Flying pay
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Anyone know why Nockers get less flying pay than O's?, it can't be the difference in jobs cos Nav's Aeo's and pilots all get the same don't they? and they are vastly different jobs.
How about we all get the same? cos we are all in the same plane at the same time.
How about we all get the same? cos we are all in the same plane at the same time.
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Samaurai Matt - Nice to see your still a knob!
Blogger - Words fail me. I find it sad that you can raise this debate whilst many aircrew are under fire on a daily basis, and you are in bluntyville running your business, poisoning young minds, all in the blanket of safety we provide. You are indicative of the sad, bitter and twisted mess commandos I have met over the years, and if we ever meet, I will put you on your arse.
As for your original question, it has been answered by far more eloquent people than me....so sod off.
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Blogger - Words fail me. I find it sad that you can raise this debate whilst many aircrew are under fire on a daily basis, and you are in bluntyville running your business, poisoning young minds, all in the blanket of safety we provide. You are indicative of the sad, bitter and twisted mess commandos I have met over the years, and if we ever meet, I will put you on your arse.
As for your original question, it has been answered by far more eloquent people than me....so sod off.
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C130 geezer I fear that you have misunderstood me! I am not in favour of all aircrew getting same basic rate, Pilots should get more than Aeo's and more than nockers but was refering to flying pay.
The Stick jockeys at the front could be on x ammount for being A officers and B Pilots followed by a standard flying pay rate, Your Wsop down the back could be on his x ammount for being a Sgt And Wsop along with the SAME Flying rate as the pilot.
This Way you could still lord it up about your superior monetary worth but be on an equal footing for additional pay.
Does anyone know if Submariners pay rates vary between Commisioned and none Commisioned? Or Parachute pay or Special forces pay?
The Stick jockeys at the front could be on x ammount for being A officers and B Pilots followed by a standard flying pay rate, Your Wsop down the back could be on his x ammount for being a Sgt And Wsop along with the SAME Flying rate as the pilot.
This Way you could still lord it up about your superior monetary worth but be on an equal footing for additional pay.
Does anyone know if Submariners pay rates vary between Commisioned and none Commisioned? Or Parachute pay or Special forces pay?
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Toddbabe,
A more pertinent question would be to ask if AAC flying pay varies between Officer Pilot and NCO pilot?
The issue is that flying pay is there to retain, and being GD(P) as opposed GD(N) (or whatever they are these days) is a more transferable skill to an outside market where rates of pay are significantly higher. Thus retention on the pilot side (on a purely monetary basis, excluding the millions of other push/pull factors) is a harder job.
A more pertinent question would be to ask if AAC flying pay varies between Officer Pilot and NCO pilot?
The issue is that flying pay is there to retain, and being GD(P) as opposed GD(N) (or whatever they are these days) is a more transferable skill to an outside market where rates of pay are significantly higher. Thus retention on the pilot side (on a purely monetary basis, excluding the millions of other push/pull factors) is a harder job.
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Toddbarbie,
Aah now I understand !
Yup, love that idea especially as a) ruperts would get lots of wonga and b) it counts towards the pension.....
I still maintain that blogger is an @rse, but you are well and truely correct and I salute your inspried idea.
C130JB
AAC NCOs & NCA please do not get narked - its just a (highly biased) opinion.
Aah now I understand !
Yup, love that idea especially as a) ruperts would get lots of wonga and b) it counts towards the pension.....
I still maintain that blogger is an @rse, but you are well and truely correct and I salute your inspried idea.
C130JB
AAC NCOs & NCA please do not get narked - its just a (highly biased) opinion.
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Blogger, C130 (old useless type) bloke, etc.......
Please put this thread at the top of the agenda. If no flying pay then no pilots. If no pilots, the bitter and twisted people would have no job and the forces would be in real trouble (especially the RAF) - oh they are! Well done you petty types have won.
Glad I don't have to put up with this stuff at work too!! Pity the real people here feed these gimps.
Please put this thread at the top of the agenda. If no flying pay then no pilots. If no pilots, the bitter and twisted people would have no job and the forces would be in real trouble (especially the RAF) - oh they are! Well done you petty types have won.
Glad I don't have to put up with this stuff at work too!! Pity the real people here feed these gimps.
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No, you perpetuate this rant - silence is that only option unless you want to take heat. Petty backstabbing and perpetual nibbling is the reason behind the state we ALL are in at the moment. You just fuel this ever increasing despondency along with some (possibly worse than you) fools! Why - focus on the positives and leave the denigrating of our forces to the Gov, they are doing very well without you and I. If you wish to have a go - please do - I have no axe to grind so take great pleasure in slapping down petty minded and blinkered posters. I really hope you do not fall into this cat. 
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No problems with either rants or heat - as long as it is factually correct ( C-130J, old & useless, please...)
I am midway through a BBQ, so trying to understand the deeper meaning of your last is way past my abilities now. But one thing I did get clear was your depth of feeling for my suggesting ( oh no !) that somebody should get a better deal !
As I said fella, BIASED OPINION !
Now calm down
I am midway through a BBQ, so trying to understand the deeper meaning of your last is way past my abilities now. But one thing I did get clear was your depth of feeling for my suggesting ( oh no !) that somebody should get a better deal !
As I said fella, BIASED OPINION !
Now calm down
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Blogger,
Thought I better clarify my earlier statement for the benefit of my aircrew brothers who may have thought that I was agreeing with you. Considering my total flying hours for last year against my salary, flying pay should be paid at a rate of £16,283 per hour flown.
So I'm PAS, currently in a flying-related desk job and only flew 3 hours last year ... ker ching. Its difficult to spend 37 years constantly flying without a break ... arms get awfully tired you see !
P.S, SAMURAIMATT this could be last post on this thread
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YES, it should be paid for hours flown ...
So I'm PAS, currently in a flying-related desk job and only flew 3 hours last year ... ker ching
. Its difficult to spend 37 years constantly flying without a break ... arms get awfully tired you see !P.S, SAMURAIMATT this could be last post on this thread
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