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I believe that the plans are still subject to ministerial approval. Until that happens everything is still a rumour (even if it comes from an AVM!) Furthermore, I don't suspect that the future of the UAS system will be at the top of Dr Reid's in-tray so we may have to wait some time yet.
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Latest rumour that has been confirmed by the Barber that's just around the corner from the RAF Club......
1. All Grob Tutors to be melted down to make one good one.
2. Due to the poor development of the area and the fact that the local international airport has not 'taken off', Cambletown International is to be re-named to Macrihanish/Glasgow International and will house the one remaining 'Super Grob' for the sole purpose of showing those students with the means to actually get to Macrihanish/Glasgow International, what an Elementary Flying Experience Facilitator looks like.
3. It was decreed by a chap who was in for 'something for the weekend' that following the RAF's tradition - those affected will be the last to know!
1. All Grob Tutors to be melted down to make one good one.
2. Due to the poor development of the area and the fact that the local international airport has not 'taken off', Cambletown International is to be re-named to Macrihanish/Glasgow International and will house the one remaining 'Super Grob' for the sole purpose of showing those students with the means to actually get to Macrihanish/Glasgow International, what an Elementary Flying Experience Facilitator looks like.
3. It was decreed by a chap who was in for 'something for the weekend' that following the RAF's tradition - those affected will be the last to know!
I hear a rumour that UAS students might be limited to 5 hours air experience flying only during their entire time at University.......
Surely that must be a bolleaux rumour?
Surely that must be a bolleaux rumour?
The rumour that I have heard is that the UAS will change its role from teaching students to fly to giving students Air Experience.
One of the reasons behind this is that the RAF, in these times of shrinkage, has no problem attracting people who want to be pilots but has a problem attracting people for the other branches. Traditionally the UAS has concentrated on pilots while other branches have had the odd trip but were usually just social members.
To help attract students to other branches they will be offered Air Experience flights to encourage recruitment. The number of hours has not been promulgated.
Students have changed since my days on NUAS where flying came first and Uni a poor fourth (after girls and rugby). Nowadays students put Uni first, girls/boys second and flying third so continuity is a problem. Hence the idea of going to a super UAS/EFTS after uni has finished.
I look forward to giving AEF to students as I believe there will be a syllabus for them to follow.
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One of the reasons behind this is that the RAF, in these times of shrinkage, has no problem attracting people who want to be pilots but has a problem attracting people for the other branches. Traditionally the UAS has concentrated on pilots while other branches have had the odd trip but were usually just social members.
To help attract students to other branches they will be offered Air Experience flights to encourage recruitment. The number of hours has not been promulgated.
Students have changed since my days on NUAS where flying came first and Uni a poor fourth (after girls and rugby). Nowadays students put Uni first, girls/boys second and flying third so continuity is a problem. Hence the idea of going to a super UAS/EFTS after uni has finished.
I look forward to giving AEF to students as I believe there will be a syllabus for them to follow.
HF
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As one of the grease monkeys who despised jumped up uni kids playing pilots whilst the rest of us played for real,
Well, I think that UAS organisations are a brilliant way to recruit guys n gals from different specialisations into our ever decreasing Air Force.
1. We get officers who want to fly.
2. We get engineering officers who wish to engineer.
3. We get grads who don't want commissions coming in who make d@mned good airmen /women.
Quote, one young holding officer. "Some of my friends from IOT wish they were lineys on the flight line, not like us pushing paperwork around"
Getting rid of UAS's is like building a third rate supermarket. Lots of shopping material but buying a quality brand becomes a distant memory
Exleckie
Well, I think that UAS organisations are a brilliant way to recruit guys n gals from different specialisations into our ever decreasing Air Force.
1. We get officers who want to fly.
2. We get engineering officers who wish to engineer.
3. We get grads who don't want commissions coming in who make d@mned good airmen /women.
Quote, one young holding officer. "Some of my friends from IOT wish they were lineys on the flight line, not like us pushing paperwork around"
Getting rid of UAS's is like building a third rate supermarket. Lots of shopping material but buying a quality brand becomes a distant memory
Exleckie
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With pilot numbers set to reduce over the next 15 years it is inevitable that the emphasis of the UAS' should adjust away from the overwhelming focus on pilots. We also need to attract high calibre doctors, engineers, WSOs and OSB officers etc. An introduction for students to the military with a bias towards the air environment will be, in my view, continue to be of benefit.
In the past, the attitude on the various UAS' towards ground branches, and indeed the navs as well, varied greatly in attitude. I was fortunate to be on a UAS that took an interest in the ground branches (thanks to Ray and KB et al), even if the boss at the time was a bit of a tool.
My limited (and indeed on my part particularly inept) introduction to flying the Bulldog was, however, very useful to my understanding of aircrew workload when I went through FC trg. Additionally, some 19 years after I joined, the UWAS mafia serves me well to this day when dealing with various fast jet mates! Also, when Neat closed for example, the OC Ops Wg, Stn Cdr and the IntO were all ex-UWAS - perhaps that's why they closed the place!
Anyone remember what all the categories on the 'gap board' were? Very non-PC but most amusing.
In the past, the attitude on the various UAS' towards ground branches, and indeed the navs as well, varied greatly in attitude. I was fortunate to be on a UAS that took an interest in the ground branches (thanks to Ray and KB et al), even if the boss at the time was a bit of a tool.
My limited (and indeed on my part particularly inept) introduction to flying the Bulldog was, however, very useful to my understanding of aircrew workload when I went through FC trg. Additionally, some 19 years after I joined, the UWAS mafia serves me well to this day when dealing with various fast jet mates! Also, when Neat closed for example, the OC Ops Wg, Stn Cdr and the IntO were all ex-UWAS - perhaps that's why they closed the place!
Anyone remember what all the categories on the 'gap board' were? Very non-PC but most amusing.
