RAF - the 'junior' service?
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But I guess that's another story 
A-4Q Skyhawk of CANA 3 Esc shot down near Swan Island in Falkland Sound by Flt Lt Leeming RAF
Two A-4B Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 5 shot down over Choiseul Sound by Flt Lt Morgan RAF
Just three of the FAA aircraft downed by the RAF in 1982. I think these qualify as post WWII kills.
Senior Service, aren't they FAGS.
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Mustflywillfly
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And can I just remind all you crabs that the only service to shoot another aircraft down since WWII is yes, that's right, the Navy.
You need to do a little more research. The last RAF pilot to win a contested air-to-air engagement, that has been officially acknowledged, whilst flying an RAF plane was Fg Off Tim McElhaw of 208 Sqn flying a Spitfire FR18 when he shot down a Royal Egyptian Air Force Spitfire LF9 on 22 May 1948 near Ramat David airfield in Palestine.
www.spyflight.co.uk/iafvraf.htm
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And can I just remind all you crabs that the only service to shoot another aircraft down since WWII is yes, that's right, the Navy.
You need to do a little more research. The last RAF pilot to win a contested air-to-air engagement, that has been officially acknowledged, whilst flying an RAF plane was Fg Off Tim McElhaw of 208 Sqn flying a Spitfire FR18 when he shot down a Royal Egyptian Air Force Spitfire LF9 on 22 May 1948 near Ramat David airfield in Palestine.
www.spyflight.co.uk/iafvraf.htm
Heimdall
And can I just remind all you crabs that the only service to shoot another aircraft down since WWII is yes, that's right, the Navy. You Crabs have more resources then us fish heads and always have done. The Sea Harrier was the only true fighter aircraft for many many years and you ask any pongo or booty who has served in NI and they will tell you that if you ask the Jungly boys you can guarantee a lift home, you ask the crabs and it's a little foggy then forget it!!!
Ooooh it's all good inter-service banter!! I actually think we all do a bloody stirling job with the kit we are provided! Lets stop bickering at each other, grow up a bit and get on with the jobs we are all lucky enough to still have.
MFWF
Ooooh it's all good inter-service banter!! I actually think we all do a bloody stirling job with the kit we are provided! Lets stop bickering at each other, grow up a bit and get on with the jobs we are all lucky enough to still have.
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Didn't a Buccaneer crew destroy an Iraqi Mig on its take-off run during GW1 and it was considered an air-to-air kill (though accomplished with an LGB)?
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I used to be young and fit. Drove a sports car. Sh**ged every nice young thing that came my way, drank ten pints at night and went to work as fresh as a daisy in the morning. I was junior and immature.
Then came marriage, a family and a mortgage. I drove a Humber. I wanted to sh*g anything that came my way but the wife would object. When I was allowed out at night, I'd drink eight pints and stagger off to work in the morning with a hangover. I was established and respectable.
Then came middle age. The children are married, the mortgage is paid off. I might admire a fine pair of ***s from afar but I can't be bothered to do anything about it. I have an occasional glass of wine and a fine meal - then suffer indigestion all next day. I'm senior and nearly past it.
Now, which would you rather be? Junior or Senior? Eh?
Then came marriage, a family and a mortgage. I drove a Humber. I wanted to sh*g anything that came my way but the wife would object. When I was allowed out at night, I'd drink eight pints and stagger off to work in the morning with a hangover. I was established and respectable.
Then came middle age. The children are married, the mortgage is paid off. I might admire a fine pair of ***s from afar but I can't be bothered to do anything about it. I have an occasional glass of wine and a fine meal - then suffer indigestion all next day. I'm senior and nearly past it.
Now, which would you rather be? Junior or Senior? Eh?
r Is this Southside back again to amuse us?
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Also an F15E got an air-to-air with an LGB. A helicopter in the hover.
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Actually Twopack, I was on a Naval Squadron and chopped by a Navy Standards pilot. Bitter? Possibly, but not with the RAF. Infact a very nice RAF chap suggested that I could transfer to them. Indeed quite recently a very decent RAF Officer has suggested that I could still transfer to them.
I like the RAF, I did an RAF Flying Scholarship and they helped me fly at 17 before I could drive.
It's all just good banter, but what I have been amazed by is the real venom that some of you have replied with. Especially that Roland chap, obviously a lovely bloke who drives a very long car. Do the RAF do banter or just take themselves far too seriously and get all upset and lash out? I am a little dissapointed the way this thread has gone actually.
The RAF is the Junior service and quite frankly who cares!!! And yes Blacksheep that was a superb comeback!!
Now shall we all just calm down?
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MFWF,
Think it's about time for you to change your handle dude
Might I suggest WLTFBCAIACHAFTCSNIAJABF......
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.....anyone else some thoughts on a new handle for our tame semen
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Think it's about time for you to change your handle dude
Might I suggest WLTFBCAIACHAFTCSNIAJABF......
WouldliketoflybutcantasiamcackhandedandfailedthecuorsesonowI amjustanotherbluntfecker
.....anyone else some thoughts on a new handle for our tame semenall spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
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The trouble, mustflywillfly, is the use of the word junior in a perjorative sense (as you and others in this thread have done!). Inevtiably people who care - and love to banter as well - will bite.
I loathed being referred to as a junior officer when I was an old-time flight lieutenant. It's the same here, I suspect.
I couldn't care less, though, whether the RAF is junior or the Navy the senior (or for that matter, whether the Army is the in-the-middle service!), This Senior Service thing (as beloved by those who produce Navy News - it appears in almost every bloomin story!) is something the admirals perpetuate to give themselves a warm feeling of importance.
I loathed being referred to as a junior officer when I was an old-time flight lieutenant. It's the same here, I suspect.
I couldn't care less, though, whether the RAF is junior or the Navy the senior (or for that matter, whether the Army is the in-the-middle service!), This Senior Service thing (as beloved by those who produce Navy News - it appears in almost every bloomin story!) is something the admirals perpetuate to give themselves a warm feeling of importance.
ABIW
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The Admirals warm feeling is not importance........... it's incontinence
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Since we seem to now be saying that the 'Senior Service' is whichever is best, rather than the oldest, how do we measure it?
If you take value for money, the RAF needs 124 personnel for each of its frontline aircraft, while the FAA does the same with 31 people. So, for the taxpayer, the RAF offers much less bang per buck.
In the two world wars and one world cup line of thinking, the RAF saved this country from invasion and servitude 60 years ago, with RN people involved in the BoB and The RN acting as back-up in case Fighter Command dropped the ball. With the Spanish armada and Trafalgar, the RN is at least 2-1 up in the 'Saving the nation from tyranny' stakes.
We're all rightfully proud of the Service we chose to join, but some foolishly chose to join the one with a uniform of badly cut denim.
If you take value for money, the RAF needs 124 personnel for each of its frontline aircraft, while the FAA does the same with 31 people. So, for the taxpayer, the RAF offers much less bang per buck.
In the two world wars and one world cup line of thinking, the RAF saved this country from invasion and servitude 60 years ago, with RN people involved in the BoB and The RN acting as back-up in case Fighter Command dropped the ball. With the Spanish armada and Trafalgar, the RN is at least 2-1 up in the 'Saving the nation from tyranny' stakes.
We're all rightfully proud of the Service we chose to join, but some foolishly chose to join the one with a uniform of badly cut denim.