Nimrod families angry at OBE
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I sincerely hope that Martin Cannard has read the QinetiQ report, but some how I do not think he has. No one can read that report and believe the aircraft fuel systems are safe, as he and the Stn Cmdr claim ----- Perhaps this should be on the other thread?
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Outstanding post Sir
...........Roland I am pretty sure in the months to come you will look back on your post and realise that it was without doubt "not your finest hour"
Outstanding post Sir
...........Roland I am pretty sure in the months to come you will look back on your post and realise that it was without doubt "not your finest hour"
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“The real problem here is that you folk have to have the last word”
May I respectfully suggest that the real problem is that if folk whose primary aim is to attain and maintain airworthiness do not have the last word, then more avoidable deaths will occur.
May I respectfully suggest that the real problem is that if folk whose primary aim is to attain and maintain airworthiness do not have the last word, then more avoidable deaths will occur.
Not initially wanting to enter into this discussion but feel i ought to give my support to Martin Cannard.
Having served with him on 3 different units, i have the highest regard for his integrity and officer qualities, unlike many other senior officers still serving.
On 206, we lost a nav due to a serious illness, Martin as nav leader and deputy sqn cdr acted incredible well for both the family and the sqn members.
His award comes for his considerate actions following the sad loss of crew 3, he didn`t volunteer but was thrown in at the deep end, no blame for the loss can be laid at his feet. I think the families were very fortunate in such difficult circumstances to have Martin as the CO, and not some other wg cdr.
Congratulations on a well earned OBE.
Having served with him on 3 different units, i have the highest regard for his integrity and officer qualities, unlike many other senior officers still serving.
On 206, we lost a nav due to a serious illness, Martin as nav leader and deputy sqn cdr acted incredible well for both the family and the sqn members.
His award comes for his considerate actions following the sad loss of crew 3, he didn`t volunteer but was thrown in at the deep end, no blame for the loss can be laid at his feet. I think the families were very fortunate in such difficult circumstances to have Martin as the CO, and not some other wg cdr.
Congratulations on a well earned OBE.
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Originally Posted by winco
Nevertheless, it has clearly caused concern for Mr Knight, in that he see's someone as effectively 'profiting' from the crash
Of course, selling papers is never the aim of researching a story!!
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Ladies and Gentlemen, it would seem that anyone who had anything to say re. this award has said it. May I suggest we now show our respects to crew 3 and their families by bringing this particular Nimrod thread to a close?
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I don't know Wg Cdr Cannard, but I have been deeply involved in several multi-engine fatal accidents.
I know that the Sqn Execs have one hell of a job on their hands with the families, not to mention the effects officers [or whatever they are called these days]. It is an incredibly stressful time. The OC in particular has not only to deal with the families [and their close relatives, which can be a terrible time], but they have to deal with the guys on the Sqn, keeping them going despite the loss of close friends and colleagues.
After 2 weeks on the Sqn, Wg Cdr Cannard had to deal with it all, compounded by the fact that he probably did not know some of the crew or their families.
In my view, the award was thoroughly deserved. The families would probably agree, given the chance away from the media frenzy...
I know that the Sqn Execs have one hell of a job on their hands with the families, not to mention the effects officers [or whatever they are called these days]. It is an incredibly stressful time. The OC in particular has not only to deal with the families [and their close relatives, which can be a terrible time], but they have to deal with the guys on the Sqn, keeping them going despite the loss of close friends and colleagues.
After 2 weeks on the Sqn, Wg Cdr Cannard had to deal with it all, compounded by the fact that he probably did not know some of the crew or their families.
In my view, the award was thoroughly deserved. The families would probably agree, given the chance away from the media frenzy...
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Seeing that Mr Knight has once again come out of the woodwork on other threads, would it be too much trouble for him to comment on his opinion to this thread???
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Seeing that Mr Knight has once again come out of the woodwork on other threads, would it be too much trouble for him to comment on his opinion to this thread???
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I understand my son Ben was out in Afghanistan helping NATO to put in place democratic structures and to allow the freedom of speech to the Afghan people which was suppressed under the Taliban.
I have exercised my right to my freedom of Speech in the press which I have every right to do.
I am very sorry that what I said seems to have upset you so greatly,
however I spoke to Martin Cannard on 7th January about his OBE and we agreed to respect each others point of view and to move on.
Perhaps as others have suggested you should do the same.
I understand my son Ben was out in Afghanistan helping NATO to put in place democratic structures and to allow the freedom of speech to the Afghan people which was suppressed under the Taliban.
I have exercised my right to my freedom of Speech in the press which I have every right to do.
I am very sorry that what I said seems to have upset you so greatly,
however I spoke to Martin Cannard on 7th January about his OBE and we agreed to respect each others point of view and to move on.
Perhaps as others have suggested you should do the same.
