Flying pay

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From: Blighty
The official line used to be that FP was paid to keep military aircrew pay in line with their civilian counterparts. If that's the case, why isn't it much more?
PS. I didn't work very hard at school at all. I became a pilot through natural ability!
PS. I didn't work very hard at school at all. I became a pilot through natural ability!

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From: Southampton
Look at the latest Chinook news and then tell me we shouldn't get flying pay.
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From: Out East
BootFlap,
No offence taken at all. I was merely trying to lighten up the snorting. It is a fact of life, FP will always be paid, just as there'll always be the grumblers. The RAF is there to fly aircraft and we are (or in my case were) behind you guys and gels all the way.
By the way, thanks for biting!



Old Ned
No offence taken at all. I was merely trying to lighten up the snorting. It is a fact of life, FP will always be paid, just as there'll always be the grumblers. The RAF is there to fly aircraft and we are (or in my case were) behind you guys and gels all the way.
By the way, thanks for biting!




Old Ned
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From: uk
Well some nice comments on here I have come back too: Sorry I have been bidding for a contract and had to burn the midnight oil the last few days ..but good news I won the contract. It will keep me busy and the guy I employ, for many weeks to come.
So back to a few facts.
The VAT threashold is not £61K it's £64K if you were in business you would be aware of this.
£64K is a turnover (not Profit) line that makes a business become VAT registered. And fact I am well well above this in my my present floating 12 month period.
I find it sad that folks want to put someone down who has completed 25 years service (Gulf 2X etc). The fact that yes I am getting out I require to hit the road running not stall at the gate of the station on the way out like so many (god if I was sad I could always join an IPT as a civvy.)
After all is not the resettlement period 2 years .....Come on guys after 25 years return of service a few slack days at the end is not too much to ask for is it. Your turn will come.
As for running a business in the Queens time ..what the butt does that mean... I do my time at work and spend the spare time I do get preparing for getting out (thats dinner hour included (Moan I dont get a lunch break (its your right))) and every minute at home I get spare I work hard.
As a last comment on this subject one day you too will be either:
Kicked out of the RAF;
Your conscience will bring you to realise that Balirs wars are wrong;
You will be injured;
Or you choose to leave.
Just make sure that exit is is well planned because you are nobody the day you leave you make your own destiny and income in this world.
As for flying pay great you can keep it but how about changing it to represent the theatre of op's (danger pay if you like). Or the more you fly the more pay you get? Well that won't go down well I guess flying a desk is so much harder. However all I know is that right now I cant get out of the RAF soon enough its not the company I joined 25 years ago.
Good luck to you all on the inside and outside of the fence (when you jump it.)
So back to a few facts.
The VAT threashold is not £61K it's £64K if you were in business you would be aware of this.
£64K is a turnover (not Profit) line that makes a business become VAT registered. And fact I am well well above this in my my present floating 12 month period.
I find it sad that folks want to put someone down who has completed 25 years service (Gulf 2X etc). The fact that yes I am getting out I require to hit the road running not stall at the gate of the station on the way out like so many (god if I was sad I could always join an IPT as a civvy.)
After all is not the resettlement period 2 years .....Come on guys after 25 years return of service a few slack days at the end is not too much to ask for is it. Your turn will come.
As for running a business in the Queens time ..what the butt does that mean... I do my time at work and spend the spare time I do get preparing for getting out (thats dinner hour included (Moan I dont get a lunch break (its your right))) and every minute at home I get spare I work hard.
As a last comment on this subject one day you too will be either:
Kicked out of the RAF;
Your conscience will bring you to realise that Balirs wars are wrong;
You will be injured;
Or you choose to leave.
Just make sure that exit is is well planned because you are nobody the day you leave you make your own destiny and income in this world.
As for flying pay great you can keep it but how about changing it to represent the theatre of op's (danger pay if you like). Or the more you fly the more pay you get? Well that won't go down well I guess flying a desk is so much harder. However all I know is that right now I cant get out of the RAF soon enough its not the company I joined 25 years ago.
Good luck to you all on the inside and outside of the fence (when you jump it.)
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From: uk
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Blogger you minion - Would you like a loan?
I cant seem to get to my ferrari through all these used £20s.
I cant seem to get to my ferrari through all these used £20s.
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From: Over the moors
Blogger
Blogger...

I do believe, and I don't think I will be alone here, that you are talking complete bo!!ocks. Many of the points you raise in your post have already been addressed in a mature and constructive manner.
Please take note.
OS

I do believe, and I don't think I will be alone here, that you are talking complete bo!!ocks. Many of the points you raise in your post have already been addressed in a mature and constructive manner.
Please take note.
OS
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From: UK
Where do I start?! Well, thanks Blogger for pointing out the massive difference in VAT thresholds. 3 whole thousand pounds....what's that, 20% of the top rate of flying pay?
Whoops, I mentioned flying pay, when this thread is clearly about your excellent business acumen and multiple-employee business. Well, multiple being two employees. Including yourself. Alan Sugar and Richard Branson won't be sleeping well tonight...
As for flying pay, yes I've reverted back to that subject; I remember a fishhead (that is, surface fleet, not RN aircrew)once telling me that aircrew don't get paid more, they just get paid quicker. Shows that the "ground" crew in the RN know the reason for flying pay, maybe our dear friend/ entrepreneur Blogger could benefit from a chat with them....or maybe not cos he is obviously a complete CU Next Tuesday...
Whoops, I mentioned flying pay, when this thread is clearly about your excellent business acumen and multiple-employee business. Well, multiple being two employees. Including yourself. Alan Sugar and Richard Branson won't be sleeping well tonight...
As for flying pay, yes I've reverted back to that subject; I remember a fishhead (that is, surface fleet, not RN aircrew)once telling me that aircrew don't get paid more, they just get paid quicker. Shows that the "ground" crew in the RN know the reason for flying pay, maybe our dear friend/ entrepreneur Blogger could benefit from a chat with them....or maybe not cos he is obviously a complete CU Next Tuesday...
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From: Oxon
As blagger is soon to leave the service and states he is quite happy to thumb his nose at the system I asked him in a previous post tell us his name so that we could verify his rather waltish claims and then stand in awe of his obvious business prowess...........
It came as no big surprise to me that no name came forth....... does anyone else smell bullsh1t
It came as no big surprise to me that no name came forth....... does anyone else smell bullsh1t
Avoid imitations



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From: Wandering the FIR and cyberspace often at highly unsociable times
Quote: As a last comment on this subject one day you too will be either:
Kicked out of the RAF;
Your conscience will bring you to realise that Balirs wars are wrong;
You will be injured;
Or you choose to leave.
You have missed option five.
Welcome to the real world outside, where flying pay isn't an issue.
BTW, what was your initial point? Looks like you are just aiming to create a bit more disgruntlement for those staying in.
Kicked out of the RAF;
Your conscience will bring you to realise that Balirs wars are wrong;
You will be injured;
Or you choose to leave.
You have missed option five.
Welcome to the real world outside, where flying pay isn't an issue.
BTW, what was your initial point? Looks like you are just aiming to create a bit more disgruntlement for those staying in.
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From: landan
Mods?????
Gentlemen, enough of the pi##ing competition.
How about putting similar effort in supporting something more useful such as the issue of Gurkha Tulbahadur Pun VC.
This flying pay thread shouldn't have got past the first few posts. Mods??
How about putting similar effort in supporting something more useful such as the issue of Gurkha Tulbahadur Pun VC.
This flying pay thread shouldn't have got past the first few posts. Mods??

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From: England
Blogger,
I'm aircrew and here's my reply to your original post:
YES, it should be paid for hours flown ... happy ? Now pi$$ off you moron 
ALL,
Please let this be the last entry on this post, cheers.
I'm aircrew and here's my reply to your original post:
Flying pay why is it a daily rate? Should it not be paid for hours flown?
ALL,
Please let this be the last entry on this post, cheers.
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From: ecosse
Blogger
Should you really be on this thread without supervision and not taking your medication?
By the way, what is your mental age? If it's about 12, all is forgiven - now off to bed, there's a good boy - see you in the moaning!
Should you really be on this thread without supervision and not taking your medication?
By the way, what is your mental age? If it's about 12, all is forgiven - now off to bed, there's a good boy - see you in the moaning!



