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I've just seen this item on the BBC News.
They are trying to raise a heap of cash to help all injured servicemen/women.
Please take a look at their website:
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
Thanks.
If in Doubt BANG OUT.
They are trying to raise a heap of cash to help all injured servicemen/women.
Please take a look at their website:
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
Thanks.
If in Doubt BANG OUT.
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I watched that too, and read this earlier..
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2558222.ece
I'm not sure what Parry means though, when he refers to this; "Obviously the MoD can’t blow its budget on this - it has other more urgent priorities. Where we come in is that we can help to raise the funds so our soldiers get really excellent facilities."
I wonder whats more urgent than looking after injured troops? We should be able to expect a decent level of service from the military and the g'ment, without having to depend on handouts from Currys for free MP3 players.
There are lots of good websites and causes already too. The Legion has done well at Headley, as have our less than glamourous mates on ARRSE (and us, and others). Given that the public 'give' to military charities is in decline, I wonder if another cause (however worthy) like this isn't going to slice up an already diminishing cake. I wonder if, before we start to blindly ask for yet more money from the public, we shouldn't be putting in place the right public perception of the Forces first. Its a long term task, and it wouldn't reap short term rewards or fixes. This is a good site. It asks for nothing.. it simply promotes what the ethos is about.. it provides a springboard.
http://www.purplesalute.org/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2558222.ece
I'm not sure what Parry means though, when he refers to this; "Obviously the MoD can’t blow its budget on this - it has other more urgent priorities. Where we come in is that we can help to raise the funds so our soldiers get really excellent facilities."
I wonder whats more urgent than looking after injured troops? We should be able to expect a decent level of service from the military and the g'ment, without having to depend on handouts from Currys for free MP3 players.There are lots of good websites and causes already too. The Legion has done well at Headley, as have our less than glamourous mates on ARRSE (and us, and others). Given that the public 'give' to military charities is in decline, I wonder if another cause (however worthy) like this isn't going to slice up an already diminishing cake. I wonder if, before we start to blindly ask for yet more money from the public, we shouldn't be putting in place the right public perception of the Forces first. Its a long term task, and it wouldn't reap short term rewards or fixes. This is a good site. It asks for nothing.. it simply promotes what the ethos is about.. it provides a springboard.
http://www.purplesalute.org/
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It's a charity so its difficult to knock, however it may divert funds from well established charities such as SSAFA. Where was Mr Parry when the fight for Ahstead was on, that was all for Headley, and surely this charity has been a long time in the planning. No wonder it has the backing from the people at the top, it allows the Government and the military to abdicate it's reponsibility for the welfare of its troops to the general public.
I have a feeling that Mr Parry has not done his research since he was a rifleman 22 years ago. He is too quick to say the charity is non political, so why canvass the approval of those who are politically motivated. he also says that H4H "is about the blokes, it's about the blokes". Mr Parry the services now have both genders and men and women both get injured. The organisation is also working 'closely with the Army Benevolunt Fund', I have no problem with that, but what about the RN and the RAF personnel who have been injured. Headley is a tri-service rehabilitation center. Get it right at the start and you might make some money for our 'servicemen and women from the British Armed Forces'!
Go to the 'who are we 'page on their website, and note how Mr Parry has a link to his commercial booksite under his pen picture mmmm!
Comments quoted on the site by MP's and the Under Sec of State for Defence mmmmmm! Non-political
I have a feeling that Mr Parry has not done his research since he was a rifleman 22 years ago. He is too quick to say the charity is non political, so why canvass the approval of those who are politically motivated. he also says that H4H "is about the blokes, it's about the blokes". Mr Parry the services now have both genders and men and women both get injured. The organisation is also working 'closely with the Army Benevolunt Fund', I have no problem with that, but what about the RN and the RAF personnel who have been injured. Headley is a tri-service rehabilitation center. Get it right at the start and you might make some money for our 'servicemen and women from the British Armed Forces'!
Go to the 'who are we 'page on their website, and note how Mr Parry has a link to his commercial booksite under his pen picture mmmm!
Comments quoted on the site by MP's and the Under Sec of State for Defence mmmmmm! Non-political
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why are you apologising?
There is nothing wrong with you mentioning anything. Please do not think for a minute that everyone has exactly the same viewpoint as you. Discussion is a good thing. Did you want 40 replies all saying 'yeah great'. They even have an MP as a trustee, therefore can they be non-political?? just a thought.
why are you apologising?
There is nothing wrong with you mentioning anything. Please do not think for a minute that everyone has exactly the same viewpoint as you. Discussion is a good thing. Did you want 40 replies all saying 'yeah great'. They even have an MP as a trustee, therefore can they be non-political?? just a thought.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to come across like that. Its a great cause and the troops deserve as much help as they can get.. god knows the chain of command isn't interested (just see the 15% tax on charity story), and god knows the g'ment doesn't give a damn.
My point was that these causes could be more coordinated, it dilutes the effort, it doesn't maximise effectiveness and the message gets lost (God knows the BBC only got involved with this because this chap had meeja contacts and JC put his name to it). The MoD loves the idea of the likes of Jeremy getting involved.. it enhances the perception that its all us together against them (the nasty g'ment), when I know that 'we're' not doing enough by half.
I'm glad you posted it.. thanks, and I agree with it. I just think more could be done to improve things with little or no more effort and I wouldn't let the MoD off with a thing, especially kicking off a charity by justifying them not having to pay for the troops rehab facilities. It isn't the most promising of starts. The troops I saw on the News tonight are not only the bravest of public servants, but they are also MoD employees. WTF isn't the MoD cutting back on plasma screens for the shiny arse civvies at MoD Main Building, and why isn't the Public Affairs Committee or the NAO asking CAS to justify his jollies in Typhoon, when there are sick troops who aren't being cared for?
al.
Sorry, I didn't mean to come across like that. Its a great cause and the troops deserve as much help as they can get.. god knows the chain of command isn't interested (just see the 15% tax on charity story), and god knows the g'ment doesn't give a damn.
My point was that these causes could be more coordinated, it dilutes the effort, it doesn't maximise effectiveness and the message gets lost (God knows the BBC only got involved with this because this chap had meeja contacts and JC put his name to it). The MoD loves the idea of the likes of Jeremy getting involved.. it enhances the perception that its all us together against them (the nasty g'ment), when I know that 'we're' not doing enough by half.
I'm glad you posted it.. thanks, and I agree with it. I just think more could be done to improve things with little or no more effort and I wouldn't let the MoD off with a thing, especially kicking off a charity by justifying them not having to pay for the troops rehab facilities. It isn't the most promising of starts. The troops I saw on the News tonight are not only the bravest of public servants, but they are also MoD employees. WTF isn't the MoD cutting back on plasma screens for the shiny arse civvies at MoD Main Building, and why isn't the Public Affairs Committee or the NAO asking CAS to justify his jollies in Typhoon, when there are sick troops who aren't being cared for?
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You are right chum!
Just another few thoughts before everyone leaps in.
I do not doubt Mr Parry's intentions, but what he is saying and what the web site is saying gives two different messages.
I, would suggest just a little caution first. We have some excellent charities out there who do a great deal of work for the services. What for example will the administration costs be of Help 4 Heroes. There are a dozen charities set up in London everyweek by ' bored wives of' whose charities run at 60% administration costs (for every pound you give them for charity, they pay themselves 60p i.e they set them up for themselves)).
Maybe this is different but just let them bed down and see before you launch in. Are any of the three patrons regular members of this site?? I don't know. Does anyone know them?? Maybe they are good eggs, but i just don't know. But I do know it is inappropriate for a patron to have a link under his name to his own commercial site (which has no links to the Help 4 Heroes' site). Just a thought.
I am not pooh poohing it. If they are straight up, good luck to them. It did incidentally give the country a massive amount of feel good factor today and was all over the news. Launched on the same day the government have slipped through a bill which gives almost automatic access to over 795 organisations to your personal phone records, without explanation., and it is now illegal for the phone companies to withold the information from them. We have been caught out by them (the Gov) ,and not a single snip on the news!!!
You are right chum!
Just another few thoughts before everyone leaps in.
I do not doubt Mr Parry's intentions, but what he is saying and what the web site is saying gives two different messages.
I, would suggest just a little caution first. We have some excellent charities out there who do a great deal of work for the services. What for example will the administration costs be of Help 4 Heroes. There are a dozen charities set up in London everyweek by ' bored wives of' whose charities run at 60% administration costs (for every pound you give them for charity, they pay themselves 60p i.e they set them up for themselves)).
Maybe this is different but just let them bed down and see before you launch in. Are any of the three patrons regular members of this site?? I don't know. Does anyone know them?? Maybe they are good eggs, but i just don't know. But I do know it is inappropriate for a patron to have a link under his name to his own commercial site (which has no links to the Help 4 Heroes' site). Just a thought.
I am not pooh poohing it. If they are straight up, good luck to them. It did incidentally give the country a massive amount of feel good factor today and was all over the news. Launched on the same day the government have slipped through a bill which gives almost automatic access to over 795 organisations to your personal phone records, without explanation., and it is now illegal for the phone companies to withold the information from them. We have been caught out by them (the Gov) ,and not a single snip on the news!!!
AL R
I am not pooh poohing it. If they are straight up, good luck to them. It did incidentally give the country a massive amount of feel good factor today and was all over the news. Launched on the same day the government have slipped through a bill which gives almost automatic access to over 795 organisations to your personal phone records, without explanation., and it is now illegal for the phone companies to withold the information from them. We have been caught out by them (the Gov) ,and not a single snip on the news!!!
I am not pooh poohing it. If they are straight up, good luck to them. It did incidentally give the country a massive amount of feel good factor today and was all over the news. Launched on the same day the government have slipped through a bill which gives almost automatic access to over 795 organisations to your personal phone records, without explanation., and it is now illegal for the phone companies to withold the information from them. We have been caught out by them (the Gov) ,and not a single snip on the news!!!
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The organisation is also working 'closely with the Army Benevolunt Fund', I have no problem with that, but what about the RN and the RAF personnel who have been injured. Headley is a tri-service rehabilitation center. Get it right at the start and you might make some money for our 'servicemen and women from the British Armed Forces'
Frankly - any charity that can raise funds to help with the recovery and our rehabilitation of wounded personnel can't be too bad an organisation. After all, if you don't approve of it, you don't have to support it.
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