MT RANT

[TWOL8]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator

Is he actually chosing which orders with which to comply?

More likely he is prioritising. Prioritising goes on all the time and at its basic level is 'not complying with orders'.

Pontius,
prioritising is fine, it's basically choosing the order in which you carry out tasks. To not do something because you think its beneath you is another matter entirely.

[Tourist]

Thanks, you too.

[OverTq]

My thanks to all my readers. you have lightened (a bit) a relatlvely quiet day. Don't forget to wash your cars this weekend (or get your wife to do it for you if you are an orficer!).

[Pontius Navigator]

Funny that everyone has assumed the car driver would be male. What of the other sex? Their clothing is likely to be even less appropriate for car washing than someone who has just been dunking.

[SirPeterHardingsLovechild]

Originally Posted by OverTq

I've been out of the RAF for 10 years. Talking to an ageing Sqn Ldr today, was a bit taken aback by the apparent loss of status of serving officers. He used an MT car for a journey to the dunker at Yeovilton, leaving home at 4am. Returned to base mid afternoon, refilled with fuel (why?) and took the car back to MT. An hour later he received a call from MT asking why he hadn't washed the car before returning it. Is it me?

You didn't mention whether the ageing Sqn Ldr went back to MT and washed the car or not.

[The Helpful Stacker]

Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator

Funny that everyone has assumed the car driver would be male. What of the other sex? Their clothing is likely to be even less appropriate for car washing than someone who has just been dunking.

The Royal Air Force is an equal opportunities employer.

[Pontius Navigator]

But the aging sqn ldr will not have the same opportunity to ladder his tights nor does he get the same uniform allowance. EO?

[Kitbag]

Paraphrase- 'All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others'- Eric Blair

[Giant Swede]

Cut the drivel, stop moaning and get on with your job. I do not give a monkeys what rank you are, we all know MT is mostly rubbish and SHQ is painful in the extreme. Set an example. But back to my first sentence, it is about time the "get on with your job" was performed to a higher standard by both MT and admin.

[hobie]

Always remember my Grandfather telling me he never drove a car in his life .... if he needed one he just had someone pick up a car and drive him to wherever he had to go ....

mind you he started off in the RFC before service in the RAF so maybe things have changed since his time ....

[Washington_Irving]

Seven fg pages have been devoted to this crap? Jesus wept.

With all the other b0llocks that people have to withstand in service life today is this really the most worthwhile subject to discuss? Put the handbags away and get a grip folks- the pongos are laughing at you:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/index.p...t=31892#561794

jEEZUS s***.. That has put my whole life in perspective...and I thought I had it tough bieng a disabled pensioner... I really feel for this guy.

[FCWhippingBoy]

Hahaha! I don't know what they're laughing at with threads entitled ...

"Is George Galloway a total C**T?", "Bum Boy Barrymoore -off the hook again", "Posh burds: better in bed?" and my personal favourite, "wheres the wierdest place you've ever had a shiite?"

OK, anyone else noticed the intelligence level over there?!

[Tourist]

Yes
So what
yes
CHOM

[Washington_Irving]

I've got to admit that in general the banter is funnier over there in the Naafi Bar than the mil forum of Pprune (it's more like Jetblast after 12 pints of wifebeater). Over in the grown-up/professional threads your won't read about an officer throwing his dolls out of his pram and bleating on about having to spend two minutes waving a fg pressure washer around the outside of Vauxhall Astra. Or on the offchance that you do, it'll be their troops laughing about what a ct he is and how the tom with a chronic case of NSU takes the time to rim his coffee mug every day. There's a quick lesson in leadership for you right there.

IHMO, any officer without stars or a flag who thinks that washing a car is beneath them should go and give themselves a good talking to, taking time to consider why the RAF has a reputation lower than whalesh1t among the other services because right now, girls, I'm ashamed to be associated with you.

I say again- get a grip.

[Tourist]

"any officer without stars or a flag who thinks that washing a car is beneath them should go and give themselves a good talking to"


Erm..........So you do agree that some people are too good/special/important to be troubled with cleaning their own car?

You just disagree with the placing of the threshold at Sqn Leader/Midshipman.

Interesting.

[jobsworth]

I can’t believe that I am replying to this thread but….

Just because a person who holds a commission, it does not mean that he/she has a better education than that of a person who does not hold a commission. I recently met a young chap who had joined the police with a degree and master’s degree in engineering. He did do well at school and by all accounts is a very smart and able person who would probably be looked down upon by the sharp flying end of a military arm.

If the rule is that you clean the vehicle after use, then you clean the vehicle after use. If you are unable to do such a task then I would worry if you were to be in command of an aircraft. If this order is deemed to be incorrect, do something about it, use your initiative and fix the problem, not just baulk at it being not right for you.

It’s a shame to see this attitude is still prevalent and only tarnishes the fond memories I have of being in the service. I would like to point out that the people likely to achieve this side of the fence are the smart ambitious individuals that are capable of getting stuck in and completing a task regardless of its nature.

The NAFFI Bar is a good laugh, well worth a look.

[timex]

As I've already said the obvious solution to this (and probably the safer one considering how knackering I'm led to believe the dunker course is) is to get a driver to do the driving, that really is what they are paid to do after all.

Its 2 hours getting wet.........how difficult is that? Most of them could do with a wash anyway!!

[L1A2 discharged]

Thread drift ... dunker

At a fairly senior age I had to do the dunker and stass thing to do the job at a very secret base near Stonehenge.

Being a non/minimal-swimmer I was bricking it. The diving chaps at the dunker gave me a nice red hat and an extra diver to make sure that I came out of the skip at the required time. All went well, thanks to them I successfully (sp?) completed and was then self loading supernumary on a variety of flying machines, even got a log book ...

But when we returned to the secret base we washed the car .....

[Tourist]

I'm sure men of your advancing years shouldn't be bending down to wash cars Timex.

[timex]

I'm sure men of your advancing years shouldn't be bending down to wash cars Timex.

Which is why you take a young officer with you........