So how bad is the charter bridge to the sandpit
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QFIHawkman must be trapped in a timewarp in Waleshire; Timmy hasn't been running thru' Dubai since April.
R-21 it is a 12 hr flog from KBL, 2 legs of 5hrs with a 2hr stopover at Akrotiri, thats unless the crew cut down the T/R. The other 9 hrs is down to the movers I'm afraid. Timmy is supposed to operate to a 3 hr T/R which is regularly extended, as the turbo types get priority from the movers.
The problem with KBL is MZFW at 6000, ft with temps of 30-35 C at present, extending the runway would just put Timmy into a rocky peice of sky.
R-21 it is a 12 hr flog from KBL, 2 legs of 5hrs with a 2hr stopover at Akrotiri, thats unless the crew cut down the T/R. The other 9 hrs is down to the movers I'm afraid. Timmy is supposed to operate to a 3 hr T/R which is regularly extended, as the turbo types get priority from the movers.
The problem with KBL is MZFW at 6000, ft with temps of 30-35 C at present, extending the runway would just put Timmy into a rocky peice of sky.
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Al Udeid - Ptb Improvements
Ladies & Gents,
I have read with interest the comments made over the past few weeks about the PTB at Al Udeid. It is unfortunate that the facility is poor, however, I have it on very good authority that a number of improvements have been/will be made to the PTB. Firstly, the aircon has been sorted; 2 new powerful units have already been installed in one of the tents and the other should be completed in the next week. I understand that this has made a significant improvement already and the passengers have appreciated the better conditions.
The toilets are also being replaced - 2 new 'toilet trailers' have been procured and will be in use from the first week of October.
In addition, they are also looking at providing Paradigm SAT Phones in order for personnel to phone home and inform their families, if there is a delay. I also understand that the tented PTB's are only temporary as a purpose built facility will be provided around May 07.
Whilst there is no excuse for poor facilities, given the amount of pax transiting through, it looks as though Al Udeid has made every effort to improve conditions, which is good.
Yours aye
Scribbly Bloke
I have read with interest the comments made over the past few weeks about the PTB at Al Udeid. It is unfortunate that the facility is poor, however, I have it on very good authority that a number of improvements have been/will be made to the PTB. Firstly, the aircon has been sorted; 2 new powerful units have already been installed in one of the tents and the other should be completed in the next week. I understand that this has made a significant improvement already and the passengers have appreciated the better conditions.
The toilets are also being replaced - 2 new 'toilet trailers' have been procured and will be in use from the first week of October.
In addition, they are also looking at providing Paradigm SAT Phones in order for personnel to phone home and inform their families, if there is a delay. I also understand that the tented PTB's are only temporary as a purpose built facility will be provided around May 07.
Whilst there is no excuse for poor facilities, given the amount of pax transiting through, it looks as though Al Udeid has made every effort to improve conditions, which is good.
Yours aye
Scribbly Bloke
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Having returned myself from the the wonderful aludied for the 6th time,
I know that the movers do their best with what they have and they should shoulder no blame for the set up in Qatar. As a regular visitor to sunny BAS I can see a quick and easy solution to the 'Air Terminal' situation at Al Udied, remove the excess of Land Rover Discovery 3 series from the Major/Wing Co/Comm and above chaps as they only cover 3 miles a day from the 'Lines' to work if you go to the mess 3 times a day. Use the trade-in against standard land rovers to fund a hard building of the terminal at Al Udied. If the Generals/Air Rank and Admirals actually pay more than lip service to the issue of moral in the modern forces of the crown this should be a relatively quick fix and reduce the negative aspect to travel too and from the gulf. My opinion only and feel free to pull it apart.
Yours in the kipper
I know that the movers do their best with what they have and they should shoulder no blame for the set up in Qatar. As a regular visitor to sunny BAS I can see a quick and easy solution to the 'Air Terminal' situation at Al Udied, remove the excess of Land Rover Discovery 3 series from the Major/Wing Co/Comm and above chaps as they only cover 3 miles a day from the 'Lines' to work if you go to the mess 3 times a day. Use the trade-in against standard land rovers to fund a hard building of the terminal at Al Udied. If the Generals/Air Rank and Admirals actually pay more than lip service to the issue of moral in the modern forces of the crown this should be a relatively quick fix and reduce the negative aspect to travel too and from the gulf. My opinion only and feel free to pull it apart.
Yours in the kipper
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Great news re the improvements.
Cant wait for my next trip through.
See it wasnt that hard, toilets are such a cheap and effective moral boost.
Hoorah for the powers that be, sort out DTMA Charters and we are all a lot happier.
Cant wait for my next trip through.
See it wasnt that hard, toilets are such a cheap and effective moral boost.
Hoorah for the powers that be, sort out DTMA Charters and we are all a lot happier.
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Doh, come on guys,
If we put the AFG contract out to Ariana and the IZ contract out to Iraqi Airlines we could cancel the 5th C-17 and save enough money to buy more Typhoons to shoot down the Migs that are about to come over the Iron Curtain.....
If we put the AFG contract out to Ariana and the IZ contract out to Iraqi Airlines we could cancel the 5th C-17 and save enough money to buy more Typhoons to shoot down the Migs that are about to come over the Iron Curtain.....
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Have to say that I flew home last on Omni Air DC10 which was on time, spacious and overall a marked improvement on the Tristar I had been on previously.
The added imbugerance of Bas to Ideed was annoying, but nothing compared to the facilities once there. Considering there is a huge welfare facility on station provided by our Allies its a shame to be crammed into such an appalling facility.
Wouldnt it be simpler to bus pax round to the main site for a few hours?
The added imbugerance of Bas to Ideed was annoying, but nothing compared to the facilities once there. Considering there is a huge welfare facility on station provided by our Allies its a shame to be crammed into such an appalling facility.
Wouldnt it be simpler to bus pax round to the main site for a few hours?
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Just thought I'd put in a plug for the much down trodden, lambastered and neutered RNZAF. Having deployed many time offshore (who hasn't these dyas) its always a moral boost to hop on to an RNZAF 757. There's plenty of room, the in flight video plays cool kiwiana, the foods great and it gets you there fresh. Deployed once to work with the french in Noumea and they were flabbergasted with the luxury. At worst case the teeny weeny blue line airline can give you a surprise with a c-130 but even then the food is always good. It doesn't matter who you work or were you go its almost likely your're half way there when you get on board a kiwi ship or aircraft.
Reading this forum I thinkl the 1* - 4* should have had a look at the facilities and service. It shows poor command/leadership that this is allowed to occur. Service in this instance shouldn't be plush but it shouldn't be as dodgy as it sounds.
The bean counters need to be taken to task also - poor conditions / slow inept service degrades moral, poor moral degrade performance poor performance meens more blue on blue, more civ kia, more road accidents more theft crime and frustration. All of these things cost - probably more than the measly difference between good and less than average service here.
Plenty of Brits popping over here to NZ have no problem enjoying the lifestyle. Problem is half come over here and contribute well and buy into being in the NZDF the other half are whinging poms that look down on us colonials
Reading this forum I thinkl the 1* - 4* should have had a look at the facilities and service. It shows poor command/leadership that this is allowed to occur. Service in this instance shouldn't be plush but it shouldn't be as dodgy as it sounds.
The bean counters need to be taken to task also - poor conditions / slow inept service degrades moral, poor moral degrade performance poor performance meens more blue on blue, more civ kia, more road accidents more theft crime and frustration. All of these things cost - probably more than the measly difference between good and less than average service here.
Plenty of Brits popping over here to NZ have no problem enjoying the lifestyle. Problem is half come over here and contribute well and buy into being in the NZDF the other half are whinging poms that look down on us colonials
