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The J vs K Thread. Pacifists keep out.

Old 23rd Jan 2007, 16:25
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This is without any doubt the worst thread on PPRuNe

I wish that they had shut down this thread a long time ago. It really undermines all the good work that Lyneham has done over the years and the reputation of the crews. It unfairly makes the RAF Herc fraternity a laughing stock to the rest of the RAF and anyone else who can be arsed to read the pages of petty drivel and point scoring. Its the same old names arguing, over and over again and making everyone else look like dicks.

This year is the 40th Anniversary of the C-130 in RAF service, and everyone who has served and continues to serve on Albert should be proud of what they have achieved, and the way they have turned Albert into a legendary aircraft. It may be an apt time to ditch this thread, move on and look to the future.

There is a rough ride ahead with the High Op-Tempo, Lack of funding, Lack of kit, Wind down of the K fleet and most importantly the closure of Lyneham. Its time to be united, and make the most of what you have.
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Old 23rd Jan 2007, 18:28
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100% behind SALAD on this one. With so much going on at the minute and a busy year ahead, maybe the usual suspects should take a look at the bigger picture. Let's not forget about an anniversary looming in a few days time.

Guys and girls, you've had your fun, you've wound-up many and you may have made a point, but.......Lets put it to bed.

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Old 23rd Jan 2007, 20:05
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A-D,

Just checked back after having no internet connection for the last couple of days.

The banter re dets etc I can take (for f#cks sake I started the thread). But to use the tragedy of 2 years ago (God, has it gone that quick?) to try and win a point is low.

Really, really low.

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Old 9th Feb 2007, 11:46
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As you originally started this thread, then I believe you have the power to delete it. Please feel free to exercise your right as I concur that it has passed its Best Before date.

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Old 9th Feb 2007, 20:19
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Civvy bed wetter
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Old 9th Feb 2007, 21:06
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I agree with Flip, running away from your own creation is cowardly, you spawned it so you delete it! I speak as an ex LXX Air Eng would you do us all a favour and please don't make me beg!
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Old 9th Feb 2007, 21:58
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I'm thinking back to around '80-'82 when I was at a certain Lincolnshire station that caused a major diversion in a Roman road - oh if only we'd had a forum like this to have a go at the Waddo boys, the OCU, 27 or 617. As it was, we had to save it for the bowling alley. Nice to see nothing much has changed

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Old 9th Feb 2007, 22:23
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BEagle knows what I mean (don't you BEagsy?)
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Old 9th Feb 2007, 22:48
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Just that kicking each other's heads in doesn't really do any good when we're supposed to be on the same side but we've always done it anyway - plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose (or was that apres moi le deluge)
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Old 10th Feb 2007, 08:30
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Agreed; human nature is unappealing (if a little predictable). I for one would prefer that 'handbags at dawn' was done in the privacy of the Os' ans Sgts' Messes rather than in public. Far too often this thread has degenerated into purile, if not infantile, insult-hurling doing nothing other than tarnishing the good name of the largely-unsung Hercules' crews (both varieties) - with whom I am proud to have been associated.

So, without further ado, Tim please do the honours.

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Old 10th Feb 2007, 19:52
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Thumbs up

I think some of the unquantifiable airmanship, balance and common sense that a nav brings to the flight deck would be as applicable now to the J deck as it was when I went through Thorney Island OCU on the Klassic in 1971. Without a pole the testosterone doesn't pulse so dangerously hard--think about it. We all want to win and the K has done so so well for many years with its Klassic Krew Komposition.
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Old 11th Feb 2007, 09:01
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I think some of the unquantifiable airmanship, balance and common sense that a nav brings to the flight deck would be as applicable now to the J deck as it was when I went through Thorney Island OCU on the Klassic in 1971. Without a pole the testosterone doesn't pulse so dangerously hard--think about it. We all want to win and the K has done so so well for many years with its Klassic Krew Komposition.


Make sure you are not around for compulsory drugs testing. I think you may have been smoking some of the funny stuff.
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Old 11th Feb 2007, 09:51
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"Without a pole the testosterone doesn't pulse so dangerously hard--think about it."

The "testosterone" you so jealously refer to is actually "ability" which I would suggest you are rather lacking in hence your being streamed Nav
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Old 11th Feb 2007, 10:38
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As an ex-TS loadie, this thread echoes all the frustrations I experienced during my time on Ks.

The first 2 questions I always wanted to ask, as I climbed the few steps onto the FD, were as follows:

To the 'guy' sitting directly ahead, "You are?" and on turning left to the 'guy' sitting in the centre seat, "What do you do?"

Come on guys, be real. Js (3 crew) are, de facto, the present, and the future.
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Old 11th Feb 2007, 12:10
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As an ex TS loadie, if you really had to ask that, you obviously didn't know what the [email protected]@K was going on. Maybe when you stick your head on the flight deck you should look at the Link16 and the rest of the toys and see if you could work it.

As far as I was concerned, the Air Eng was the biggest safety cog on the flight deck. I haven't flown the J, but a two man flight deck works well because it's a modern aircraft and therefore designed with that in mind. Nonetheless, it doesn't have half the gear it should have.

I don't know a competent, professional loadmaster who would have to ask those same questions. Does that tell a story...
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Old 11th Feb 2007, 18:41
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Oh my god.............

Where do you guys find the interest/energy to keep this guff going? My title is a give away, so obviously I am biased, but.............
We all add to our own aircraft ability (well, most of us, Lima Echo..?).
Yep, the J is the future, only an idiot denies that.
Question of specific roles versus A400 introduction, well surely thats going to be financially driven versus K longevity.
I have managed to resist the temptation to reply to much of the stuff previously displayed on here, but enough red death and here I go!
 
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Well done Baldrick Eng....

Someone who can see further than a radio log or fuel graph!!!

Best of Luck...NAJB
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Old 11th Feb 2007, 21:55
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O COCK,

...you forget to mention the other thing that a Nav brings to the flight deck...the smell of pi$$.

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Old 11th Feb 2007, 22:23
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I rest my case!
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Old 12th Feb 2007, 13:25
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OK. Can't find a magic 'delete thread' button - and if I could I wouldn't use it 'cos there's a lot of good banter on here too. But, if you stop replying, it stops coming back to the top....

([email protected] Couldn't resist another post.....)
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