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Apparently they contained books on Islam and Iran, pistachio nuts and CDs/DVDs, as well as fake Hugo Boss shirts.
And Faye Turney got an Islamic doll. All were checked for explosives... damned sneaky, those Iranians...
Apparently they contained books on Islam and Iran, pistachio nuts and CDs/DVDs, as well as fake Hugo Boss shirts.
And Faye Turney got an Islamic doll. All were checked for explosives... damned sneaky, those Iranians...
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According to the Daily Mail Faye Turney actually received 2 Islamic dolls....
Just when you thought that it couldn't get any worse!
Just when you thought that it couldn't get any worse!
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BBC Radio 2
Apparently Des "Swiss Tony" Brown is explaining all on Jeremy Vine's Radio broadcast today.
I look forward to lots of doublespeak ,spin, half truths and lies
I look forward to lots of doublespeak ,spin, half truths and lies
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I bet one of the books was not Salman Rusdie's.
Wonder whether faye stuffed the dolls in her jumper.
Anyone read a woman's take on all this? Look at Jan Moir in today's Telegraph. One word sums it up. Diddums.
Wonder whether faye stuffed the dolls in her jumper.
Anyone read a woman's take on all this? Look at Jan Moir in today's Telegraph. One word sums it up. Diddums.
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In today's Sun, below another cringeworthy article, there was the following competition:
Win an Ahmadine-jacket
One of the captives has given his jacket to the Sun so that it can make a profit out of the incident.
I am f
cking speechless. And feeling a bit sick.
Win an Ahmadine-jacket
One of the captives has given his jacket to the Sun so that it can make a profit out of the incident.
I am f
cking speechless. And feeling a bit sick.
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Faye's Fitness Video
Here is one from RumRation - http://www.rumration.co.uk/cpgn2/ind...c&t=5666#96192
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A tad OTT, Lestby. Especially on the ones who haven't bared all to the Scum / Mirror. 
I see Ditchwater Des has accepted full responsibility for the media fiasco, so that's OK then. I had wondered if 2SL was being set up as the fall guy by the Ops side who are actually at fault. As predicted, the meeja is full of tripe and no-one is asking the important questions. I wonder when MoD will just buy a record of 'Lessons will be learned' to save them saying it all the time.
I see Ditchwater Des has accepted full responsibility for the media fiasco, so that's OK then. I had wondered if 2SL was being set up as the fall guy by the Ops side who are actually at fault. As predicted, the meeja is full of tripe and no-one is asking the important questions. I wonder when MoD will just buy a record of 'Lessons will be learned' to save them saying it all the time.
You couldn't make it up ....
This is just gobsmacking. Apparently there are now calls for the 'Tehran 15' to be given medals for bravery.
http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/displa...pNodeId=137002
So surrendering without putting up a fight and publically admitting that you cried yourself to sleep is considered brave in Exeter is it? Forgive me for seeming to be a little critical here, but storming a Taleban machinegun nest singlehandedly would be brave.
I am just in the middle of reading Vulcan 607 and there is a bit where the Lt and his small party were charged with holding off the Argies from landing on South Georgia and he is told to put up a token show of force - "half an hour should do it then surrender". After half an hour or so he and his team surrender. Having brought down a Puma, sunk an landing craft, put a hole in the side of an Argentinian Type 42 destroyer with what sounds like a recoilless rifle and peppered the side of it with several thousand rounds of small arms. Now that was something that deserved a medal that the Navy can be proud of! There are times when I think this once great country has gone totally barking, and this is one of them.
http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/displa...pNodeId=137002
So surrendering without putting up a fight and publically admitting that you cried yourself to sleep is considered brave in Exeter is it? Forgive me for seeming to be a little critical here, but storming a Taleban machinegun nest singlehandedly would be brave.
I am just in the middle of reading Vulcan 607 and there is a bit where the Lt and his small party were charged with holding off the Argies from landing on South Georgia and he is told to put up a token show of force - "half an hour should do it then surrender". After half an hour or so he and his team surrender. Having brought down a Puma, sunk an landing craft, put a hole in the side of an Argentinian Type 42 destroyer with what sounds like a recoilless rifle and peppered the side of it with several thousand rounds of small arms. Now that was something that deserved a medal that the Navy can be proud of! There are times when I think this once great country has gone totally barking, and this is one of them.
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Frightened 15 - pathetic
Melchett I'm with you. I've just read this article - pathetic.
For the benefit of all the journos out there the definition of 'hero' is:
somebody who commits an act of remarkable bravery or who has shown great courage, strength of character, or another admirable quality
The frightened 15 do not fit this definition - stop calling them that - it demeans those that really are.
If you're looking for 'heroic' (and stoic) servicemen go to Iraq or Afghanistan where they really do wake up every day wondering if they'll see the sunset.
For the benefit of all the journos out there the definition of 'hero' is:
somebody who commits an act of remarkable bravery or who has shown great courage, strength of character, or another admirable quality
The frightened 15 do not fit this definition - stop calling them that - it demeans those that really are.
If you're looking for 'heroic' (and stoic) servicemen go to Iraq or Afghanistan where they really do wake up every day wondering if they'll see the sunset.
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Melchett, In Tor
Could not agree more. I have just written to the editor of the newspaper (i have quoted some of your text In Tor
).
I was also wondering why Mum has so many opinions on how much Son has suffered, yet admits upto the 12th April, she still has not spoken to him since his arrival back home. Sounds like the poor sod being claimed by her to be a hero, didnt even deserve a heros home coming. All very sad.
Could not agree more. I have just written to the editor of the newspaper (i have quoted some of your text In Tor
).I was also wondering why Mum has so many opinions on how much Son has suffered, yet admits upto the 12th April, she still has not spoken to him since his arrival back home. Sounds like the poor sod being claimed by her to be a hero, didnt even deserve a heros home coming. All very sad.
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Maybe servicemen who are equally annoyed should start to use the frightened fifteen tag. Rather effective name.
Mind you, maybe some of the 15 might be tarred with the black brush unduly ? Reading coverage in Finland it seems to revolve around "Mr Bean" and the Fat Jenny, so could some be getting a bad rep by association?
Mind you, maybe some of the 15 might be tarred with the black brush unduly ? Reading coverage in Finland it seems to revolve around "Mr Bean" and the Fat Jenny, so could some be getting a bad rep by association?
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Tony Blair said on camera during a visit to Wales yesterday
Was it the Senior staff in the Navy that made this decision?? I cannot believe that it was. Surely they (the commanders) must have known the effect this would have had. Is this Bliar and Browne nose trying to pass the buck yet again?
"Look, I did not actually know about the decision until after it was taken, but really that is not the point," he said. "The Navy was trying to deal with a wholly exceptional situation where the families were being pursued by the media to sell their stories.
"The Navy took the view that it was better to manage the situation than let it happen. Now, with hindsight, was that a good idea? No. But precisely because people would then misrepresent that as somehow the Navy encouraging people to sell their stories which they were not at all.
"The Navy took the view that it was better to manage the situation than let it happen. Now, with hindsight, was that a good idea? No. But precisely because people would then misrepresent that as somehow the Navy encouraging people to sell their stories which they were not at all.
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Well I can see the claims for compensation being dreamed up now as we speak. This idiot Mr Bean bloke will be up for at least a 6 figure sum, together with a film contract to replace Rowan Atkinson. Ms Turney will be there at the forefront, suffering from stress and other stress-related illness, and will need a fair amount of compensation for her and her sprog. Oh God, what a bl00dy mess this all is.
How on earth has this country fallen to such a depth?
On a day when we receive back into Lyneham the bodies of four REAL British heros, might I ask that we all spare just a few minutes in thought for them and their family and friends, as well as those they left behind in Iraq.
I only hope that all this appalling mess isn't having too much impact on those Boys and Girls who are being heros every day. God Bless them all.
TSM
How on earth has this country fallen to such a depth?
On a day when we receive back into Lyneham the bodies of four REAL British heros, might I ask that we all spare just a few minutes in thought for them and their family and friends, as well as those they left behind in Iraq.
I only hope that all this appalling mess isn't having too much impact on those Boys and Girls who are being heros every day. God Bless them all.
TSM
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TSM,
Ah, Rowan Atkinson, I wondered who this Bean chap was.
May I also suggest James Leite as a figure of fun, disagreeing with everyone, as a Baldrick replacement?
together with a film contract to replace Rowan Atkinson. Ms Turney will be there at the forefront, suffering from stress and other stress-related illness, and will need a fair amount of compensation for her and her sprog
May I also suggest James Leite as a figure of fun, disagreeing with everyone, as a Baldrick replacement?
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Faye and her colleages should receive medals for showing exceptional common sense. They correctly assesed their situation and did not fire their weapons, thus saving their own and many Iranians lives. In so doing they exposed the obscene bu...sht of "doing your duty" "dying for your country" and all the other forms of military conditioning which are now failing to imprint on more sceptical young minds.
The roars of appoplexy coming from the dinosaurs on this thread are predictable. Real heros in our modern age are those who keep their consiences intact and refuse to kill in aggressive & illegal wars.
Thanks Two's in for summing it up so well.
The roars of appoplexy coming from the dinosaurs on this thread are predictable. Real heros in our modern age are those who keep their consiences intact and refuse to kill in aggressive & illegal wars.
Thanks Two's in for summing it up so well.