information unencrypted - it is on a par with the HMRC loss."
You do also have to ask what kind of data-management solution is designed to enable a laptop to contain so much key data. Why does it need to be on a laptop at all? Surely some/much of the info can be held on a server and viewed over a secure link when needed?
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According to a completely reliable source, Mrs PN said that if the information was encrypted it would be a given that the encryption passwords would have been with the laptop.
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Just in case you have found the laptop without the attached passwords inside just rely on the good traditional infosec tradition of using the word 'password' as this seems to be a good starter for ten on any MOD laptop I have the displeasure of using.
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tumeseh has it right. They made it TFD so that dymotape was the only way.
Now of course i don't have any notes on my desk with my random 21 alfa password do I?
the obvious solution is too easy for the plods.
Now I had one of my own passwords that was a simple one like:
"Oh to go down to the seas again to the lonely seas and the sky"
Try cracking that with a dictionary cracker program.
Now of course i don't have any notes on my desk with my random 21 alfa password do I?
the obvious solution is too easy for the plods.
Now I had one of my own passwords that was a simple one like:
"Oh to go down to the seas again to the lonely seas and the sky"
Try cracking that with a dictionary cracker program.
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Thief steals MoD laptop with details of 600,000 staff - The Mail
And the government wants everyone to trust them with ID card details? I think not somehow - either that policy is washed up, or this government is! Perhaps both.
Incredibly, the information was not encrypted - meaning it would be easily accessed by anyone with basic technological knowledge.
And the government wants everyone to trust them with ID card details? I think not somehow - either that policy is washed up, or this government is! Perhaps both.
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At least you now know that when you get an email from the "desk of" Jokoma Hungalunga inviting you to act for him with your bank account you will know that you definitely have been 'personally' selected and that he already has your account details!
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never mind, the poor sods get to join us who's details that were "lost" on the disk that had the child benefit details on it! me thinks that this government are hanging on by a thread to any trust we may have had in the system or their ability to look after us. as for any one with brain cells, then i'm afraid we are at a complete loss. that's because not long after my details were lost i received a letter from the child benefit agency apologising that they had lost my details and were doing all they could to get them back, so imagine my suprise when at the top right hand corner of the letter were my details. i felt like writing back to them and saying " guess what i've found them!" 
plebs the bloody lot of them
plebs the bloody lot of them
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Wasn't there a Wingco who stopped to look at a car showroom, leaving Orbats etc for Granby on a laptop in his boot? Which went awol.
I wonder if there's such a thing as a time lock for hard drives.. even with access verified, data is unobtainable for a certain time, and possibly an auto wipe facility?
Either way, this isn't good. I have opted out of the NHS records system, and I am anti ID card, not on principle, but because I don't trust g'ment to a) do its job properly and preserve my security and b) stick to its word about what the ID card will be used for.
I wonder if there's such a thing as a time lock for hard drives.. even with access verified, data is unobtainable for a certain time, and possibly an auto wipe facility?
Either way, this isn't good. I have opted out of the NHS records system, and I am anti ID card, not on principle, but because I don't trust g'ment to a) do its job properly and preserve my security and b) stick to its word about what the ID card will be used for.