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Controversial Tim 3rd Mar 2006 23:08

The J vs K Thread. Pacifists keep out.
 
Like the Title says. There's too much vitriol between the mighty fleets on various threads around PPrune. Instead of spreading it around, keep it here. Keep it public info only. And let the pr*ts who think it's in-fighting keep out.

The 'J' isn't cleared to be useful.

The 'K' is too old to make use of it's clearances.


Let banter commence. :E

Safety_Helmut 3rd Mar 2006 23:10

But surely the A400M will solve all of our woes ? :E

On_The_Top_Bunk 3rd Mar 2006 23:31

http://www.asmh37.dsl.pipex.com/deargod.jpg

16 blades 3rd Mar 2006 23:36

Here we go again.

Oh, well, in for a penny......

ALL J CHIMPS ARE [email protected]!!!!!!!

:) :E

16B

On_The_Top_Bunk 3rd Mar 2006 23:42


Originally Posted by 16 blades
Here we go again.
Oh, well, in for a penny......
ALL J CHIMPS ARE [email protected]!!!!!!!
:) :E
16B


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demobcurious 3rd Mar 2006 23:54

OTTB hoping that his much used cartoons will stop the highlighting of lack of K flyability (my word - TM pending) is a waste of bandwidth methinks.

LunchMonitor 4th Mar 2006 13:11

Just heard the Lyneham Gate Guardian was to be removed for use as the latest MR4A testbed and was due to be replaced by xv199, unfortunately Marshalls are unable to guarantee this aircraft being ready on time and this task was re-allocated to the J fleet.
Due to operational overstretch this cannot be covered it has been sent out to contract and the space will be filled by the wooden A400m from farnborough Airshow, pending trials by QinetiQ.

propulike 4th Mar 2006 21:21

From the RAF News (03 Mar edition). http://www.rafnews.co.uk/default.asp?channel_id=117

Lyneham-based 70 Squadron will be the lead squadron for the RAF detachment in Kandahar.
Surely putting the 'K' into Afghanistan in Summer instead of flinging them at sea-level Iraq doesn't make sense to anybody - does it? The thing'll be practically MOS even before they load it up with the coal it needs to burn.

At least they're finally managing to get the old bird back on a det though, there's one consolation. Or at least - they're planning to get the old bird back on a det. It would be awfully embarrassing if the aircraft fell over (again) at the last minute after that RAF News centre page spread... :O

16 blades 4th Mar 2006 22:19

It never came OFF the det. Politics ensures that a song-and-dance accompanies any J det - whereas we just quietly get on with the work.

Agree that the J would be better suited to AFG, although the K has no real perf probs, even in summer months.

16B

On_The_Top_Bunk 4th Mar 2006 23:38


Originally Posted by 16 blades
It never came OFF the det. Politics ensures that a song-and-dance accompanies any J det - whereas we just quietly get on with the work.

You really do come out with some pearls of wisdom :yuk:

Please enlighten us with a song-and-dance example.

propulike 4th Mar 2006 23:39


Politics ensures that a song-and-dance accompanies any J det - whereas we just quietly get on with the work.
Have you SEEN the RAF News :8 :8 :8

Quietly getting on with it my ar$e!!!! More along the lines of "Look at us, we've not been scrapped yet!"

16 blades 4th Mar 2006 23:43


Have you SEEN the RAF News
Yes, and it's the FIRST TIME in a LONG TIME that the K has featured prominently. It's usually "OOH - look at what our shiny new toy can do!"

....conveniently omitting what it CAN'T do.

16B

On_The_Top_Bunk 4th Mar 2006 23:48


Originally Posted by propulike
Have you SEEN the RAF News :8 :8 :8
Quietly getting on with it my ar$e!!!! More along the lines of "Look at us, we've not been scrapped yet!"

Hardly a song and dance. Deserved and welcome recognition is more apt.
A song and dance would be a C17 or a Tristar going somewhere slightly dodgy and making the centre spread as is the norm.

Guy Willesley 4th Mar 2006 23:50


it's the FIRST TIME in a LONG TIME that the K has featured prominently
It's the first time in a long time that one of the main Sqns has been anywhere operational ;)

Not that you've got there yet.....

On_The_Top_Bunk 4th Mar 2006 23:53


Originally Posted by Guy Willesley
It's the first time in a long time that one of the main Sqns has been anywhere operational ;)

I heard the K's were going to come back between mid June and Sept so that everyone could get their summer leave in.
Too much too quickly could be a shock to the system.

16 blades 4th Mar 2006 23:54


It's the first time in a long time that one of the main Sqns has been anywhere operational
Beg to differ, old chap. Most of what I have done in the last 12 months has been operational.


A song and dance would be a C17 or a Tristar going somewhere slightly dodgy and making the centre spread as is the norm.
Agree! Let's unite and slag off the shiny [email protected] instead.

Edited 'cause I can't spell 'shiny' when pissed

16B

On_The_Top_Bunk 4th Mar 2006 23:56


Originally Posted by 16 blades
Beg to differ, old chap. Most of what I have done in the last 12 months has been operational.
16B

Only to maintain operational currency. Spot of MCT to keep you tip top.

16 blades 4th Mar 2006 23:57

At least we get to actually FLY for MCT...

...instead of 'pretending' in the Sim.

16B

Guy Willesley 5th Mar 2006 00:03

Regretably, very little of what I've done in the last 12 months has been operational. Plenty of opportunity though should I ever decide to escape from the sims, and when I do visit the tents I rarely see my old type on the dispersal....

It is a waste of aircraft though imho to keep people current just so they can fly MCT and keep current - to fly MCT.

On_The_Top_Bunk 5th Mar 2006 00:05


Originally Posted by 16 blades
At least we get to actually FLY for MCT...
...instead of 'pretending' in the Sim.
16B

Wow, take off from Lyneham and land back again. Now that is class.

That will get the troops and freight into theatre..............NOT

When the J flies it does it for good reason.


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