Married quarters for homosexuals?
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Married quarters for homosexuals?
Hi all,
Myself and my fiancee are currently both in the Air Force and both at different bases. I am currently in the SNCOs Mess and she is in other accommodation. Currently I am not in a position to buy until she gets her next posting - does anyone know if an excess married quarter would be available to us? If the answer to the question is no, can anyone tell me why homosexuals are given this right?
I know it's a very obscure post but I'm just looking to gain as much information as possible!
Myself and my fiancee are currently both in the Air Force and both at different bases. I am currently in the SNCOs Mess and she is in other accommodation. Currently I am not in a position to buy until she gets her next posting - does anyone know if an excess married quarter would be available to us? If the answer to the question is no, can anyone tell me why homosexuals are given this right?
I know it's a very obscure post but I'm just looking to gain as much information as possible!
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Just a point....
Joe,
Just to point out that to obtain a married quarter homosexual couples must have a civil partnership ceremony first. This is essentially a marriage ceremony that is the only option for same sex couples. It is viewed in the eyes of the military as the same as marriage as marriage as we know it is not an option for them. It is easy to be dismissive about this, but the civil ceremony is just as binding as a marriage one. This does nothing to dissuade the bigots ranting on about it, but the simple solution is to head for the chapel!
Regards and good luck
Muzza
Just to point out that to obtain a married quarter homosexual couples must have a civil partnership ceremony first. This is essentially a marriage ceremony that is the only option for same sex couples. It is viewed in the eyes of the military as the same as marriage as marriage as we know it is not an option for them. It is easy to be dismissive about this, but the civil ceremony is just as binding as a marriage one. This does nothing to dissuade the bigots ranting on about it, but the simple solution is to head for the chapel!
Regards and good luck
Muzza
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Simple,
Get married or enter into a civil partnership = entitled to quarters.
Single or long-term relationship (incl. engagement) = apply for excess quarters if available.
Same rules for straight and gay people, what's the problem?
Get married or enter into a civil partnership = entitled to quarters.
Single or long-term relationship (incl. engagement) = apply for excess quarters if available.
Same rules for straight and gay people, what's the problem?
I too gained a Married Quarter before I was actually married. 
It was in excess, so DHE were happy to take my rent.
Some idiot complained of course, and I was bollocked by my WGCDR Boss for flaunting the rules. "Get a life" was not uttered from under my breath at the time....
It was in excess, so DHE were happy to take my rent.
Some idiot complained of course, and I was bollocked by my WGCDR Boss for flaunting the rules. "Get a life" was not uttered from under my breath at the time....
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Joe,
Just to point out that to obtain a married quarter homosexual couples must have a civil partnership ceremony first. This is essentially a marriage ceremony that is the only option for same sex couples. It is viewed in the eyes of the military as the same as marriage as marriage as we know it is not an option for them. It is easy to be dismissive about this, but the civil ceremony is just as binding as a marriage one. This does nothing to dissuade the bigots ranting on about it, but the simple solution is to head for the chapel!
Regards and good luck
Muzza
Just to point out that to obtain a married quarter homosexual couples must have a civil partnership ceremony first. This is essentially a marriage ceremony that is the only option for same sex couples. It is viewed in the eyes of the military as the same as marriage as marriage as we know it is not an option for them. It is easy to be dismissive about this, but the civil ceremony is just as binding as a marriage one. This does nothing to dissuade the bigots ranting on about it, but the simple solution is to head for the chapel!
Regards and good luck
Muzza
JB, I have a theory.
If all else fails, tell the Powers that both you and your girlfriend are raving homos (or even Bi's), and they might let you stay.
If all else fails, tell the Powers that both you and your girlfriend are raving homos (or even Bi's), and they might let you stay.
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lesbians
Having met a number of "real" lesbians (friends of my wife), I would just like to ruin the image.
Unfortunately they are not all six foot slim georgous babes, who are just dying to have fun with their friend, while you watch, before inviting you to join them in the bed.......
I agree with An Teallach, if you want to be entitled to a quarter, get marrried. Church, civil service, registry office, drive by in a pink cadillac through the little white chapel in Vegas, whatever you fancy.
Straight, Bi or Homo, at the end of the day, marriage certificate = Quarter.
Unfortunately they are not all six foot slim georgous babes, who are just dying to have fun with their friend, while you watch, before inviting you to join them in the bed.......
I agree with An Teallach, if you want to be entitled to a quarter, get marrried. Church, civil service, registry office, drive by in a pink cadillac through the little white chapel in Vegas, whatever you fancy.
Straight, Bi or Homo, at the end of the day, marriage certificate = Quarter.
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Joe,
Speak to your padre and tell him about the hardship you are facing by not getting a quarter. I fought the system for 18 months, taking my claim as far as the Sec of State for Defence. Having got nowhere - even after having a child and jumping through all the hoops to get marital cat 2 - DHE wouldn't give me a house. A mate told the padre of my plight, padre demanded HTS get me a house, hey presto - 18 months from me for nothing, 18 hours from the padre and we moved-in the following weekend.
I tried not to get upset about the civil partners getting quarters, but I was very annoyed when a convicted fellon was allowed to stay with his girlfriend and subsequently murder her daughter.
Good luck.
Speak to your padre and tell him about the hardship you are facing by not getting a quarter. I fought the system for 18 months, taking my claim as far as the Sec of State for Defence. Having got nowhere - even after having a child and jumping through all the hoops to get marital cat 2 - DHE wouldn't give me a house. A mate told the padre of my plight, padre demanded HTS get me a house, hey presto - 18 months from me for nothing, 18 hours from the padre and we moved-in the following weekend.
I tried not to get upset about the civil partners getting quarters, but I was very annoyed when a convicted fellon was allowed to stay with his girlfriend and subsequently murder her daughter.
Good luck.
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D-Band,
Thanks for the reply, sorry to hear your troubles with it too! I'm going to speak to them and will keep the padre idea in mind. No doubt I will be forced into buying something even though I don't know if the missus will be joining me!
Cheers
Thanks for the reply, sorry to hear your troubles with it too! I'm going to speak to them and will keep the padre idea in mind. No doubt I will be forced into buying something even though I don't know if the missus will be joining me!
Cheers
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Originally Posted by Suckmabobby
So Muzza's a raving bender then?
I love that line from Joe about not having a problem with gays/lesbians. I know it was probably unintentional but the way he says it, he makes it sound like being gay is some sort of crime that he's expected to condone or overlook. I hope he also feels that straight people should "keep themselves to themselves" too?!
Sometimes I wonder if it really is 2006
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Joe
I'm engaged (for another 3 weeks!) and also tried to get a quarter, but to no avail (I bought a house in the end).
I know of a couple who did get a quarter early, but of course they are not allowed to co-habit until after the wedding!
That's right. The year is 2006. Sweet weeping Jesus.
BV
I know of a couple who did get a quarter early, but of course they are not allowed to co-habit until after the wedding!
That's right. The year is 2006. Sweet weeping Jesus.
BV
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking
I'm engaged (for another 3 weeks!) and also tried to get a quarter, but to no avail (I bought a house in the end).
I know of a couple who did get a quarter early, but of course they are not allowed to co-habit until after the wedding!
That's right. The year is 2006. Sweet weeping Jesus.
BV
I know of a couple who did get a quarter early, but of course they are not allowed to co-habit until after the wedding!
That's right. The year is 2006. Sweet weeping Jesus.
BV
Back in the last millenium, I was graced with a MQ five days before my wedding. I suppose the problem would be defining when someone would be entitled to a house. Take it to the extreme and DHE/DE(HS), or whatever they call themselves today, would have a queue of airmen hanging around outside every Friday morning, after declaring their undying love the night before round the back of the NAAFI bop.
Does seem a little strange though. How about we get rid of quarters and pay everyone (singlies included)enough money so they can decide where they want to live?
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Never work - how many places have you worked that you would actually like to live? I can think of one and I can't afford to live there (not many can to be honest). Although this is the way we are going with the 'Superbases' as people will be in a location for a lot longer with far more opportunity for stability as a result. All fine if you want to live in Swampland, Lincolnshire, Rutland, Cartoontown, Wootten Bassett, Scotland, Scotland, or Scotland....