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Moderator.
You are a coward.
Put my reply back on here or admit that you are BIASED. I do not have to approve of homosexuality but will tolerate it.
Nothing I wrote should have been offensive to anybody who is prepared to accept that not everyone shares their view.
Why did you scrub my post?
You are a coward.
Put my reply back on here or admit that you are BIASED. I do not have to approve of homosexuality but will tolerate it.
Nothing I wrote should have been offensive to anybody who is prepared to accept that not everyone shares their view.
Why did you scrub my post?
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And while I'm at it, it seems perfectly OK to start a thread named 'Why nobody likes the RAF Police'.
I wonder how long a thread named 'Why nobody likes homosexuals' would last discussing the shabby appearance of naval personnel strolling down a public street in loose unmilitary-like order with whimsical smiles on their faces.
Gay mafia mods here indeed.
I wonder how long a thread named 'Why nobody likes homosexuals' would last discussing the shabby appearance of naval personnel strolling down a public street in loose unmilitary-like order with whimsical smiles on their faces.
Gay mafia mods here indeed.
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One of my posts has been clensed by the mods. Isnt that discrimination against straight people? I noticed Tim edited one of his post and as a result ours seem to have gone. Great..................
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...And yet he is still allowed to preach his propaganda without fear nor prejudice. Isn't that curious?
Tim, let's cut the crap here. You said ONE thing that was correct - the "one-in-ten" thing is indeed an urban myth (as is most of the crap spouted by the Kinsey institute for the last 40 years). But 20%? Show me ONE piece of objective evidence that supports this. Even gay pressure groups are starting to admit that their previous estimates are bollox. I've read that Stonewall are now giving "1 in 20" (5%) as a figure, but that even this is primarily based on "assumptions" (they don't say what these assumptions are).
It is NOT the fact that queers are in our midst that pisses us off (yes, Tim, "Queer" IS an acceptable word to use according to many in the gay "community") - it's the constant preaching, marching, shouting, banner waving, finger-wagging and "straight-bashing". Why don't you lot just accept that most people will accept you, some never will, wind your necks in and just live your lives as ordinary citizens as the rest of us do?
WHY not? Everybody has the RIGHT to their own views - who are YOU to say what 'modern society' should allow? You have no more right to dictate social norms than anybody else. Do you think that being gay somehow gives you this right?
The vast majority of people, at some point in their lives, have to suffer this, for a multitude of reasons - being somehow 'different' from those you live or work amongst, having something that makes you stand out, makes you a target. Perhaps being overweight, coming from a different area or socio-economic group, being considered "odd-looking" or "ugly", being just some examples. This is NORMAL - it is part and parcel of human nature. Why should being gay somehow give you the "right" to be insulated from the norms of human society, a "right" that none of the rest of us normal folk have?
Do us a favour, Tim, and take your preaching and your made-up statistics elsewhere. We are sick to the back teeth of it.
Tim, let's cut the crap here. You said ONE thing that was correct - the "one-in-ten" thing is indeed an urban myth (as is most of the crap spouted by the Kinsey institute for the last 40 years). But 20%? Show me ONE piece of objective evidence that supports this. Even gay pressure groups are starting to admit that their previous estimates are bollox. I've read that Stonewall are now giving "1 in 20" (5%) as a figure, but that even this is primarily based on "assumptions" (they don't say what these assumptions are).
It is NOT the fact that queers are in our midst that pisses us off (yes, Tim, "Queer" IS an acceptable word to use according to many in the gay "community") - it's the constant preaching, marching, shouting, banner waving, finger-wagging and "straight-bashing". Why don't you lot just accept that most people will accept you, some never will, wind your necks in and just live your lives as ordinary citizens as the rest of us do?
but we can't allow a modern society, and particularly our armed forces, to continue condoning the kind of attitudes that are better suited to early Carry-On films.
sniggering comments, sideways looks, whispered rumours, or worse still, abuse, maybe even violence
Do us a favour, Tim, and take your preaching and your made-up statistics elsewhere. We are sick to the back teeth of it.
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And another thing!
Who is moderating the mil forum?
All the other forums appear to show a profile of the mod for that forum.
Could it possibly be that a homosexual civvy pilot is moderating this forum and deleting anything that does not fit in with his/her agenda?
Like I said in the post that was removed, I am not homophobic because I do not fear or am threatened by homosexuals. As long as they can do their jobs, fine. Do not expect me to affirm their status as a full-on way to bring up kids because I don't believe it.
Don't expect me to tell my kids that homosexuality is 'normal', because I don't believe it is, but won't harass or suppress those who do.
Go on, delete this post and prove that the moderator is the actual oppressor.
Who is moderating the mil forum?
All the other forums appear to show a profile of the mod for that forum.
Could it possibly be that a homosexual civvy pilot is moderating this forum and deleting anything that does not fit in with his/her agenda?
Like I said in the post that was removed, I am not homophobic because I do not fear or am threatened by homosexuals. As long as they can do their jobs, fine. Do not expect me to affirm their status as a full-on way to bring up kids because I don't believe it.
Don't expect me to tell my kids that homosexuality is 'normal', because I don't believe it is, but won't harass or suppress those who do.
Go on, delete this post and prove that the moderator is the actual oppressor.
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Originally Posted by TheInquisitor
being somehow 'different' from those you live or work amongst, having something that makes you stand out, makes you a target. Perhaps being overweight, coming from a different area or socio-economic group, being considered "odd-looking" or "ugly", being just some examples. This is NORMAL - it is part and parcel of human nature. Why should being gay somehow give you the "right" to be insulated from the norms of human society, a "right" that none of the rest of us normal folk have?
Do us a favour, Tim, and take your preaching and your made-up statistics elsewhere. We are sick to the back teeth of it.
Do us a favour, Tim, and take your preaching and your made-up statistics elsewhere. We are sick to the back teeth of it.
How dare you fire back at Tim for wanting to air in a few paragraphs what countless thousands of Stonewall, etc pressure group supporters spent decades lobbying for. It is very easy for people in the normal demographics to turn their noses up at the issues of the homosexual at the moment, because it does seems like its everywhere. And do you know what? It is I'm afraid. Its living next door to your house. Its down the NAAFI selling you a can of coke. Its the navigator sitting behind you at 30,000ft. Its your new born son who just wants to be loved by his father.
So grow up for gods sake. Preaching about the rights of the straight white male? No fight was ever required in modern Britain for your civil liberties. This is our day to shine and be noticed for what we are, normal, acceptable human beings who, in accordance with this thread, might want a married quarters while serving their country. Its been your way for so long, now it is the turn of everyone.
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Ooooh hark at her..................... Did you not read the Four Bruces rules on joining up? Rules 1,3,5 and 7 in particular. I didnt write it
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By definition, you are not normal. The more hysterical you get in your behaviour to defend your sexual predilections, the further away from normal you become.
I am happy to work with people who consider buggery normal provided they don't attempt to enforce the view that this is 'OK', because I don't think it is, and the majority don't either.
I will tolerate the likes of you because I think toleration of certain behaviours between consenting adults is right.
I will not tolerate gay fascists. I will not tolerate the paedophiles in Holland who wish to reduce the age of consent to 12.
In no way am I likening homosexuals to paedophiles but you have to realize that there comes a point when the lid comes off, and you need to appreciate the tolerance you currently receive in your Safe European Home. Clash anyone?
OK. Let's watch the bloody mod kill this thread within the hour.
Knob.
I am happy to work with people who consider buggery normal provided they don't attempt to enforce the view that this is 'OK', because I don't think it is, and the majority don't either.
I will tolerate the likes of you because I think toleration of certain behaviours between consenting adults is right.
I will not tolerate gay fascists. I will not tolerate the paedophiles in Holland who wish to reduce the age of consent to 12.
In no way am I likening homosexuals to paedophiles but you have to realize that there comes a point when the lid comes off, and you need to appreciate the tolerance you currently receive in your Safe European Home. Clash anyone?
OK. Let's watch the bloody mod kill this thread within the hour.
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Originally Posted by Monty77
By definition, you are not normal. The more hysterical you get in your behaviour to defend your sexual predilections, the further away from normal you become.
Originally Posted by Monty77
I will not tolerate gay fascists.
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It's funny the number of rabid homophobes that crawl out of the woodwork when anything like this crops up.
I was going to make a joke about the identification of ‘the gay mafia' but decided it was a little too close to Hitler's jump of logic with the Jews
I'm hard done-by
Jews are different
You don't see Jews suffering like us real people
Jews aren’t hard done by
They have protectors - they get advantages
And they are clannish
And look after their own
Therefore there is a Jewish mafia
It is oppressing the volk
Jews are vermin
We must kill the vermin
I'm hard done-by, Gay couples can get quarters, I can't
Gays are not normal
PC/Nu Labour protects Gays
And they are clannish (though we want them to stick with their own sort)
And look after their own
Therefore there is a .Gay mafia
It is oppressing white Anglo-Saxon heterosexuals
Gays are vermin
If I had my way.........
Therefore Gay = paedophile? Pathetic
I used to wonder if, given the right circumstances, the UK could have produced its own Nazis
I was going to make a joke about the identification of ‘the gay mafia' but decided it was a little too close to Hitler's jump of logic with the Jews
I'm hard done-by
Jews are different
You don't see Jews suffering like us real people
Jews aren’t hard done by
They have protectors - they get advantages
And they are clannish
And look after their own
Therefore there is a Jewish mafia
It is oppressing the volk
Jews are vermin
We must kill the vermin
I'm hard done-by, Gay couples can get quarters, I can't
Gays are not normal
PC/Nu Labour protects Gays
And they are clannish (though we want them to stick with their own sort)
And look after their own
Therefore there is a .Gay mafia
It is oppressing white Anglo-Saxon heterosexuals
Gays are vermin
If I had my way.........
I will not tolerate gay fascists. I will not tolerate the paedophiles in Holland who wish to reduce the age of consent to 12.
I used to wonder if, given the right circumstances, the UK could have produced its own Nazis
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MQ application leads to queer bashing?
Wow.
Has this thread become entertaining or what?
The best entertainment for eons has been 'why we all love plods'. Unlike that thread, there appears to have been considerable 'editing' here. I don't know how much as this is my first view of this thread.
What I can see here is, there are two sides who are quite vehement and committed to their own views, and a number of others who are passive.
I have no problem with people having strong views as long as they don't feel justified in forcing their understanding of opinions/views on the rest of society. If people are allowed to do this, they tend to become extreme in their views. These people then become known as extremists. Extremists are blind to all others and their views in a civilised world. And we know where that leads.
As to MQ's, I was a more relaxed husband (you do need a Marriage Certificate for that) and father (you don't biologically get that in a same-sex partnership) when we wern't living in an open house, generally known as a Married Quarter (you wouldn't believe how many people are 'entitled' to enter what is your home). I accept these 'entitled' types wern't all 'Little Hitler's', but I still didn't invite them around, and nor did my wife, and for most of them, they most certainly wouldn't have been on our Xmas card list.
Who's entitled to a MQ?
In this day and age (yes it really is 2006) it doesn't matter if you are straight or not. If the book says 'you are entitled' and it fits your needs (legitamite and legal of course), go for it. If you want a cetain modicum of privacy, allbeit at a price, buy or rent privately. I followed my own advice, and for myself and my family, it worked.
I have no intention of getting drawn into the 'straight-v-queer/gay' aspect of this thread. As a 'straight' 19 year old, I joined a 'straight' RAF, and 18 years later I left a 'straight' RAF in 1996 as a 'straight' 37 year old man and it worked for me. The 'modern' RAF has had to open it's doors to a wider cross-section of society while enjoying a diminishing budget and excessive committments.
I enjoyed my time in 'the mob', but I have no regrets about leaving. For me, there were just too many of the wrong kind of changes on the horizon. The passage of time has proven me correct.
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Has this thread become entertaining or what?
The best entertainment for eons has been 'why we all love plods'. Unlike that thread, there appears to have been considerable 'editing' here. I don't know how much as this is my first view of this thread.
What I can see here is, there are two sides who are quite vehement and committed to their own views, and a number of others who are passive.
I have no problem with people having strong views as long as they don't feel justified in forcing their understanding of opinions/views on the rest of society. If people are allowed to do this, they tend to become extreme in their views. These people then become known as extremists. Extremists are blind to all others and their views in a civilised world. And we know where that leads.
As to MQ's, I was a more relaxed husband (you do need a Marriage Certificate for that) and father (you don't biologically get that in a same-sex partnership) when we wern't living in an open house, generally known as a Married Quarter (you wouldn't believe how many people are 'entitled' to enter what is your home). I accept these 'entitled' types wern't all 'Little Hitler's', but I still didn't invite them around, and nor did my wife, and for most of them, they most certainly wouldn't have been on our Xmas card list.
Who's entitled to a MQ?
In this day and age (yes it really is 2006) it doesn't matter if you are straight or not. If the book says 'you are entitled' and it fits your needs (legitamite and legal of course), go for it. If you want a cetain modicum of privacy, allbeit at a price, buy or rent privately. I followed my own advice, and for myself and my family, it worked.
I have no intention of getting drawn into the 'straight-v-queer/gay' aspect of this thread. As a 'straight' 19 year old, I joined a 'straight' RAF, and 18 years later I left a 'straight' RAF in 1996 as a 'straight' 37 year old man and it worked for me. The 'modern' RAF has had to open it's doors to a wider cross-section of society while enjoying a diminishing budget and excessive committments.
I enjoyed my time in 'the mob', but I have no regrets about leaving. For me, there were just too many of the wrong kind of changes on the horizon. The passage of time has proven me correct.
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This all still doesn't answer the the question:
Why is the un-named moderator of this forum still selectively erasing replies?
I personally find your desire to like it up the arse from a bloke unnatural and distasteful.
I also disagree with the Israeli reaction to Hizbollah rockets.
I disapprove of you banging in another consenting's bloke back door. But I will support your right to do it (in private). Just don't expect me to promote it. Don't expect me to tell my kids it's OK because I don't think it's OK at all.
You may like not communists, I may not like fascists. They're actually quite similar with regard to sexual tastes. I dislike aggressive homosexuals like Tatchell because they impose by 'outing' those who may have wished to remain quiet. Well, that's nice homosexuality, isn't it?
Why is the un-named moderator of this forum still selectively erasing replies?
I personally find your desire to like it up the arse from a bloke unnatural and distasteful.
I also disagree with the Israeli reaction to Hizbollah rockets.
I disapprove of you banging in another consenting's bloke back door. But I will support your right to do it (in private). Just don't expect me to promote it. Don't expect me to tell my kids it's OK because I don't think it's OK at all.
You may like not communists, I may not like fascists. They're actually quite similar with regard to sexual tastes. I dislike aggressive homosexuals like Tatchell because they impose by 'outing' those who may have wished to remain quiet. Well, that's nice homosexuality, isn't it?
Thank goodness I'm no longer a serving officer in the Royal Air Force. Married Quarter for homosexuals is a step too far. Having served for many years in Transport/Air Support Command, which entailed spending a lot time down the route, the thought of a couple of queers living in the next door married quarter and the message it was sending to my two young sons would have been very worrying, even distressing. I'm sure a high percentage of the wives would have felt the same. It would have been bad for morale, bad for pride in the service and due to an unhappy missus, bad for my marriage.
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I made it very clear in a post that the moderator chose to delete that in NO WAY DO I EQUATE HOMOSEXUALITY WITH PAEDOPHILIA.
It is totally different, and if I were homosexual or heterosexual I would be livid if people thought I considered children sex objects. For F*cks Sake.
I'm getting tired of this. Accept the fact that some (actually, most) people will not be prepared to teach their children that 'Dave and Arsewipe' are valid parents and a good guide to what they may face in the real world. Gay bars only really apply if you are gay. Most people are not gay.
The last time I had the nerve to state this fact, half the thread was wiped by an individual who preferred to remain anonymous.
If you wipe it again, it proves you are biased.
Well?
I made it very clear in a post that the moderator chose to delete that in NO WAY DO I EQUATE HOMOSEXUALITY WITH PAEDOPHILIA.
It is totally different, and if I were homosexual or heterosexual I would be livid if people thought I considered children sex objects. For F*cks Sake.
I'm getting tired of this. Accept the fact that some (actually, most) people will not be prepared to teach their children that 'Dave and Arsewipe' are valid parents and a good guide to what they may face in the real world. Gay bars only really apply if you are gay. Most people are not gay.
The last time I had the nerve to state this fact, half the thread was wiped by an individual who preferred to remain anonymous.
If you wipe it again, it proves you are biased.
Well?
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And yet he is still allowed to preach his propaganda without fear nor prejudice. Isn't that curious? Not propoganda, just a few rather necessary points, I think youll find.Tim, let's cut the crap here. But 20%? Show me ONE piece of objective evidence that supports this. You can argue this until the cows come home, and much depends on how you frame the quation. Statistics recognise that there is something like ten percent of the population who identify themselves as gay. When you then add at least another ten percent (if not more-I'm being generous here!) of people who don't "identify" but are still patently gay, or at least engage in same-sex acts, you have a figure that is probably more than twenty percent, but hey, if you want statistics, go and find them, but try not to use the ones funded by the Christian Insituite eh?!
"Queer" IS an acceptable word to use according to many in the gay "community - yes I know, you can call me/us queer, faggot, bender, **** stabber, bum bandit, butt hole surfer, pickle smoker, cock jockey... so what? who cares?
who are YOU to say what 'modern society' should allow? I'm a gay man, that's who, and I have every right to be treated the same as everybody else. That includes not having to listen to people such as yourself telling me that they "accept" or "tolerate" me. I don't crow about how I "accept" you, and I don't really care what you think of me, why should I? The point is, it is time that society (and particularly organisations like the MoD) stopped encouraging or even allowing people to talk about gay people in this way. If they tried the same tactics against black people, what would you say?
The vast majority of people, at some point in their lives, have to suffer this, for a multitude of reasons - being somehow 'different' from those you live or work amongst - But that's the point - they don't have to suffer it at all, and people don't, as these days we have some opportunities to protect our rights as citizens, and expect other members of society to treat us the same as we treat them.
"Queer" IS an acceptable word to use according to many in the gay "community - yes I know, you can call me/us queer, faggot, bender, **** stabber, bum bandit, butt hole surfer, pickle smoker, cock jockey... so what? who cares?
who are YOU to say what 'modern society' should allow? I'm a gay man, that's who, and I have every right to be treated the same as everybody else. That includes not having to listen to people such as yourself telling me that they "accept" or "tolerate" me. I don't crow about how I "accept" you, and I don't really care what you think of me, why should I? The point is, it is time that society (and particularly organisations like the MoD) stopped encouraging or even allowing people to talk about gay people in this way. If they tried the same tactics against black people, what would you say?
The vast majority of people, at some point in their lives, have to suffer this, for a multitude of reasons - being somehow 'different' from those you live or work amongst - But that's the point - they don't have to suffer it at all, and people don't, as these days we have some opportunities to protect our rights as citizens, and expect other members of society to treat us the same as we treat them.
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Originally Posted by Monty77
And another thing!
Who is moderating the mil forum?
All the other forums appear to show a profile of the mod for that forum.
Could it possibly be that a homosexual civvy pilot is moderating this forum and deleting anything that does not fit in with his/her agenda?
Like I said in the post that was removed, I am not homophobic because I do not fear or am threatened by homosexuals. As long as they can do their jobs, fine. Do not expect me to affirm their status as a full-on way to bring up kids because I don't believe it.
Don't expect me to tell my kids that homosexuality is 'normal', because I don't believe it is, but won't harass or suppress those who do.
Go on, delete this post and prove that the moderator is the actual oppressor.
Who is moderating the mil forum?
All the other forums appear to show a profile of the mod for that forum.
Could it possibly be that a homosexual civvy pilot is moderating this forum and deleting anything that does not fit in with his/her agenda?
Like I said in the post that was removed, I am not homophobic because I do not fear or am threatened by homosexuals. As long as they can do their jobs, fine. Do not expect me to affirm their status as a full-on way to bring up kids because I don't believe it.
Don't expect me to tell my kids that homosexuality is 'normal', because I don't believe it is, but won't harass or suppress those who do.
Go on, delete this post and prove that the moderator is the actual oppressor.
Oh and by the way - what exactly upsets you about the notion of gay parents bringing-up kids? Do you think they'd chain them in a dungeon and molest them? Or is homosexuality infectious? I fear you've been reading The Sun for far too long...
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DHE tossers
Just returning to the subject of who is entitled etc... I'm married with 4 kids, two of them are starting/in middle of GCSE courses in the next school year and we live in quarters in the northern region. My posting was due this autumn and I've been told "Tough **** mate, your kids are not within 3 months of exams, so we are going to kick your family out of FQ and they must relocate with you in the south" and I quote " All schools are the same... its the national cerriccerlum (spelling as pronounced by DHE operator) mate " Dont get me wrong here fellas, I dont mind commuting for 3 years and living in the mess, but that option is not available to me.. so its all hands to the pump and try to buy here before I'm moved. To be fair to PMA they've delayed the posting to help.. but why should single people (of either persuasion) get quarters anywhere when those who have already been entitled for years get shafted by a civilianised system? And if they claim they are short of quarters at my present unit, it wont wash, as Annington have sold off 30% of the area I live in in the past 2 years.
P.S And dont get me started on MODern housing solutions (joke) ,3 months without a gas supply is probably a blessing with present price hikes.
P.S And dont get me started on MODern housing solutions (joke) ,3 months without a gas supply is probably a blessing with present price hikes.
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By definition, you are not normal.
Okay, at what statistical figure does something become "normal" in your bizarre world? Homosexuality is normal by definition, as people have always been gay, even if various societies have tried to pretend that they haven't. Maybe you need a new dictionary with a better definition of "normal"?
I am happy to work with people who consider buggery..
What is this obsession with buggery? How does this automatically connect itself to any discussion about homosexuality. Let's deal with an unpleasant fact here; not all gay men engage in anal sex. Likewise, very few gay women do (as you might imagine!). Also, a huge number of straight men engage in anal sex with their femal partners. So what is your fascination for this subject? Homosexuals are people with a sexual preference for someone of the same gender - that's all it means. So maybe you could keep your wild (and slightly suspect) sexual fantasies to yourself?
I will not tolerate the paedophiles in Holland who wish to reduce the age of consent to 12.
In no way am I likening homosexuals to paedophiles
er... so why did you say it then?
I don't consider myself a stident homo, militant, or anything else like that. This is not about any "gay mafia" and I don't know why any postings have been edited/moderated. As far as I'm concerned, if someone has something to say, then by all means say it - it's nice (or at least helpful) to know how other people really feel.
But let's not lose track of where we were going with this thread. My point was (is) that the Navy is making some good progress towards eradicating this childish "Carry-On" attitude towards gay people and they're finally allowing gay and straight people to be treated equally and with equal respect. I wouldn't expect any more than that nor would I expect anything less. It's time that insitutions accepted that a person's sexual orientation is a minor part of his/her character which is nobody else's business but their own, and that they don't deserve to be treated disrepectfully because of it. It looks like the RAF is slowly following the Navy's lead (but the Army seems to still be stuck in the 'sixties) so we can only hope that before too long, the subject won't even be an issue. Until then, you can only expect more whining and bitching from the so-called gay mafia, otherwise nothing will ever change for the better. History has taught us that unless you proverbially beat people over the head with your views, they choose not to listen to them. Admittedly, this wouldn't be a good thing if the views were in some way wrong, but thankfully our society is reaching a stage where we accept that homophobia is something that needs to be buried once and for all - despite the efforts of poisonous bigots such as the Pope, etc...
Okay, at what statistical figure does something become "normal" in your bizarre world? Homosexuality is normal by definition, as people have always been gay, even if various societies have tried to pretend that they haven't. Maybe you need a new dictionary with a better definition of "normal"?
I am happy to work with people who consider buggery..
What is this obsession with buggery? How does this automatically connect itself to any discussion about homosexuality. Let's deal with an unpleasant fact here; not all gay men engage in anal sex. Likewise, very few gay women do (as you might imagine!). Also, a huge number of straight men engage in anal sex with their femal partners. So what is your fascination for this subject? Homosexuals are people with a sexual preference for someone of the same gender - that's all it means. So maybe you could keep your wild (and slightly suspect) sexual fantasies to yourself?
I will not tolerate the paedophiles in Holland who wish to reduce the age of consent to 12.
In no way am I likening homosexuals to paedophiles
er... so why did you say it then?
I don't consider myself a stident homo, militant, or anything else like that. This is not about any "gay mafia" and I don't know why any postings have been edited/moderated. As far as I'm concerned, if someone has something to say, then by all means say it - it's nice (or at least helpful) to know how other people really feel.
But let's not lose track of where we were going with this thread. My point was (is) that the Navy is making some good progress towards eradicating this childish "Carry-On" attitude towards gay people and they're finally allowing gay and straight people to be treated equally and with equal respect. I wouldn't expect any more than that nor would I expect anything less. It's time that insitutions accepted that a person's sexual orientation is a minor part of his/her character which is nobody else's business but their own, and that they don't deserve to be treated disrepectfully because of it. It looks like the RAF is slowly following the Navy's lead (but the Army seems to still be stuck in the 'sixties) so we can only hope that before too long, the subject won't even be an issue. Until then, you can only expect more whining and bitching from the so-called gay mafia, otherwise nothing will ever change for the better. History has taught us that unless you proverbially beat people over the head with your views, they choose not to listen to them. Admittedly, this wouldn't be a good thing if the views were in some way wrong, but thankfully our society is reaching a stage where we accept that homophobia is something that needs to be buried once and for all - despite the efforts of poisonous bigots such as the Pope, etc...
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Originally Posted by Tim McLelland
despite the efforts of poisonous bigots such as the Pope, etc...
Originally Posted by Monty77
Accept the fact that some (actually, most) people will not be prepared to teach their children that 'Dave and Arsewipe' are valid parents and a good guide to what they may face in the real world. Most people are not gay.
. And, alas, I am also inclined to agree with you on your point that parents won't teach their children about homosexuality. But thankfully in 2006 and beyond, homosexuality being displayed how it is, is meaning that the modern youth do not need their parents to teach them about it. Section 28 has been lifted. Youth groups talk openly about it. Organisations offer advice. The homophobic parent is left redundant. Loving and open parents embraced.I'm sure you must be losing sleep now that same sex partners who have had a civil partnership can now adopt!
I wonder if they will inflict their gay propaganda on the poor defenceless child they adopt? Or maybe they will grow up happy and wise, albeit in a homo-family. What HAS the world come to ey? Oh... equality and freedom for all. What a tragedy! 
Originally Posted by Monty77
If you wipe it again, it proves you are biased.
