Imminent strike at RAF Shawbury?
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how much is the government paying FBH for each QHI verses how much are FBH paying their QHI's - Approx 50% is the figure!!!
Rule of thumb in industry is that an employee costs 3 times salary - FBH are doing it for 2 times, so they must be making plenty of money somewhere else on the contract.
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It would seem that the ground crew start thier strikes early in the new year and the aircrew will start a couple of weeks later (all to do with BALPA sending out ballot papers later than expected). Sounds like it could be a fun new year in shropshire!
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Rule of thumb in industry is that an employee costs 3 times salary
However, I do admit that military personnel were costly once ........ but that was when we had a decent secondary health service, a primary health service that catered for families too, properly managed married quarters, messing that was first class...... etc, etc,
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Again you are missing the facts "airborne-artist" - FBH do NOT pay medical insurance, life insurance, or loss of licence etc and as for the pension it comes to the grant total of 1% so not quiet NORMAL employers which is the point the boys at Shawbury are trying to make - if FBH did treat them as respected employees the feeling might be reciprocated!!! FACTS speak for themselves
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swerve,
well made points.
I understand that the strike ballot papers are arriving at members addresses now, with a closing date of 11 Jan 06. Though by then, the groundcrew will already have had their first one-day strike. Sorry state of affairs altogether. Wonder how their airships will handle it? Perhaps we will see brass hats pushing cabs out and blunties operating the bowsers? Naaah! Why keep a dog and bark yourself?
well made points.
I understand that the strike ballot papers are arriving at members addresses now, with a closing date of 11 Jan 06. Though by then, the groundcrew will already have had their first one-day strike. Sorry state of affairs altogether. Wonder how their airships will handle it? Perhaps we will see brass hats pushing cabs out and blunties operating the bowsers? Naaah! Why keep a dog and bark yourself?
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Re: Imminent strike at RAF Shawbury?
Nice intelligent response from "vecvechookattack"! must be on the FBH management with such obvious comments, that's how they think.
Any way to the real issue - engineers on strike from tommorrow morning for one day initially, still very weak offers from the management to try and settle this issue. Pilots have been ballotted now results next week (11th) so maybe soon they will be joining the engineers to try and get the management to approach this in a realistic way and pay sensible wages to these people - they have had it in their favour for too long by all accounts - interesting times ahead, if only Alan Blake would wake up and smell the coffee!!
Any way to the real issue - engineers on strike from tommorrow morning for one day initially, still very weak offers from the management to try and settle this issue. Pilots have been ballotted now results next week (11th) so maybe soon they will be joining the engineers to try and get the management to approach this in a realistic way and pay sensible wages to these people - they have had it in their favour for too long by all accounts - interesting times ahead, if only Alan Blake would wake up and smell the coffee!!
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Re: Imminent strike at RAF Shawbury?
Vecvechookattack, you fail to see one point, these people work for a civilian company, just like any other civilian company. Be it McDonalds, Burger King or FBH, they are not serving military personnel. If they want to strike, there are rules they must follow, but it is their RIGHT to be able to do so. They don't have to walk out the door. Democracy is fantastic, you are free to do things. Do not blame these people for taking jobs that the military WANTED to be civilian. If BALPA did not think that there was a legitimate case, I doubt that they would be involved. I learned a lot in my first few months out of the RAF, including a lot of civvie companies do not look after their people. I raised a valid grievance with an employer who denied a conversation had took place and if I didn't like it then I could 'poke off'. I get everything in writing now, guess what??? Recently they told us we would be getting a huge pay rise, even putting it in writing. They still ignored that and said 'we have changed our minds, so tough!!'.
There is zero loyalty out in the real world, why should these shawbury people work for below market rate??
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...re/4583206.stm
http://www.shropshirestar.com/show_a....php?aID=40973
There is zero loyalty out in the real world, why should these shawbury people work for below market rate??
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...re/4583206.stm
http://www.shropshirestar.com/show_a....php?aID=40973
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As I've already mentioned, one hopes that the lessons from this industrial action will be hoisted on board by those pushing forward the Mercenary Flying Training Scam....
Intruiged to know where all the MFTS QFIs will come from, with airline recruiting gathering pace in the way it is already doing...
Intruiged to know where all the MFTS QFIs will come from, with airline recruiting gathering pace in the way it is already doing...
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why should these shawbury people work for below market rate??
Democracy is fantastic, you are free to do things.
They don't have to walk out the door
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Re: Imminent strike at RAF Shawbury?
Seems the replacement groundcrew coped quite well in the absence of the AMICUS members today - only one blade strike on one hangar door whilst moving aircraft with unaccustomed crews! Watch the skies for the ground incident signal - but don't hold your breath, will you?
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Abbacab, I don't understand what you are trying to say. The original quote was that if they didn't like it then they could leave. I said that they shouldn't have to leave, they have the right to strike like anyone else. Why should they have to quit to get more favourable terms from FBH??